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Re: Last 2 feats for Monkcher?
Reply #25 - Nov 16th, 2011 at 11:09pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 2:58pm:
weapon focus bludgeoning weapons

the too hit is that bad it's probably going to help when you melee.

you could always re-evaluate it later.


Except that even with rage, ram's, tome, etc, my STR is still coming up a few points short of my DEX; ergo, weapon finesse > weapon focus
  

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Reply #26 - Nov 17th, 2011 at 3:44am
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Feynman wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 11:14am:
You know, I had another arcane archer, back when the level cap was 16, and we did an all-ranged (except for the 3 healers and 1 caster, of course) shroud; that was the first time we ever got through part 4 in one round.

If you have a specific complaint about how this could be a better archer, please speak up.

If your bias is against archers in general, then fuck off Smiley


We did one rounders with melee and clerics - not even any casters.  So, therefore, your groups must of been gimp.

I hate archers, except preston.

  

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Reply #27 - Nov 17th, 2011 at 1:24pm
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Epoch wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 3:44am:
We did one rounders with melee and clerics - not even any casters.  So, therefore, your groups must of been gimp.

I hate archers, except preston.




Reading comprehension FTW; I told you what to do if your bias was against archers (and the only 1 rounders that happened at that point were high-end guild runs where everyone already had GS, this was a PUG).
  

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Reply #28 - Nov 17th, 2011 at 2:26pm
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Feynman wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 11:09pm:
Except that even with rage, ram's, tome, etc, my STR is still coming up a few points short of my DEX; ergo, weapon finesse > weapon focus


I'll assume water stance for best dex scenario i guess (going off of a 6item cause that's a wash either way, same reason i'm ignoring ship buffs)

str
14base  +2 tome +6 item +2rage +2rams -2 stance = 24

dex
16base +2 tome +1 level +6 item = 25

I'm ofc assuming on an ap starved build like this your not blowing AP on dexterity.

atm your too hit is the same, switch to earth, add madstone titan or any other dumb temp boost, heck i don't even need to subtract the dex if you go into earth stance.

w:f bludgeon to me looks as good as finesse when your in water, and better than finesse when your not.

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I hate archers, except preston.


You need to meet more archers, like her
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Reply #29 - Nov 17th, 2011 at 3:43pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 2:26pm:
I'm ofc assuming on an ap starved build like this your not blowing AP on dexterity.


That's where it goes sideways; since I'm taking so few of the ranger/elf enhancements, I need a lot of filler to meet the prereqs (elf AA is 8 points higher than ranger AA, for example), and so I'm putting at least 4 AP into DEX, if not 8 or 12.

Yea, I run out of AP in the end, but that's just because of how turbine screwed up the monk enhancement scheme.
  

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Reply #30 - Nov 17th, 2011 at 4:52pm
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Like i said i'd assumed you weren't blowing ap on dex when you were 20

Level 20 (Monk)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise III
Enhancement: Touch of Death
Enhancement: Porous Soul
Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy II
Enhancement: Winter's Touch
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Master of Stone
Enhancement: Adept of Rain
Enhancement: Master of the Sea
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
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Re: Last 2 feats for Monkcher?
Reply #31 - Nov 17th, 2011 at 6:10pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 4:52pm:
Like i said i'd assumed you weren't blowing ap on dex when you were 20

Level 20 (Monk)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise III
Enhancement: Touch of Death
Enhancement: Porous Soul
Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy II
Enhancement: Winter's Touch
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Master of Stone
Enhancement: Adept of Rain
Enhancement: Master of the Sea
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


You left out 10k stars, which was the whole point of the build, and also requires Wind2. I'm probably going to skip touch of death, too.
  

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Re: Last 2 feats for Monkcher?
Reply #32 - Nov 17th, 2011 at 6:53pm
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eh i'm at work, you don't look like you need to be spoonfed that much.

no tod = enough ap for wind 2 and 10k stars, still don't see the need for elven dex when you could get elven ranged instead.
  

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Reply #33 - Nov 17th, 2011 at 7:26pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 6:53pm:
eh i'm at work, you don't look like you need to be spoonfed that much.

no tod = enough ap for wind 2 and 10k stars, still don't see the need for elven dex when you could get elven ranged instead.


Well, I'm looking at it from the POV of taking weapon finesse, in which case I want as high a DEX as possible, right?
  

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Reply #34 - Nov 17th, 2011 at 8:16pm
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depends, if your not taking the ranged ap for +2 to hit / damage with a bow the dex is costing you in ranged and melee.
  

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Reply #35 - Nov 18th, 2011 at 3:58am
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Feynman wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 1:24pm:
Reading comprehension FTW; I told you what to do if your bias was against archers (and the only 1 rounders that happened at that point were high-end guild runs where everyone already had GS, this was a PUG).



There was no lack of reading comprehension. You assume me not obeying you is tied to comprehension.  Well, you are wrong.  You just don't have the commanding authority you thought you did.   Sad

One rounders were happening in pugs, high end guild pug runs.  We would pug 2~4 spots just for the lolz. 
"OMG we just one rounded, what exploit did you use?"  That was my favorite response ever from back then.
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Reply #36 - Nov 18th, 2011 at 6:46am
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Epoch wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 3:58am:
There was no lack of reading comprehension. You assume me not obeying you is tied to comprehension.  Well, you are wrong.  You just don't have the commanding authority you thought you did.   Sad


This made me laugh way too early in the morning. Damn you, Epoch.
  

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Reply #37 - Nov 18th, 2011 at 1:55pm
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Epoch wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 3:58am:
One rounders were happening in pugs, high end guild pug runs.  We would pug 2~4 spots just for the lolz. 
"OMG we just one rounded, what exploit did you use?"  That was my favorite response ever from back then.


The wife and I started taking bets on various things we'd hear in the Shroud when taking a few pugs along.

"Wow, this is the fastest I've seen the portals go down" when we're all on our second string (at best) dps characters.

"That was the easiest I've seen this part go" on part II where the first person to reach the center pulled everything to the middle and then we just killed it all.

"I thought you couldn't do one rounders anymore" after a one rounder in part 4

Few others..  It just puts emphasis on the differences between experienced players and newer ones.
  

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Reply #38 - Nov 18th, 2011 at 1:59pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 8:16pm:
depends, if your not taking the ranged ap for +2 to hit / damage with a bow the dex is costing you in ranged and melee.


No, that's what I'm saying, I'm taking at least 1 tier of ranged attack, but after that I am at least as well off spending 4 AP on +2 DEX as I am 4 AP on +1 to-hit ranged.
  

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Epoch wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 3:58am:
There was no lack of reading comprehension. You assume me not obeying you is tied to comprehension.  Well, you are wrong.  You just don't have the commanding authority you thought you did.   Sad


Ah, so your problem is much more fundamental than a lack of basic academic skills. Noted.

Just out of curiosity, is the misanthropy and complete lack of social skills a prerequisite for joining all of these "elite" guilds, or is it something that they teach you after you join?
  

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Reply #40 - Nov 19th, 2011 at 4:28am
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Feynman wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 2:20pm:
Ah, so your problem is much more fundamental than a lack of basic academic skills. Noted.

Just out of curiosity, is the misanthropy and complete lack of social skills a prerequisite for joining all of these "elite" guilds, or is it something that they teach you after you join?


Once again, you have your conceited sense of authority mixed up with social skills.  You actually have no control over people listening to you.  People listen to those they respect in some way or another, they do not obey maggots.

I know it is hard for you to understand.  One day you just might be able to grasp it.  Which reminds me, do they teach you to be retarded when you join shitty guilds, or is it a requirement to never appear to be about a 65 IQ? You see, I can point out the same stupid question for you.  Yet I know for a fact it isn't true.  I know lots of people in shitty guilds who are actually smart and good players.  Therefore, I can ascertain that it is just you.
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Reply #41 - Nov 19th, 2011 at 4:32am
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Osharan Tregarth wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 1:55pm:
The wife and I started taking bets on various things we'd hear in the Shroud when taking a few pugs along.

"Wow, this is the fastest I've seen the portals go down" when we're all on our second string (at best) dps characters.

"That was the easiest I've seen this part go" on part II where the first person to reach the center pulled everything to the middle and then we just killed it all.

"I thought you couldn't do one rounders anymore" after a one rounder in part 4

Few others..  It just puts emphasis on the differences between experienced players and newer ones.


Good times.  I remember a few times when the pugs would freak out and say, "You are doing it wrong, we are all going to wipe!" when we would take everything to the center and  do a beatdown.  Hearing them freak out was the highlight of those days.
  

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Epoch wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 4:28am:
Once again, you have your conceited sense of authority mixed up with social skills.  You actually have no control over people listening to you.  People listen to those they respect in some way or another, they do not obey maggots.

I know it is hard for you to understand.  One day you just might be able to grasp it.  Which reminds me, do they teach you to be retarded when you join shitty guilds, or is it a requirement to never appear to be about a 65 IQ? You see, I can point out the same stupid question for you.  Yet I know for a fact it isn't true.  I know lots of people in shitty guilds who are actually smart and good players.  Therefore, I can ascertain that it is just you.


Gawna, find out what this person is smoking and have an ounce of it sent to my quarters immediately!

P.S. He just called our old guild shitty; get him!
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Feynman wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 9:10am:
Gawna, find out what this person is smoking and have an ounce of it sent to my quarters immediately!

P.S. He just called our old guild shitty; get him!


You can't have any, it is custom made just for me.

I didn't say the guild was shitty, I was bringing in a non-existent example.  Reading comprehension is something you should put all your skill points in next time you level.
  

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Reply #44 - Nov 19th, 2011 at 9:22am
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Epoch wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 9:18am:
You can't have any, it is custom made just for me.

I didn't say the guild was shitty, I was bringing in a non-existent example.  Reading comprehension is something you should put all your skill points in next time you level.

Actually, it's pretty well implied that you're saying he's from a shitty guild.  You don't say it explicitly, but the whole "I can ascertain that it is just you" makes it seem like your example is a lot more than just a 'non-existent example.'
  

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Reply #45 - Nov 19th, 2011 at 9:26am
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Oakianus wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 9:22am:
Actually, it's pretty well implied that you're saying he's from a shitty guild.  You don't say it explicitly, but the whole "I can ascertain that it is just you" makes it seem like your example is a lot more than just a 'non-existent example.' 



Really? You people just read wrong, that is all.   Grin

Bah, I will reword it then.  After I think of a good way to, I thought it was clear :/, meh.
  

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Epoch wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 9:26am:
Really? You people just read wrong, that is all.   Grin

Bah, I will reword it then.  After I think of a good way to, I thought it was clear :/, meh.

To be fair, I meant to go to bed about 5 hours ago and installed Skyrim instead.  Sad  So it's entirely possible that it's just me.
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Oakianus wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 9:28am:
To be fair, I meant to go to bed about 5 hours ago and installed Skyrim instead.  Sad  So it's entirely possible that it's just me.


Skyrim sucks.  Bloodwhateverpass keeps crashing on me and I have no idea why.  It is starting to anger me, I will obliviate all of skyrim if I cannot find a way to rectify this on the morrow.
  

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Re: Last 2 feats for Monkcher?
Reply #48 - Nov 19th, 2011 at 2:33pm
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Epoch wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 9:26am:
After I think...


Don't hurt yourself trying, it's not worth it.
  

"Science makes godlike -- it is all over with priests and gods when man becomes scientific. Moral: science is the forbidden as such -- it alone is forbidden. Science is the *first* sin, the *original* sin. *This alone is morality.* ``Thou shalt not know'' -- the rest follows."
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: Last 2 feats for Monkcher?
Reply #49 - Nov 19th, 2011 at 2:52pm
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Oakianus wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 9:28am:
To be fair, I meant to go to bed about 5 hours ago and installed Skyrim instead.  Sad  So it's entirely possible that it's just me.


It's just you. I got it the first time. Or maybe I just speak Epoch now in addition to speaking Oak. The Vault has expanded my linguistic boundaries.
  

JDollar wrote on Apr 10th, 2013 at 5:25pm:
she's Kmack's property


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You're obviously important to the community.  And not just because your skin is so supple and soft and smells like honeysuckle and friendship.


JDollar wrote on Jul 10th, 2013 at 2:15am:
To put in DnD terms Grace is a CR 60 EE Ball Busting Bitch
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