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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8855 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Nov 28^th, 2021 at 5:20pm	Print Post
	I've always wanted to build a character around the Chimera's Fang just because its such an interesting weapon, and now that there's a legendary version of it I'm even more interested. My current line of thinking is 7 Wizard/12 Fighter/1 Barbarian Human Human - free bonus feet 7 wizard - death aura/NEB + paleshroud for self-healing, also lets me save a feat by using Master's Touch to grant tower-shield proficiency 12 fighter - melee-oriented sword&board build + fighter bonus feats helps get around feat slots lost to dragon marks 1 Barbarin - for fast movement, realistically nothing else. All 3 dragonmarks of the sentinal And not really sure what else. This is just a general idea. Cue the usual round of trolling before any actual conversation can start.

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Head-Meat 57%Misunderstood53%Moron Offline Subtle. I know. Posts: 9090 Joined: Nov 11^th, 2016	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #1 - Nov 28^th, 2021 at 7:09pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Nov 28^th, 2021 at 5:20pm: I've always wanted to build a character around the Chimera's Fang just because its such an interesting weapon, and now that there's a legendary version of it I'm even more interested. My current line of thinking is 7 Wizard/12 Fighter/1 Barbarian Human Human - free bonus feet 7 wizard - death aura/NEB + paleshroud for self-healing, also lets me save a feat by using Master's Touch to grant tower-shield proficiency 12 fighter - melee-oriented sword&board build + fighter bonus feats helps get around feat slots lost to dragon marks 1 Barbarin - for fast movement, realistically nothing else. All 3 dragonmarks of the sentinal And not really sure what else. This is just a general idea. Cue the usual round of trolling before any actual conversation can start. I’ll only say that I DID build a tank around the original. Cool idea. Wasn’t awesome back then. But it did ok.

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8855 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #2 - Nov 28^th, 2021 at 7:58pm	Print Post
	Eh its not meant to be awesome. With the sheer amount of grinding this game requires its tough to have more than 1 top-level character(unless you play like a second job). My main is a fire-nuker sorc. I just like like building up a stable of alts that all play differently for when I'm in the mood to be something else. It doesn't have to be the best.

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Linker Dragon Raider Offline It's all the same Posts: 212 Joined: Jan 29^th, 2019	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #3 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 1:34pm	Print Post
	Damage / crit profile too low for any meaningful DPS, palemaster isn't the best way to selfheal. You probably want a tank, too. At that point just go paladin


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8855 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #4 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 2:45pm	Print Post
	Linker wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 1:34pm: Damage / crit profile too low for any meaningful DPS, palemaster isn't the best way to selfheal. Whats your preferred/recommended self-heals for melee? I like PM simply because you activate the auras and then your health is constantly being topped off Linker wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 1:34pm: You probably want a tank, too. I would probably make a pretty lousy tank, and there's not a ton of demand for it. It seems like there's no shortage of triple completionists tanks running around for the 3 quests where tanking is relevant. Also I mostly play solo and that's definitely the last place you need a tank. I'm aware the DPS from the Fang is not going to be particularly meaningful, I'm just looking for something really interesting for a casual/fun character. Linker wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 1:34pm: At that point just go paladin I already have a paladin. He's ok.

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Linker Dragon Raider Offline It's all the same Posts: 212 Joined: Jan 29^th, 2019	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #5 - Dec 2^nd, 2021 at 8:37am	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 2:45pm: Whats your preferred/recommended self-heals for melee? I like PM simply because you activate the auras and then your health is constantly being topped off I would probably make a pretty lousy tank, and there's not a ton of demand for it. It seems like there's no shortage of triple completionists tanks running around for the 3 quests where tanking is relevant. Also I mostly play solo and that's definitely the last place you need a tank. I'm aware the DPS from the Fang is not going to be particularly meaningful, I'm just looking for something really interesting for a casual/fun character. I already have a paladin. He's ok. Aasimar lay, Bladeforged reconstruct, paladins or druids. Takes some CC and PRR, but these scale all the way to endgame r10s non raid solos. These builds aren't perfect but vids are good enough for you to get the flow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfFvjL0dzgo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcSDJRc79Sg DPS Paladin KT selfhealing optimized solo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1j7wNvqfK8
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8855 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #6 - Dec 2^nd, 2021 at 2:24pm	Print Post
	I do love BF recon SLA - I used free hearts to build a pure BF fighter around it just for shits and gigs. My sorc meanwhile makes heavy use of Aasimar racial lay on hands.

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SpaceGoat Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 597 Joined: Oct 14^th, 2015	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #7 - Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 8:06am	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Nov 28^th, 2021 at 5:20pm: I've always wanted to build a character around the Chimera's Fang just because its such an interesting weapon, and now that there's a legendary version of it I'm even more interested. My current line of thinking is 7 Wizard/12 Fighter/1 Barbarian Human Human - free bonus feet 7 wizard - death aura/NEB + paleshroud for self-healing, also lets me save a feat by using Master's Touch to grant tower-shield proficiency 12 fighter - melee-oriented sword&board build + fighter bonus feats helps get around feat slots lost to dragon marks 1 Barbarin - for fast movement, realistically nothing else. All 3 dragonmarks of the sentinal And not really sure what else. This is just a general idea. Cue the usual round of trolling before any actual conversation can start. The class and level split don't seem to offer much synergy together.


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SpaceGoat Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 597 Joined: Oct 14^th, 2015	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #8 - Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 8:07am	Print Post
	I know, not the most helpful reply, but its morning and I'm not fully awake yet.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8855 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #9 - Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 3:11pm	Print Post
	SpaceGoat wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 8:06am: The class and level split don't seem to offer much synergy together. SpaceGoat wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 8:07am: I know, not the most helpful reply, but its morning and I'm not fully awake yet. I agree on both points. The reason for the aforementioned level-split is a balance between providing self-heals and still having enough feats to be a decent melee. Pure paladin isn't a great choice because the class is already starved for feats. Has to be an eberron race so no BFs. A Aasimar could work for the race(racial LoH) + splash destinies for self-heals - that works quite well as my squishy sorc can attest. So that returns us to the question of the class-split. Whatever is chosen needs to not be over-reliant on action points since a fair amount will have to go into Aasimar racial tree for LoH - and nom, this character will not have the +10 AP from all racial PLs This is probably stupid, but there's the fun 3 paladin/5 wizard/12 fighter split I've played before. That works best on Bladeforged(reconstruct SLA) but feels like it could go well here. And Knights Transformation in EK looks damn cool.

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Linker Dragon Raider Offline It's all the same Posts: 212 Joined: Jan 29^th, 2019	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #10 - Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 3:31pm	Print Post
	Still not it bro. EK is fun, but trash. Useless in terms of DPS. If you're looking for creative heals outside of paladin or druid you can go aasimar - fighter or monk are good examples, even tho monks are meh since U51.If you really want to splurge on heals you can go melee FVS, with that you can multiclass. Otherwise you're just giving up on anything efficient, and if that's the case you can really run whatever. Go bladeforged barbarian/bard swashbuckler with max crit enhancements for 15-20/x7 and get draconic rage casting for reconstruct for all I care. Wait, that's actually decent


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8855 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #11 - Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 7:41pm	Print Post
	Linker wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 3:31pm: Still not it bro. EK is fun, but trash. Useless in terms of DPS. If you're looking for creative heals outside of paladin or druid you can go aasimar - fighter or monk are good examples, even tho monks are meh since U51.If you really want to splurge on heals you can go melee FVS, with that you can multiclass. You seem to be missing the point that the original goal is to use the leg. Chimera's Fang, which requires dragonmarks to providebenefits. You can't be a dragonmarked bladeforged(or anything iconic). Also this is just a casual theorycraft, I'm throwing out random ideas. Obviously some of them(most, really all if I'm being honest) are going to be trash. But art is about knowing which mistakes to keep. That said, hmmm. An Aasimar 14 monk/6 fighter could be centered while wielding the leg Chimera's fang, would have decent self-heals, and at least be interesting. I might screw around with that idea some. I actually really miss having a monk in my stable, in point of fact. Linker wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 3:31pm: Otherwise you're just giving up on anything efficient, and if that's the case you can really run whatever. Go bladeforged barbarian/bard swashbuckler with max crit enhancements for 15-20/x7 and get draconic rage casting for reconstruct for all I care. Wait, that's actually decent That sounds wild. Expensive to create(need +# hearts to get out of Paladin, then alignments swap to get out of Lawful Good). Also, just to be clear, in case its not: I have a lvl 30 pure sorc fire nuker with all PLs for my main. When I make threads like this its not because I'm looking for a top-tier R10 build to TR into. I'm just looking for some stupid fun to play with on an alt. I certainly can't enjoy the game the way the developers intended me to.

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Linker Dragon Raider Offline It's all the same Posts: 212 Joined: Jan 29^th, 2019	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #12 - Dec 4^th, 2021 at 3:37am	Print Post
	If you trade me the sorc account I’ll give you an optimized chimera build with self healing, damage and no TRs. Deal or no deal?


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8855 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #13 - Dec 4^th, 2021 at 3:03pm	Print Post
	Linker wrote on Dec 4^th, 2021 at 3:37am: If you trade me the sorc account I’ll give you an optimized chimera build with self healing, damage and no TRs. Deal or no deal? Lol no deal But if you've got a bridge for sale in or around Brooklyn, I'm interested.

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #14 - Dec 4^th, 2021 at 3:16pm	Print Post
	Every character can get a healing aura now with 11 ED points in EA.

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Linker Dragon Raider Offline It's all the same Posts: 212 Joined: Jan 29^th, 2019	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #15 - Dec 5^th, 2021 at 11:10am	Print Post
	5FS I love you but that's a bad take 32 base * 3 healamp * 3 spellpower base /2 base reaper content = 144 / 6 seconds, nowhere close to good enough, and you lose your mantle. If you want to consistently selfheal you need better - it's mehtier support at best.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8855 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #16 - Dec 5^th, 2021 at 1:01pm	Print Post
	Linker wrote on Dec 5^th, 2021 at 11:10am: 5FS I love you but that's a bad take 32 base * 3 healamp * 3 spellpower base /2 base reaper content = 144 / 6 seconds, nowhere close to good enough, and you lose your mantle. If you want to consistently selfheal you need better - it's mehtier support at best. Agreed. The Mass Cure Moderate Wounds is a better take since it works off-mantle and in reaper has the bonus of healing your part members. On my main I use that + Rejuvenation Cocoon + Aasimar racist Lay on Hands and can mostly keep myself alive(I also keep a large stack of greater spirit cakes bound to a hotkey because I do not give a single fuck).

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #17 - Dec 9^th, 2021 at 1:00pm	Print Post
	Linker wrote on Dec 5^th, 2021 at 11:10am: 5FS I love you but that's a bad take 32 base * 3 healamp * 3 spellpower base /2 base reaper content = 144 / 6 seconds, nowhere close to good enough, and you lose your mantle. If you want to consistently selfheal you need better - it's mehtier support at best. I'm not saying it's necessarily a good idea for every character, I was just saying that it is an option. Also the formula is apparently not as described, because for me it ticks at about 1k (non-reaper) on a character formerly setup to use cocoon and about 2.6k (non-reaper) on an actual aura healer melee. And it heals everyone around you and there is value in that even if you are swapping mantles to do it.

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Linker Dragon Raider Offline It's all the same Posts: 212 Joined: Jan 29^th, 2019	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #18 - Dec 9^th, 2021 at 1:18pm	Print Post
	You said everyone - if you're a caster it has more value, obviously a sorc can stack up some spellpower Heals are too slow in some situations tho. 1 tick / 6 secs is meh


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Legendary Chimera's Fang Theorycraft Reply #19 - Dec 9^th, 2021 at 1:32pm	Print Post
	Linker wrote on Dec 9^th, 2021 at 1:18pm: You said everyone - if you're a caster it has more value, obviously a sorc can stack up some spellpower Heals are too slow in some situations tho. 1 tick / 6 secs is meh Dude said he likes PM just for the aura: noamineo wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 2:45pm: I like PM simply because you activate the auras and then your health is constantly being topped off I said anyone can get an aura, not just PM: Quote: Every character can get a healing aura now with 11 ED points in EA.

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