Soul wrote on Jan 30^th, 2011 at 3:08pm:


Yeah this would have been my style of reply to my complaining as well. The 'majority of quests' in a way isnt applicable - Bo and I arnt talking about shroud we are talking about adq1s, chains, multiple fast wizkings etc. Unless its peak time getting the right group togeather is a nightmare.

Edit: how do i multiquote here? would be alot easier.

Nick_robinsonchia wrote on Jan 30^th, 2011 at 3:20pm:


Let me just start this off by saying I probably don't possess the same level of skill that you do. I play on an entirely different server than you do and I haven't been playing for nearly as long however maybe it's not entirely the newbs fault for this style of play? A lot of it has to do with the vets whom seem to be incapable of teaching the "newbs" how to play the game. From what I've noticed whenever I run into the top end servers there seems to be very little discussion in party chat, they seem to be stand-offish, don't notice you when you perform to the peak of your abilities (why should they? Everything that's happening is going smooth whenever they're running a group) and almost expect you not to play very well, but don't you think that this sort of behavior is self actualizing?

I guess what I'm trying to say is that perhaps you shouldn't ask yourself what are other servers doing to deal with the shit players that are on the server, but rather what can I do to make the players on my server better.

And to answer your other question I don't think you can multi-quote on this forum.

Come back to Sarlona Nick. I need someone here who might actually out DPS me bitch.

Soul wrote on Jan 30^th, 2011 at 4:06pm:

Lol'd. I really need to craft some Min2s or something. BTW get on vent bitch!

Well, as much as I tried avoiding it in the past- I've been starting to pug a couple raids here and there as I progress through my TR's as a way to find some substance out there. Theres lots of good players who understand the game mechanics who never got into the click and remain largely unknown. The problem is, you gotta go through a lotta shit to find the better players- and that can be irritating.

Milton wrote on Jan 30^th, 2011 at 3:58pm:


I pretty much do the same thing -> see PUG, join.  There are a few I'll avoid just because of bad earlier experiences (xxDrizztxx, Fatherkline), but for the most part I'm not picky.  And I agree that most PUGs will complete.  Obviously, some will be smoother than others, but I don't think it's as bad as Strakeln says.  Maybe he attracts bad PUGs?

Come back to Khyber Nick! 

Seriously though, PuGs are the devil now more than ever. It truely sucks now that I'm unguilded as well =P

Schmoe wrote on Jan 30^th, 2011 at 5:31pm:


Shit, which time?

The game has taken a huge step back as far as quality of players.  I use to be the shittiest player on argo, now I dont even break the top 50!

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Schmoe wrote on Jan 30^th, 2011 at 5:46pm:


I'm actually curious...can only remember falling off about twice. One was one of Digi's run, one was a mostly guild run WAY back...>.>

Schmoe wrote on Jan 30^th, 2011 at 5:49pm:


Maybe. Do it anyways 

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Hmm.  It was fairly recent.  There were 12 people in the group, at least at first.  Somebody fell.  I thought it was you.  I could be wrong.

Good enough?

I stopped using the channels awhile back. Formed a static group with friends who play now. Am is full of drunken fuckin tards and hillbilly sheep shaggers lately. They are so fuckin caught up on their uber ego that they literally think their shit smells like flowers. But yet they fuckin suck so much that removing a curse in TOD is above and beyond them.

You got players running carnival and red fens who think they are great because they have one maybe two epic items. I am sorry but having a antique greataxe should not be the deciding factor on if you are in a elite channel. Any fucking tard with a wiz friend can get it. 

One of the last times i joined am channel i saw players begging for healers for a normal mindsunder.  I can't imagine it is much better recently. To tell you the truth i do not want to find out.

It's like you guys say. Once a player gets a Esos he thinks his build is da bomb. Fuckers do not even have one tod Completion or 2 shroud items and they think they are eligible for elite channels and epic grouping. Get fucking prepared a bit. You are a liability to the group if you are rushing into endgame.  Yeah it can be done no problem with minimal gear but  it takes a shitload longer. Most of us want to play and complete fast. not wait around for some  AM dipshit to figure out where E-wizking is and ask us for a share when he finally finds it and we are 3/4 done.

Most players at end game content are like the OP. Nick you got your group of homies, When they are not around or you are all off doing your own thing, you state you just log off. I think the same can be said for a bunch of us. We formed reliable groups of friends and run together. With zero fuckin exceptions when it comes to epic!!!

There are small pockets of players running around who do not join pugs, who are not in the channels because the channels went to shit. You want a change. You want better players. Eradicate the mentally retarded from the main end game channels. I mean shit dude. some of those low lives in there may be good players but they are a nuisance to group with and their stupidity and egos drive real end gamers away.

Somewhere along the line players adopted this attitude that in order to be a true end gamer you needed to be a asshole. This is what drives most away from the channels.

Fix the channels, make a new one or just stay grouped with your buddies. This is the only solution to end gaming on argo. A lot of end game players are still around. We never went anywhere! We just got sick of players who talk the talk but cannot walk the walk.