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Where do people go for builds now?
Jan 12th, 2022 at 4:17pm
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There were a couple Builders in the DDO Forums I liked, but even they don't post now.
I have always admitted here that I just play the game, but suck at building.  I do not know what meshes together and left to my own I have screwed up more than once, just by taking the wrong alignment.
Since the new ED changes, I have just been "winging it" and my toons are completion, so they can hold up to my bad playing and not min-maxing.  But I truly would like some guidance on what EDs to mix.
DC casting? 
DPS casting?
Ranged? 
I just rolled out of melee because I NEED MELD!!  Also can read that as- the people I run with don't heal!

Anything you would like to share or PM would be appreciated.  Even if it is to another site, or a trusted MB poster.
  
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Reply #1 - Jan 12th, 2022 at 5:21pm
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I think the builders are all figuring it out. Or the best of them rage-quit over U52. Give it some time. They'll be back.
  

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Reply #2 - Jan 12th, 2022 at 6:18pm
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Discord is probably the joint. But, it's more guild/group-specific.
  


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Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group.
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Re: Where do people go for builds now?
Reply #3 - Jan 13th, 2022 at 10:28am
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noamineo wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 5:21pm:
I think the builders are all figuring it out.


No.
  

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Reply #4 - Jan 14th, 2022 at 12:47pm
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It takes time to reevaluate everything from scratch. And my time has never been more valuable.
  

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Reply #5 - Jan 14th, 2022 at 2:33pm
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I mean... I know like 6 really good builders I can scrounge crap from on 6+ diff builds if/when I wanted to. I used one for the build I'm running. I ain't got time to think about that stuff on my own. 

All my sources would be on discord.

That being said, I wouldn't mind 5FS getting on top of it and posting updated/new builds again. I usually see one or two that appeal to me!   

  


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Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group.
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Re: Where do people go for builds now?
Reply #6 - Jan 15th, 2022 at 11:18am
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I had an interesting build idea last night. Starting to brainstorm today.

Does anyone have a list of all the sources of sneak attack damage?
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Reply #7 - Jan 15th, 2022 at 4:19pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 15th, 2022 at 11:18am:
I had an interesting build idea last night. Starting to brainstorm today.

Does anyone have a list of all the sources of sneak attack damage?




I don't have a list. But, I ran into a lesser-remembered source recently:

Thunderforge armor. 2D6 Profane bonus to sneak on the upgraded version.

I know I've seen my sneak dice at or over 32d6. But, I didn't necessarily min-max.


Starting the napkin:

10d6 Rogue Levels
3d6 Halfling
4d6 Assassin Tree
4d6 Assassin Capstone

[10d6 Associate Ability]
[5d6 diversion monk ability--supposedly bugged and doesn't work?]
[6d6 Throat Rip Wolf ability]

4d6 Ninja spy Tree
5d6 Ninja Spy Capstone
3d6 DWS Tree
3d6 DWS Capstone
6d6 Nature Warrior Cores (1d6 per)
5d6 [up to] wraith form from PM tree
2d6 Shadarkai

3d6 Artifact dice from gear set(s)

3d6 Imp Sneak feat

2d6 Perfect Natural fighting in wolf form

6d6 Eth. Scion

3d6 Shadow Dancer Cores
1d6 "Technician" in SD Destiny
3d6 Dance in the Dark SD Destiny
3d6 SD Epic Moment



FILIS:

1d6 Sucker punch 3pc
1d6 Treachery 3pc
2d6 Shadowstrike 5pc




Bonus Sneak Dmg
Deception 11 (17dmg)
Ins. Deception (+8 dmg)
Rogue PL +3dmg
Active Rogue PL: ~+15 sneak dmg
Shadow strike fili +2dmg
WIld Hunter fili +2 dmg



Ok. Those are the "easy-to-find" sources. There might be more that is hidden in weird item descriptions.

  


Strake wrote on Mar 31st, 2020 at 1:51pm:
Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group.
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Re: Where do people go for builds now?
Reply #8 - Jan 15th, 2022 at 4:54pm
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Version 1: Simple Sneaker (pure ass rogue)

3  halfling
10 rogue levels
8 assassin tree
3 artifact from gear
3 feat
6 Scion
7 SD destiny
4 filigree sets
2 armor

=46d6 total sneak  (can actually add 1-2d6 if you dip into Mechanic and use ranged. But it would be less optimal than twf probably)

Version 2: Shaggy Sneaker:  (9rog 8 druid 3mnk)

3  halfling
5 rogue lvls
3 artifact from gear
3 feat
6 Scion
7 SD destiny
4 filigree sets
2 armor
4 Ass. tree
3 nature protector tree
3 ninja spy tree
2 perfect natural feat
2 winter wolf form
=47d6

Version 3: Spooky Sneaker  (5 wiz; 3mnk; 12 rogue)

3  halfling
6 rogue lvls
3 artifact from gear
3 feat
6 Scion
7 SD destiny
4 filigree sets
2 armor
4 Ass. tree
3 ninja spy tree
5 Pale master

=46d6

Version 4: Shooty Sneaker (12 rng; 3mnk; 5 rog)

3  halfling
3 rogue lvls
3 artifact from gear
3 feat
6 Scion
7 SD destiny
4 filigree sets
2 armor
4 Ass. tree
3 ninja spy tree
4 DWS tree
1-2 Mech Tree

=up to 44d6 sneak
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Strake wrote on Mar 31st, 2020 at 1:51pm:
Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group.
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Re: Where do people go for builds now?
Reply #9 - Jan 15th, 2022 at 4:55pm
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There might be a better combo I missed, and I MIGHT have missed ENH point limitations. But, I think that's close.
  


Strake wrote on Mar 31st, 2020 at 1:51pm:
Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group.
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Re: Where do people go for builds now?
Reply #10 - Jan 15th, 2022 at 7:28pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 2:33pm:
I mean... I know like 6 really good builders I can scrounge crap from on 6+ diff builds if/when I wanted to. I used one for the build I'm running. I ain't got time to think about that stuff on my own. 

All my sources would be on discord.

That being said, I wouldn't mind 5FS getting on top of it and posting updated/new builds again. I usually see one or two that appeal to me!   




Yup! always good stuff from 5FS.

It's a shame Forest and Davenot don't post builds anymore those guys were really brilliant!   Wink
  

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Reply #11 - Jan 18th, 2022 at 12:24pm
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On my Lock, for epic levelling, i'm finding fey lights from shiradi good cc and has a seperate timer from colour spray.

Also the extra damage procs seem to contribute a fair ammount.

2nd destiny is primal avatar, mainly for 'reborn in fire' which seems the only decent heal i have from epic destinies. I'm still undecided on a third destiny
  
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Reply #12 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 9:46am
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Many quit
I'm among them
I think 5FS is the most OG one that's still here
But he's slow so give him time and some candy
  
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Reply #13 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 7:17pm
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Where is Unknown Builder when you need them?
  
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Reply #14 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 7:37pm
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Shinyshoes wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 7:17pm:
Where is Unknown Builder when you need them?


Thats unknown
  

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Dragonborn wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 7:37pm:
Thats unknown



I know I don't want to know.
  


Strake wrote on Mar 31st, 2020 at 1:51pm:
Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group.
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Reply #16 - Jan 23rd, 2022 at 1:06am
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Head-Meat wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 8:30pm:
I know I don't want to know.



I know right?
  

noamineo wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 12:04pm:
Sadly only scammers are "selling" boxes now. But if you do want to get scammed, I know a guy.


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Reply #17 - Jan 25th, 2022 at 4:19pm
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Ask people on discord directly. Carpone published some interesting stuff on the mobos recently.
  

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Snu Snu wrote on Jan 25th, 2022 at 4:19pm:
Carpone...



is a boss.
  


Strake wrote on Mar 31st, 2020 at 1:51pm:
Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group.
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Reply #19 - Jan 25th, 2022 at 7:33pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Jan 25th, 2022 at 6:20pm:
is a boss.


And now I'll have that song stuck in my head all day. Thanks a lot.
  

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Reply #20 - Jan 26th, 2022 at 11:26am
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Snu Snu wrote on Jan 25th, 2022 at 4:19pm:
Ask people on discord directly. Carpone published some interesting stuff on the mobos recently.


His gearsets are works of art; they're about the most thorough builds I've ever seen.
  

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Gunga wrote on Jan 26th, 2022 at 11:26am:
His gearsets are works of art; they're about the most thorough builds I've ever seen.




He gives partial credit to Rubbins for gear on one of his recent works. Just sayin'.

Actually, one of the reasons he's such a boss is his little motto:

"None of us are as smart as all of us." What a stud.
  


Strake wrote on Mar 31st, 2020 at 1:51pm:
Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group.
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Head-Meat wrote on Jan 26th, 2022 at 5:24pm:
He gives partial credit to Rubbins for gear on one of his recent works. Just sayin'.

Link plz.
  

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Head-Meat wrote on Jan 26th, 2022 at 5:24pm:
He gives partial credit to Rubbins for gear on one of his recent works. Just sayin'.

Actually, one of the reasons he's such a boss is his little motto:

"None of us are as smart as all of us." What a stud. 

You should thank the guy for doing all that work to give the community a guide for ranged.

I handed him the gear set for the shuri builds. He improved them greatly. We took bits and pieces of what people were doing and added those in, too. The gear is used across every shuri split we have listed.

The 14/6 tier 5 dws was my split. As is the pure 20 tier 5 HW, capstone Ninja Spy shuri ap. The multiclass repeater build split is also mine. We learned of Dark Imbue scaling not as intended from Tilo, and I just incorporated that into the builds as the epic strike.

The fatesinger AP is my recent development trough testing it on lama. Fatesinger wins out in a raid setting where it's buffing a group of other dps using Turn the Tide. The amount of damage gained beats staying in shiradi. Though shiradi is better for solo dps because Fatesinger uses Cut the Strings every minute.

Pure 20 is the highest dps atm due to most sneak dice for Imbue and having highest firing rate when bursting.

When they fix imbue, then the 14/6s become best overall dps. Carpone added a 1 rogue tweak for Nimble Fingers +1 sneak dice, and a sneak die from assassin ap. His split also includes tier 5 HW for max red named damage due to marking any target as a favored enemy.   

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Reply #24 - Jan 26th, 2022 at 6:53pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Jan 26th, 2022 at 6:21pm:
You should thank the guy for doing all that work to give the community a guide for ranged.

I handed him the gear set for the shuri builds. He improved them greatly. We took bits and pieces of what people were doing and added those in, too. The gear is used across every shuri split we have listed.

The 14/6 tier 5 dws was my split. As is the pure 20 tier 5 HW, capstone Ninja Spy shuri ap. The multiclass repeater build split is also mine. We learned of Dark Imbue scaling not as intended from Tilo, and I just incorporated that into the builds as the epic strike.

The fatesinger AP is my recent development trough testing it on lama. Fatesinger wins out in a raid setting where it's buffing a group of other dps using Turn the Tide. The amount of damage gained beats staying in shiradi. Though shiradi is better for solo dps because Fatesinger uses Cut the Strings every minute.

Pure 20 is the highest dps atm due to most sneak dice for Imbue and having highest firing rate when bursting.

When they fix imbue, then the 14/6s become best overall dps. Carpone added a 1 rogue tweak for Nimble Fingers +1 sneak dice, and a sneak die from assassin ap. His split also includes tier 5 HW for max red named damage due to marking any target as a favored enemy.   



He gives you credit all the time, talks about reviewing numbers and gear with you.
  

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