Ok, i'll admit it:

I bug reported this exploit after accidentally discovering it on llama, with a buch of others who were discussing it and possible permutations of it while in party.

Insert standard Turbine, "blah blah blah...thank you for your report"

Update goes live, I log in check to see, and yes the exploit is still there, immedately bug report it

Insert standard Turbine, "blah blah blah...thank you for your report"

nothing happens, no hotfix.  Word spreads and the exploit exploded. 

so in conclusion: Someone at Turbine was told at least twice, and the second time I put how wide spread the exploit was about to become

So they got what they deserved. Which only really affects Turbines sale of +3 tomes and mana pots in the store for a little while.  That's the complete effect on the company itself and that is all they care about.

"screw the game, how much is the DDO store pulling in? Kewl, I guess I get my bonus this month"


Stay thirsty my friends, and rememeber screw PLA....AOK is OK

blackwolfe wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 4:07pm:


The effect on the game economy can be much more unpredictable and could end up hurting other gamers in unexpected ways.

As for the devs I have to agree that you're right on this part.  When someone points out a duping bug not once, but twice, and you ignore it...whatever headache comes out of that was brought on yourself.  I don't feel bad for the devs in this case at all...or more accurately I don't feel bad for Turbine.  I doubt it's the dev's fault tbh...it's the piss poor piece of shit organizational system in which dev's at Turbine can be shocked at bugs that have been bug reported for months or even years.  I think Turbine has some great dev's but their organizational structure when it comes to disseminating information within the company is a piece of shit.

Oh and btw the Argo economy looks to have pretty much recovered

Eladiun wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 5:00pm:

Too simple for some people I'm afraid.

As I posted elsewhere, LDS are already back down to 450k on the AH on Sarlona. Besides I fully believe there are enough people with enough plat to crash the economy of any one of the servers at any time. They choose not to because they don't need to.

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Posting exploits on Llamaland forums when the exploit is on Llama is just as infractionizing as posting them when they're live.  PM or bug report is the only acceptable way to report them according to Turbine.

Just for clarification.

I reported the exploit using the in-game bug reporting tool, when it went live on Argo

I cannot remember if I used the in-game tool on llama or just PM'd it to the person posting in the llama Dev tracker forum.

Either way, if you're told that a horrendous exploit exists and you let it go to live when it apparently could be fixed easily, you are just at fault as the mad-clickers that use it.

In reality, these exploits and bugs could be found/fixed if they just let some GOOD players into the Mournlands and not just yes-men/women.  In addition, they really need to look at what their play testers, both Mournlands and Llamland, say and take action based on that input.


AOK is OK

mystafyi wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 11:26pm:



when they start paying me to report bugs, I will report them... that and when my account is allowed to submit reports, which it currently isnt.

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The biggest problem that Turbine has with posting how-to instructions on exploits that have been killed is that their regression testing sucks some serious ass and dead bugs repeatedly rear their ugly heads to plague the servers anew.

If you find out about an exploit once, there's a good chance you'll be able to do the same exploit (or a very similar one) in the future.

popejubal wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 8:36am:


It's a combination of...

1) Too much turnover
2) Not enough documentation and planning
3) Not enough automated scripted testing

Jaxx wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 10:26am:


You could say that.  I think 404 and Maj are making strides to fix it but I'm also concerned that those above them just don't get it.   The list of inconsistent stupid shit is a mile long...

Why do some chests not drop crafting materials?
Why is there no renown in the new challenges?
Why the constant BTC mats and etc.?
Why is my inventory filled with challenge items that don't have a bag?

...etc, so many half finished and unfinished systems.

Eladiun wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 10:36am:


100% agreed here.

I absolutely don't blame the devs.  I absolutely don't blame QA.  I blame the chuckleheads who are trying to make the Devs and QA roll out stuff to live before it's ready with too few resources and without putting together a good release management system.

Montrose wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 4:07pm:



They are also nice because they essentially extend the number of man hours you have for tests.  Run them after hours and you can effectively create time out of thin air.

Inkblack wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 4:31pm:


And Banishers, Disruptors and Smiters!

I heard about this guy who got an ML 20 +1 Banishing of Stunning +10 handwraps from a supply chest.