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Bazinga Stormreaver Piker Offline Suck it Bay! Bay! Posts: 579 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2011 Gender:	Concordant effect with GS items Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 7:40pm	Print Post
	I've crafted a number of GS items but I have always used the umontreal planner. I read posts about concordant oppostion and the opposite of this. Could someone explain what this actually means?
	« Last Edit: Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 7:41pm by Bazinga »
	majmalphunktion wrote on Apr 26^th, 2014 at 11:06pm: Wow, you love me. There has been two big lag fixes in the past week. No, those are not going out with a hotfix. They are more wide ranging and take more time to test. Of course every time you get like this, I keep wondering where your MMO is so I can play it. Obviously you know excatly how to piece one of these together. I can't keep apologizing a gazillion times for the back end tech and things people did on this game before I was even an employee. So one last time, yes some of the stuff from the before times sucks. Sorry about that. Yes we know, stop building new systems. Yes we know, finish the ones out there. Yes we know you hate bards. And screw you for bringing up the laid off folks. That sucks every time. I made sure all my people landed in other jobs real quick. None of my 'casualties' are unemployed, just sadly not employed by Turbine. Every business goes through this.Even Valve has layoffs. It sucks every time. If you haven't had to do it then you just don't know. Picking people and knowing you are about to turn their life upside down is terrible, every time. Not giving a bleep. No, I stop listening when the bile starts. Not worth my sanity. You know my rule, treat me like a human and I'll do the same back. When the rage train starts...cya. So here is my peace out of the vault for a while. Thanks for the list Ranger, that was actually clear and helpful.
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Oakianus Troleplayer Offline I Really Do Love Drama! Posts: 5466 Joined: May 20^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #1 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 7:53pm	Print Post
	From the umontreal planner when you mouse over ConcOpp: When you are hit in melee, there is a chance you may be given spell points or temporary hit points. Devs posted that there is an independent 4% chance for each effect (HP and SP) to occur. Similar guard effects should not stack in any way. The HP and SP are separate effects on weapons but together on accessories.


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #2 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:35pm	Print Post
	And since the effects are different, a single conopp weapon will "stack" with a single conopp accessory. Double conopp and torc is manna.


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JC My Little Pony Offline Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #3 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 9:05pm	Print Post
	cdr wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:35pm: And since the effects are different, a single conopp weapon will "stack" with a single conopp accessory. Double conopp and torc is manna. Really? are you sure about this? If so that would be awesome if not that would be a wasted double shard.

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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #4 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 9:09pm	Print Post
	JC wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 9:05pm: Really? are you sure about this? If so that would be awesome if not that would be a wasted double shard. Quite positive. Accessory + accessory same effect, no stack. Weapon + weapon same effect, no stack. Accessory + weapon, different effects, stacks. I've gotten two conopp mana procs + torc proc from a single hit.


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Xenostrata Ex Member	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #5 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 9:12pm	Print Post
	cdr wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 9:09pm: Quite positive. Accessory + accessory same effect, no stack. Weapon + weapon same effect, no stack. Accessory + weapon, different effects, stacks. I've gotten two conopp mana procs + torc proc from a single hit. Seems overkill, tbh. Most of the time I'd prefer to just keep my Petitioner slotted for the SP, and whenever I'm turtling for torc/conopp procs I'm not so pressed for time that I feel like I need more - especially since you fill pretty fast anyway.


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JC My Little Pony Offline Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #6 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 9:44pm	Print Post
	Well I am making a con op scepter anyway.

	Alekx wrote on Jun 15^th, 2011 at 11:46pm: Fuck you and your political correctness. Eat a big fat conservative homo cock while you gaze at pony pictures with a hose up your ass.
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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #7 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 10:05pm	Print Post
	Quote: Seems overkill, tbh. Most of the time I'd prefer to just keep my Petitioner slotted for the SP, and whenever I'm turtling for torc/conopp procs I'm not so pressed for time that I feel like I need more - especially since you fill pretty fast anyway. If you want +3 excep cha for a sorc or whatever life anyway, why not make it con-opp.


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green00_00 Butterface Offline DDO Vault Failure Posts: 555 Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2011	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #8 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 10:37pm	Print Post
	con-op weapons and accessories stack, but its been stated that its not WAI and is subject to nerfing in the future.

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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #9 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 4:17am	Print Post
	green00_00 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 10:37pm: con-op weapons and accessories stack, but its been stated that its not WAI and is subject to nerfing in the future. They stated that like 2 years ago.


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Bazinga Stormreaver Piker Offline Suck it Bay! Bay! Posts: 579 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2011 Gender:	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #10 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 6:33am	Print Post
	Thanks for the explanation. I guess I didn't pay much attention to it becasue it is an effect I didn't think would be worth it. However, it doesn't say how much HP or SP you get so I assumed the amount would be low so dismissed it. Weird to conclude yes. But I associated low chance with low amount. Is it a decent amount when it does strike?
	« Last Edit: Mar 4^th, 2012 at 6:34am by Bazinga »
	majmalphunktion wrote on Apr 26^th, 2014 at 11:06pm: Wow, you love me. There has been two big lag fixes in the past week. No, those are not going out with a hotfix. They are more wide ranging and take more time to test. Of course every time you get like this, I keep wondering where your MMO is so I can play it. Obviously you know excatly how to piece one of these together. I can't keep apologizing a gazillion times for the back end tech and things people did on this game before I was even an employee. So one last time, yes some of the stuff from the before times sucks. Sorry about that. Yes we know, stop building new systems. Yes we know, finish the ones out there. Yes we know you hate bards. And screw you for bringing up the laid off folks. That sucks every time. I made sure all my people landed in other jobs real quick. None of my 'casualties' are unemployed, just sadly not employed by Turbine. Every business goes through this.Even Valve has layoffs. It sucks every time. If you haven't had to do it then you just don't know. Picking people and knowing you are about to turn their life upside down is terrible, every time. Not giving a bleep. No, I stop listening when the bile starts. Not worth my sanity. You know my rule, treat me like a human and I'll do the same back. When the rage train starts...cya. So here is my peace out of the vault for a while. Thanks for the list Ranger, that was actually clear and helpful.
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Slug Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1061 Joined: Feb 19^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #11 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 7:13am	Print Post
	I get around 25-30 sp when it procs. Not sure on the temp hp amount though. I view archers as mana batteries now.


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #12 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 11:23am	Print Post
	Even if you're a ranger or pally, strongly consider making your HP item conopp. Divine or arcane it's a nobrainer. It's probably the single most powerful GS effect.


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Bazinga Stormreaver Piker Offline Suck it Bay! Bay! Posts: 579 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2011 Gender:	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #13 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 12:47pm	Print Post
	Hmmmm, so weapons shipment and conopp GS item would be an excellent combination? Cuz of high number bowmen?

	majmalphunktion wrote on Apr 26^th, 2014 at 11:06pm: Wow, you love me. There has been two big lag fixes in the past week. No, those are not going out with a hotfix. They are more wide ranging and take more time to test. Of course every time you get like this, I keep wondering where your MMO is so I can play it. Obviously you know excatly how to piece one of these together. I can't keep apologizing a gazillion times for the back end tech and things people did on this game before I was even an employee. So one last time, yes some of the stuff from the before times sucks. Sorry about that. Yes we know, stop building new systems. Yes we know, finish the ones out there. Yes we know you hate bards. And screw you for bringing up the laid off folks. That sucks every time. I made sure all my people landed in other jobs real quick. None of my 'casualties' are unemployed, just sadly not employed by Turbine. Every business goes through this.Even Valve has layoffs. It sucks every time. If you haven't had to do it then you just don't know. Picking people and knowing you are about to turn their life upside down is terrible, every time. Not giving a bleep. No, I stop listening when the bile starts. Not worth my sanity. You know my rule, treat me like a human and I'll do the same back. When the rage train starts...cya. So here is my peace out of the vault for a while. Thanks for the list Ranger, that was actually clear and helpful.
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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #14 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 12:59pm	Print Post
	JC wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 9:05pm: Really? are you sure about this? If so that would be awesome if not that would be a wasted double shard. It does. My FvS Barrock has a con op weapon, item and torc. Orthons give me goosebumps.

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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #15 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 1:20pm	Print Post
	Bazinga wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 12:47pm: Hmmmm, so weapons shipment and conopp GS item would be an excellent combination? Cuz of high number bowmen? That's how people solo elite weapons shipment for their bauble, yes. One or two conopps works fine if you don't have torc yet.


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Blank Ex Member	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #16 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 2:38pm	Print Post
	cdr wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 1:20pm: That's how people solo elite weapons shipment for their bauble, yes. One or two conopps works fine if you don't have torc yet. When my Arty gets her Torc, I may try this. She just finished her ConcOpp HP item.


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #17 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 2:48pm	Print Post
	Elite weapons shipment solo is actually pretty easy if you can self heal + regen mana. The quest adds a multiplier of spawns for each additional person, so a full party actually gets something like 6x more spawns than solo - it's insane. Kill stuff till you're depleted, spend however many minutes conopp/torcing back to full, kill stuff, rinse repeat.


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Blank Ex Member	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #18 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 2:51pm	Print Post
	We did it 3 man with a piker. So much fun with Fel on his FvS and me pewpewing in a circle with occasional Tac Dets to knock down every fucking Orthon.


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JC My Little Pony Offline Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #19 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 4:20pm	Print Post
	rest wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 4:17am: They stated that like 2 years ago. I would not be surprised if they forgot

	Alekx wrote on Jun 15^th, 2011 at 11:46pm: Fuck you and your political correctness. Eat a big fat conservative homo cock while you gaze at pony pictures with a hose up your ass.
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Felgor Shroud Slacker Offline Go Fuck Yourself Posts: 1011 Joined: Jun 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #20 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 5:26pm	Print Post
	Quote: We did it 3 man with a piker. So much fun with Fel on his FvS and me pewpewing in a circle with occasional Tac Dets to knock down every fucking Orthon. Hehe yea it is fun. I was soloing Elite Wep Ship with 300-600sp left before I got a Torc, and not intending to make a con op item for Felgor. Torc is plenty for me. What I mean is, go and solo it without a torc, it's not too much of an issue with solo scaling.
	« Last Edit: Mar 4^th, 2012 at 6:19pm by Felgor »
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Blank Ex Member	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #21 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 6:47pm	Print Post
	Felgor wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 5:26pm: Hehe yea it is fun. I was soloing Elite Wep Ship with 300-600sp left before I got a Torc, and not intending to make a con op item for Felgor. Torc is plenty for me. What I mean is, go and solo it without a torc, it's not too much of an issue with solo scaling. Sorry, I'm out of Endless Fel. Those Orthons were just asking for it.


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Felgor Shroud Slacker Offline Go Fuck Yourself Posts: 1011 Joined: Jun 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #22 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 7:28pm	Print Post
	Quote: Sorry, I'm out of Endless Fel. Those Orthons were just asking for it. Save 2 Endless Fusillades for the Pit Fiend, noob! Or, just heal me

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popejubal Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline fnord Posts: 6364 Location: Argo Joined: Aug 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #23 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 7:48pm	Print Post
	I've started taking people into weapons shipment because it's more fun. Such a rediculous number of enemies spawn at the same time. On Elite solo, I only end up fighting three at a time, so I feel like my Blade Barriers are wasted. Strafe right and turn left at the same time (just have to re-map your keys so that you have a key for strafing) and you can watch TV as long as you remember to drop a new blade barrier every once in a while. If you get bored with that, you can strafe left and turn right at the same time... So mch more fun than the old Weapons Shipment.

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Blank Ex Member	Re: Concordant effect with GS items Reply #24 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:26pm	Print Post
	popejubal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 7:48pm: I've started taking people into weapons shipment because it's more fun.� Such a rediculous number of enemies spawn at the same time. On Elite solo, I only end up fighting three at a time, so I feel like my Blade Barriers are wasted. Strafe right and turn left at the same time (just have to re-map your keys so that you have a key for strafing) and you can watch TV as long as you remember to drop a new blade barrier every once in a while.� If you get bored with that, you can strafe left and turn right at the same time... So mch more fun than the old Weapons Shipment. With 3 people in, it was nuts. Every spawn was roughly 10-12 mobs. And they came in pretty fast. I think by the time I had taken out the archers, the Hell hounds had already started.


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