This is what i'm thinking of for my main.  Mainly going to be duoing with a cleric as we level, so I splashed the 2 lv's of rogue for the DD and UMD.

Only thing I'm really not sure on is improved trip v stunning blow.  I figured since i was wasting a feat on CE, might as well take trip.

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Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(18 Monk / 2 Rogue)
Hit Points: 288
Spell Points: 0

BAB: 14/14/19/24
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 18
Will: 16

              Starting      Ending     Feat/Enhancement
Abilities    Base Stats   Base Stats    Modified Stats
(34 Point)    (Level 1)    (Level 20)      (Level 20)
Strength           14             21                21
Dexterity          15             18                18
Constitution       14             16                17
Intelligence       14             16                16
Wisdom             14             17                20
Charisma           10             12                12

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11

              Starting      Ending    Feat/Enhancement
             Base Skills  Base Skills  Modified Skills
Skills       (Level 1)    (Level 20)      (Level 20)
Balance            6              8                9
Bluff              0              1                2
Concentration      4              26               29
Diplomacy          0              1                2
Disable Device     6              26               27
Haggle             4              5                10
Heal               2              5                6
Hide               2              4                5
Intimidate         0              1                2
Jump               6              16               17
Listen             2              5                6
Move Silently      2              4                5
Open Lock          6              8                9
Perform            n/a            n/a              n/a
Repair             2              3                4
Search             6              26               27
Spot               6              19               20
Swim               6              9                10
Tumble             6              8                9
Use Magic Device   4              24               28

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting

Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist

Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Combat Expertise
Feat: (Selected) Improved Trip

Level 4 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light

Level 5 (Monk)

Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Sneak of Shadows

Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack

Level 8 (Monk)

Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

Level 10 (Monk)

Level 11 (Monk)

Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons

Level 13 (Monk)

Level 14 (Monk)

Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device

Level 16 (Monk)

Level 17 (Monk)

Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting

Level 19 (Monk)

Level 20 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Acid Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Rogue Cold Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Rogue Electric Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Rogue Sonic Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey I
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey II
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey III
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey IV
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery III
Enhancement: Shintao Monk I
Enhancement: Shintao Monk II
Enhancement: Shintao Monk III
Enhancement: Void Strike I
Enhancement: Void Strike II
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Grandmaster of Storms
Enhancement: Master of Thunder
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom III
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I

Ya noticed that, just cleaned up a good portion by hand.  Wish I would of thought of the copy and paste =P

Yeah dont know enough about Monks to comment on the build too much but if you can make a GS +6 cha skills item with Head of Good fortune and seven fingered glove or Cartouche you could prolly swap SF: UMD for something else(If there anything more usfull you could use). Your human or rogue skills boost could make up for it and provide more bonus when you need it.

Aranticus wrote on Oct 28^th, 2010 at 2:24am:

Seriously Aranticus, is that the only problem you saw with this build?

HOLY MOTHERFUCKING SHIT!!

Someone please, for all that is fucking sacred, tell me it's a joke and I missed it.  There is not fucking way he could be serious!

Antir wrote on Oct 28^th, 2010 at 4:22pm:


I read Woody's comment as "I know jack shit about Monks, so I'm not going to comment on the viability, but here is one specific way you can improve it"

I figure it's like me watching a football game.  I know that the 50 yard line is in the middle and I know that the Cowboys suck even when they win games and that's enough football information for my skull, but I can still tell when someone does something really stupid in a game.

Quote:

That would be a good start

woody wrote on Oct 28^th, 2010 at 7:39pm:

Unfortunately, there was a lot of failure in his build that had nothing to do with how monks are built.

Well, I finally finished crying.

First of all, I hope you live through a fire Antir, and GFY for being so helpfull all the time. 

What little advice that was been posted so far, thank you.

CE is one of a few requirements for the monk Shinto Pre, non of them are all that appealing to choose from. 

Cleave, Combat Expertise, Die Hard, Discipline, Luck of Heroes, Precision, Resilience, Self Sufficient.

As to 2 levels of rogue, lv 19 of monk didn't seem all that great, a shadowwalk clickie, 2 more hp and void4 for alot of AP.  2nd lv of rogue got me 5 more skill points  I could use to top off.  I could easily go 1 lv Fighter and get the xtra hp.

Improved Trip works well at low levels, and if it becomes worthless I can always LR and take something else.

Anyways, I'm glad I could add a little smug happiness to some of your lives, and I'm still looking for input on how I can make this build better.

Not seeing an improvement in the build.

I would have been more helpful if there werent so many things wrong with the build in the first place.

Either go with one of the Turbine paths or look for a Aranticus gimplate for a better build.

Dythan, before level 20, multiclassing a build whose overwhelming primary class was monk make sense.  Now that they have come out with level 20, that is no longer the case.  The 10DR/epic and serenity capstone are just too powerful to pass up.

It's different if you're a deep multiclass.  But if you're just splashing a level or two, it's just not worth it.

edit: and before folks ask, yes, Creakin has been LR'd.

If you are dead set on playing a monk and want a duo that can do a little bit of everything here is my suggestion:

You: WF monk lvl 20
Your buddy: 18/2 WF Wizzy/rogue

You both get evasion plus your buddy can CC, Heal, has spell DPS, and get traps and locks.

Heres a great idea.  How about you level the worthless think to 20.  Get all the gear you can for him in 2 1/2 months.  Then, and only then... go to the PVP arena.  Take advantage of everyone laughing at the retarded build idea, and stock up on PvP kills.

After the first couple times of that, people will be ready.  So you may as well TR him into something beneficial and get a name change while your at it.