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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Build Challenge! Mar 20^th, 2021 at 11:01pm	Print Post
	I've got challenge for you aspiring and established builders out there. Figure out a build that will best incorporate Valorius, the Flame Blade into it. First, notice it uses your WIS mod as the To-Hit and Damage mod. Second, notice it is made of Flame and bypasses "etherealness." Third, the build can be a melee, or a caster. I don't care which. Fourth, the build's race must be either an Aasimar or a Tiefling. Build away!

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Mattyo Dragon Raider Offline Rum & Coke. DO IT! Posts: 296 Joined: May 21^st, 2020	Re: Build Challenge! Reply #1 - Mar 21^st, 2021 at 8:15pm	Print Post
	Didn’t Strimtom already post some flame blade ranger? I just assumed it was these.


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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Build Challenge! Reply #2 - Mar 21^st, 2021 at 10:32pm	Print Post
	Mattyo wrote on Mar 21^st, 2021 at 8:15pm: Didn’t Strimtom already post some flame blade ranger? I just assumed it was these. I've no idea. I really don't pay much attention to him or his builds.

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Build Challenge! Reply #3 - Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 12:30pm	Print Post
	Wis-based Tempest is pretty straightforward. You'd be mathematically better off with long sword or battle axes, but Killer Instinct from Falconry, anything is a Wis weapon, so I often use e.g. scimitars (vulkoor's edge) for easy DR breaking. What you don't want to do is go all in on wis to-hit and damage and only have that one weapon to swing.

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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Build Challenge! Reply #4 - Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 1:01pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 12:30pm: What you don't want to do is go all in on wis to-hit and damage and only have that one weapon to swing. But that was kind of my point. I wanted to build around the new raid scimitar. Sure, it would likely be a flavor build, but that's what I am looking for. The challenge is to make it as best you can relying on wielding Valorius.

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Build Challenge! Reply #5 - Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 1:19pm	Print Post
	Scimitars don't have much of a niche. They generally have to compete with every other one-hander and are mostly found wanting. I guess they (scimitars) are one of the best options for a dex-based tempest, but that would defeat your purpose. But it's that or choose to use this inferior weapon on an otherwise identical wis-based build.

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Charon Ex Member	Re: Build Challenge! Reply #6 - Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 1:26pm	Print Post
	For some reason I really want to find a fire elemental druid / something build that can do some SB fighting with that and maybe high healing.


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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Build Challenge! Reply #7 - Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 1:27pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 1:19pm: Scimitars don't have much of a niche. They generally have to compete with every other one-hander and are mostly found wanting. I guess they (scimitars) are one of the best options for a dex-based tempest, but that would defeat your purpose. But it's that or choose to use this inferior weapon on an otherwise identical wis-based build. What about a Fire Elemental-shape Druid? How about a Fire Savant Eldritch Knight? There are multiple ways to synergize with a "firey" build, I think, and I'm trying to wrap my head around several of them. SWF with Valorius has got to be an option, maybe with the Druid or the Sorc. There seem to be so many possibilities, including, the boring Tempest.

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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Build Challenge! Reply #8 - Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 1:31pm	Print Post
	Quote: For some reason I really want to find a fire elemental druid / something build that can do some SB fighting with that and maybe high healing. There you go. That's certainly an option.

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Build Challenge! Reply #9 - Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 2:02pm	Print Post
	Taking all of the build options that have "fire" in the name is not synergy.

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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Build Challenge! Reply #10 - Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 2:40pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 2:02pm: Taking all of the build options that have "fire" in the name is not synergy. So nothing here to droid's claim here?: [QUOTE=droid327;6415235]Its not really niche...there are lots of builds that use WIS as their combat stat. Most do it through Falconry, but this would let you free up some AP there. Plus, dont miss that the damage type is Fire. This would let you bypass the DR on any monster with physical DR. Also gets 5% bonus damage from Tiefling racial fire debuff. [/quote]

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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Build Challenge! Reply #11 - Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 2:41pm	Print Post
	I'm referring to the last sentence about the 5% bonus damage?

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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: Build Challenge! Reply #12 - Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 3:37pm	Print Post
	You will need a way to break dr on fire immune. Devils, elementals, etc.


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Charon Ex Member	Re: Build Challenge! Reply #13 - Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 4:06pm	Print Post
	Shadehater wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 3:37pm: You will need a way to break dr on fire immune. Devils, elementals, etc. How long does improved scorch for tieflieng last? Could you keep the immunity removal up full time?


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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Build Challenge! Reply #14 - Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 4:06pm	Print Post
	Shadehater wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 3:37pm: You will need a way to break dr on fire immune. Devils, elementals, etc. Tieflings can do that. See their Tier IV Improved Scortch power in their racial tree. Sorcs can also do it while their Elemental Apotheosis form is active.

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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: Build Challenge! Reply #15 - Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 5:35pm	Print Post
	Yes I just was saying so. So that you kept it in mind with your build. Tiefling Sorc with eldritch knight with falconry might be best though healing is a pita until cocoon/renewal. Your dcs and somewhat your hps will suck.


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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Build Challenge! Reply #16 - Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 6:01pm	Print Post
	Shadehater wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 5:35pm: Yes I just was saying so. So that you kept it in mind with your build. Tiefling Sorc with eldritch knight with falconry might be best though healing is a pita until cocoon/renewal. Your dcs and somewhat your hps will suck. Falconry not needed. Valorius uses WIS to Hit and Damage.

	Do not try the patience of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger. We are dreamers, shapers, singers, and makers. We study the mysteries of laser and circuit, crystal and scanner, holographic demons and invocation of equations. These are the tools we employ, and we know many things. The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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Charon Ex Member	Re: Build Challenge! Reply #17 - Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 6:15pm	Print Post
	Technomage wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 6:01pm: Falconry not needed. Valorius uses WIS to Hit and Damage. Not unless you can start at level 29. You'll at least want falconry before, and possibly after if you find that you can't keep immunities stripped off.


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cheap beer for days Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 12 Joined: Jan 26^th, 2021	Re: Build Challenge! Reply #18 - Mar 22^nd, 2021 at 11:46pm	Print Post
	Dumb idea, maybe the old 12/6/2 split? Fvs/ftr/monk. Feats would be a problem. Swf line, monk stances, precision, caster stuff if able. Stuck in pajamas though so mrr would suck. Aps would be spent in racial, monk for fire debuff, fighter for strike with no thought, and rest fvs. Or however you felt like spending them. The main issue would be deity, neither tiefling or aasimar can take undying court. Oh well, good luck, at I tried poorly.


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