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Head-Meat 57%Misunderstood53%Moron Offline Subtle. I know. Posts: 9410 Joined: Nov 11^th, 2016	Re: Class Archetypes and changes to Completionist Reply #25 - Aug 11^th, 2022 at 9:13pm	Print Post
	contessor wrote on Aug 11^th, 2022 at 8:20pm: stick build, The main melee stick builds I've run use sticks that look like mauls or falchions. For a while I ran a stick build with a stick that had string from one end to the other and launched arrows.
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	Strake wrote on Mar 31^st, 2020 at 1:51pm: Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group. Gunga wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 2:27am: Bitcoin. lul --Who is luling in March 2025? Proud FORCCer
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9183 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Class Archetypes and changes to Completionist Reply #26 - Aug 11^th, 2022 at 10:04pm	Print Post
	Head-Meat wrote on Aug 11^th, 2022 at 9:13pm: The main melee stick builds I've run use sticks that look like mauls or falchions. For a while I ran a stick build with a stick that had string from one end to the other and launched arrows.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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liljiggy Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 314 Joined: Apr 29^th, 2022	Re: Class Archetypes and changes to Completionist Reply #27 - Aug 12^th, 2022 at 4:47am	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Aug 11^th, 2022 at 10:04pm: https://i.imgflip.com/p1ij6.jpg Maybe he's just trying to have a "conversation."


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higgildypiggildy Stormreaver Piker Online I just mock the world Posts: 664 Joined: Dec 8^th, 2011	Re: Class Archetypes and changes to Completionist Reply #28 - Aug 12^th, 2022 at 5:03am	Print Post
	The quests are way way too long. The mobs are horribly overstatted - they wanted to make "challenging" quests as players were complaining everything was too easy. II strongly disagree with this sentiment, a level 7 quest should be balanced and statted as a level 7 quest, not a level 15 quest.

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Binkey Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 113 Joined: Aug 23^rd, 2021	Re: Class Archetypes and changes to Completionist Reply #29 - Aug 12^th, 2022 at 6:55am	Print Post
	I avoided TOEE for years due to bad experience with getting squished in 2 secs at the end of part 2 after taking two hours to get there. I decided last week I wanted an elemental bloom and read somewhere that the third completion you'd be likely to find it in end rewards - this isn't true btw, just the sentient trash weapons only. I used the wiki and got the runs down to under 30 mins for the whole thing, part two especially you only need to explore one node, it makes it a 10-12 min quest. Boss was no trouble with a spell absorb ioun stone, but maybe I got lucky.


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DnD Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 155 Joined: Dec 3^rd, 2014	Re: Class Archetypes and changes to Completionist Reply #30 - Aug 12^th, 2022 at 8:37am	Print Post
	The idea of Archetypes is good, but more past lives is not, specially since they will probably (certainly) introduce legendary past lives at some point. People are not obliged to do them, but you know how DDO works...So we are looking at dozens of more PL, all stacking with each other.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9183 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Class Archetypes and changes to Completionist Reply #31 - Aug 12^th, 2022 at 2:06pm	Print Post
	Binkey wrote on Aug 12^th, 2022 at 6:55am: I avoided TOEE for years due to bad experience with getting squished in 2 secs at the end of part 2 after taking two hours to get there. This is the main reason they're breaking it up. A lot of people aren't running it because its too fucking long and if you die near the end or can't commit the time to complete it, it sucks.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Class Archetypes and changes to Completionist Reply #32 - Aug 12^th, 2022 at 3:21pm	Print Post
	ToEE came out before reaper was a thing. But they still wanted it to be a challenge for the (then) endgame crowd. So this EE was arbitrarily much harder than a typical EE. Now you add reaper scaling on top of that and it's a real meatgrinder. Like the room with 20 water elementals that each spam polar ray every .5 seconds that can oneshot most characters on R10. So now that reaper is the default difficulty nobody runs it anymore because it's harder than it should be, and the loot is obsolete, and you don't get legendary scaling on the RXP. Oh, and it takes too long even if you know the paths.

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ManyCookies Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 360 Joined: Nov 16^th, 2018	Re: Class Archetypes and changes to Completionist Reply #33 - Aug 12^th, 2022 at 8:29pm	Print Post
	Maybe they will revamp slave lords after TOEE. Its also stupidly hard, very nasty without a trapper and has some of the longest dungeons in the game.


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Head-Meat 57%Misunderstood53%Moron Offline Subtle. I know. Posts: 9410 Joined: Nov 11^th, 2016	Re: Class Archetypes and changes to Completionist Reply #34 - Aug 12^th, 2022 at 10:22pm	Print Post
	ManyCookies wrote on Aug 12^th, 2022 at 8:29pm: Maybe they will revamp slave lords after TOEE. Its also stupidly hard, very nasty without a trapper and has some of the longest dungeons in the game. I'll agree it's long... Traps? Meh. Hard? With the exception of the end fight in part-3, it doesn't seem bad to me.

	Strake wrote on Mar 31^st, 2020 at 1:51pm: Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group. Gunga wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 2:27am: Bitcoin. lul --Who is luling in March 2025? Proud FORCCer
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9183 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Class Archetypes and changes to Completionist Reply #35 - Aug 13^th, 2022 at 2:57pm	Print Post
	Head-Meat wrote on Aug 12^th, 2022 at 10:22pm: I'll agree it's long... Traps? Meh. Hard? With the exception of the end fight in part-3, it doesn't seem bad to me. I actually kind of like having one or two ultra-long quests in the game, especially one like Slave Lords where one dungeon connects directly to the next. I prefer shorter quests but every so often I enjoy the odyssey.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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iGouger Ex Member	Re: Class Archetypes and changes to Completionist Reply #36 - Aug 14^th, 2022 at 12:07am	Print Post
	IMO Slavers is another one of those packs which is mostly fine, but needs a few easy fixes: 1. Rebalance the monsters. Slavers is by far and away more difficult than any quest in the level 8 range. Even more difficult than most level 13 quests. This should not be the case if SSG wants a consistent game (which they pobably don't) 2. Buff the experience. One of the reasons nobody runs it is because the exp is shit. Long quests are fine and people still do them, provided the exp is worth it, i.e. Crucible or The Pit. Aside from that, the quests are fun in theory, with varied challenges and decent monster diversity. The loot is still good. Just needs those two easy fixes. Same with a lot of other packs, really


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ManyCookies Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 360 Joined: Nov 16^th, 2018	Re: Class Archetypes and changes to Completionist Reply #37 - Aug 14^th, 2022 at 9:13am	Print Post
	Head-Meat wrote on Aug 12^th, 2022 at 10:22pm: I'll agree it's long... Traps? Meh. Hard? With the exception of the end fight in part-3, it doesn't seem bad to me. Heroic slave lords at least is full of traps that can easily one shot parties without a trapper, mobs are also way tougher than most other quests at that level range. The skeleton archers for example are way higher CR than they should be and have a LOT of health.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9183 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Class Archetypes and changes to Completionist Reply #38 - Aug 14^th, 2022 at 1:30pm	Print Post
	ManyCookies wrote on Aug 14^th, 2022 at 9:13am: Heroic slave lords at least is full of traps that can easily one shot parties without a trapper, mobs are also way tougher than most other quests at that level range. The skeleton archers for example are way higher CR than they should be and have a LOT of health. I was wondering wtf was up with those archers. Even on epic R1 they seem to take way more hits than they should.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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