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May 1st, 2012 at 3:19pm
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So I realize that asking for input on the vault is sometimes less than useful, but here goes:


I have a gimp 2nd life human PM that I don’t really want to put more
lives into, as leveling really isn’t as fun for me as raiding/farming. 

I do realize that this creates limitations, particularly with AP, spell pen, etc.


What I would like is a bit of input on gearing progression.  Presume I
can farm/craft anything if absolutely need be, but would prefer to go
after “low hanging fruit” and make due with being decent.
(yet keep things open to bridge into uberness if I decide to put in more work)


Current gimpage:

Toughness
PL: Wiz
iReflex
Necro 1+2
Quicken
Heighten
Extend
Maximize
Empower
Shield+Mastery
Spell Pen I

Head: Minos
Neck: Torc
Trinket: HoGF
Cloak: Magewright
Belt: Epic Lion
Ring: (swap) Epic Mire
Gloves: GS HP – CCopp/-5% spell fail, skill 13 large augment
Boots: Various swaps
Ring: (perm) Mechanic  ( +3 ex int)
Bracers: Epic Demon Consort
Armor: Epic Shadow
Goggles: Magewright

16th level tier 3 cove dagger
+5 Light Mithral Shield – Lifeshield of Superior Stability
Light and Darkness (have to wear a -5% spell fail reducer somewhere when using this)


Mild grinding:

Head: Epic Darkstorm
Neck: Torc
Trinket: Litany
Cloak: Cloak of Flames, other swaps
Belt: Epic Lion
Ring: (swap) Epic Mire
Gloves: GS HP – CCopp/-5% spell fail, skill 13 large augment
Boots:  Epic Rock (and various swaps)
Ring: (perm) Mechanic  ( +3 ex int)
Bracers: Epic Demon Consort
Armor: Epic Diabolist/Epic Shadow
Goggles: Magewright

Mainhand - Water/Water/(eventually fire tier 3) Alchemical


Final Uber list:

Enervation guard somewhere
Epic Spirit Sight?  (seems kinda so-so)
???
  
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Re: Quasi-End Game PM
Reply #1 - May 1st, 2012 at 3:56pm
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I like to bridge into uberness every morning.
  

"As my windshield melts, and my tears evaporate,
Leaving only charcoal to defend -
Finally I understand the feelings of the few,
Ashes and diamonds, foe and friend, we were all equal in the end."

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Reply #2 - May 1st, 2012 at 7:39pm
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Not required, but if you're in Ascension Chamber already you want to pick up Noxious Embers for the Maximize clicky.  Saves a ton of mana when you're in nuke mode on a raid boss.

Epic Ring of the Mire is great when you want to Torc up.  Consider crafting a Greater Necromany Focus ring with a guild slot to use full time, and wear the Epic Diabolist Robe.  With the Litany (or a tome upgrade) that's +1 DC to all your spells.
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Reply #3 - May 1st, 2012 at 10:47pm
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Epic Robe of Shadow is a pain to get rid of. I still need to redo my PM's equip, even though I'll be TRing in 2-3 weeks. Really need the +7 from Robe of Diabloist, but Shadow does so much stuff that's critical to survivability it's hard to cram it all into other slots. I probably won't end up fixing it.
  
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Reply #4 - May 2nd, 2012 at 1:07am
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Here's my gearout on Malshier. I like this setup and I feel it's almost complete for the way I play my PM (poorly)

Helm: Min 2 SP
Neck: Epic Torc
Trinket: T3 Spyglass slotted with -15% ASF (for hound shield)
Cloak: Epic Mirror
Belt: PM belt
Ring1: Epic Elemental Essence
Gloves: HP Conc Opp
Boots: Cannith Propulsion (will swap to crafted jump/ff boots with large guild slot when I get my PM ring)
Ring2: +6 int with large guild slot placeholder. Will be PM ring with +2 exceptional CON
Bracers: Epic Demon Consort slotted with GFL and Con 6
Robe: Epic Diabolist which will be slotted with toughness when I stop being lazy.
Goggles: Epic Spirit Sight slotted with +1 exceptional INT
Weapon: Epic Staff of Arcane Power

I weapon swap to cove dagger + hound shield + Epic Shadow Robe if I'll be tanking. Biggest downside to this gearout is I don't have superior nullification, which is why I want the PM ring. Epic Darkstorm might be a good place holder, but I don't want to slot fort elsewhere to take off my min 2 hat while drinking yugo pots.


Then I re-read your post and realized you wanted low hanging fruit gear. So nevermind. I'll just use this post to brag about my uber gears.
  
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Reply #5 - May 2nd, 2012 at 1:52am
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Superior nullification is an issue for you? Why not chug pots, they're only like 500pp each Smiley

The PM set gives epic nullification btw, but you probably knew that. The PM ring is the one caster ring I've gotten out of TOD, on my second run or something I was the only arcane and it got passed.
  
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Reply #6 - May 2nd, 2012 at 10:34am
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Nullification is an issue right now, but once I get my PM ring I'll be fine. I swap to my Epic Shadow robe to pop my aura when I go into form, and then use the PM belt clickies to burst.

Also have the dweller when I'm nuking, and the robe is a quick swap if I REALLY need it.

I spend my money on haste pots, not nullification pots :p
  
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Reply #7 - May 2nd, 2012 at 10:44am
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Carpone wrote on May 1st, 2012 at 7:39pm:
Not required, but if you're in Ascension Chamber already you want to pick up Noxious Embers for the Maximize clicky.  Saves a ton of mana when you're in nuke mode on a raid boss.

Epic Ring of the Mire is great when you want to Torc up.  Consider crafting a Greater Necromany Focus ring with a guild slot to use full time, and wear the Epic Diabolist Robe.  With the Litany (or a tome upgrade) that's +1 DC to all your spells.



Yeah, was thinking something like that for DC work.

I have room for:  +4 tome, Human adaptability (int), Litany, +7 stat(diabolist robe, thank god I passed on bajillions of seals/shards back when this guy was a robot and I "needed the Docent instead")

With the hat "outages" in nihil clicks are covered, I can slot GFL in the bracers for only -10HP, and the inflict proc isn't as much a deal in places where I need DC.
  
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Reply #8 - May 2nd, 2012 at 11:02am
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rest wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 1:07am:
Here's my gearout on Malshier. I like this setup and I feel it's almost complete for the way I play my PM (poorly)

Helm: Min 2 SP
Neck: Epic Torc
Trinket: T3 Spyglass slotted with -15% ASF (for hound shield)
Cloak: Epic Mirror
Belt: PM belt
Ring1: Epic Elemental Essence
Gloves: HP Conc Opp
Boots: Cannith Propulsion (will swap to crafted jump/ff boots with large guild slot when I get my PM ring)
Ring2: +6 int with large guild slot placeholder. Will be PM ring with +2 exceptional CON
Bracers: Epic Demon Consort slotted with GFL and Con 6
Robe: Epic Diabolist which will be slotted with toughness when I stop being lazy.
Goggles: Epic Spirit Sight slotted with +1 exceptional INT
Weapon: Epic Staff of Arcane Power

I weapon swap to cove dagger + hound shield + Epic Shadow Robe if I'll be tanking. Biggest downside to this gearout is I don't have superior nullification, which is why I want the PM ring. Epic Darkstorm might be a good place holder, but I don't want to slot fort elsewhere to take off my min 2 hat while drinking yugo pots.


Then I re-read your post and realized you wanted low hanging fruit gear. So nevermind. I'll just use this post to brag about my uber gears.



Lol yeah, the only thing I'd really chase atm is the litany and lob spirits.  (was "this close" to exquisite fire last night)

I also kinda wanted all the potencies and lores on static items in addition to clikies to handle "outages".
  
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Reply #9 - May 2nd, 2012 at 11:08am
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Ewww gross, ring crafting options are sucky for a suffix.

When things need to insta-die I do have a death's touch for necro focus...too bad greater foci don't have more slot options.
  
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Reply #10 - May 2nd, 2012 at 11:10am
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cdr wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 1:52am:
Superior nullification is an issue for you? Why not chug pots, they're only like 500pp each Smiley

The PM set gives epic nullification btw, but you probably knew that. The PM ring is the one caster ring I've gotten out of TOD, on my second run or something I was the only arcane and it got passed.



Mechanic ring lets me do backflips!

Also, rest will just steal any rings I pull so replacing the mechanic may take awhile... Cheesy
  
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Reply #11 - May 2nd, 2012 at 11:26am
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Tobril wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 11:02am:
Lol yeah, the only thing I'd really chase atm is the litany and lob spirits.  (was "this close" to exquisite fire last night)

I also kinda wanted all the potencies and lores on static items in addition to clikies to handle "outages".


I absolutely love the epic ring of elemental essence for the +60% damage to my elemental spells. The only clickies I use are PM belt efficiacy (however the fuck it's spelled) and the ear dweller. Otherwise I'm a terrible caster, and don't use the +75% clickies.

Really the only thing I'd ever run LOB for is a one handed version of the epic staff or arcane might, so I could wear my shield full time. But fuck LOB. I'm not at all interested in running it. It might as well be titan for all I care.
  
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Reply #12 - May 2nd, 2012 at 11:27am
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But Tobril I would absolutely suggest getting a spyglass. Blue slot in a trinket with +2 exceptional INT is nice. Could open up some other gearing opportunities. Plus it's still BTA at tier 3.
  
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rest wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 11:26am:
I absolutely love the epic ring of elemental essence for the +60% damage to my elemental spells. The only clickies I use are PM belt efficiacy (however the fuck it's spelled) and the ear dweller. Otherwise I'm a terrible caster, and don't use the +75% clickies.


Honestly, if I'm not eardwelling, I don't care that my elemental spells are 50% instead of 60% or 75%. I've just never found it to matter. Once I'm back to sorc I'll care, but I just can't on a PM.
  
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Reply #14 - May 2nd, 2012 at 2:58pm
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rest wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 11:27am:
But Tobril I would absolutely suggest getting a spyglass. Blue slot in a trinket with +2 exceptional INT is nice. Could open up some other gearing opportunities. Plus it's still BTA at tier 3.



I've got one, could make another I guess.

It does open up the ring situation.  I'll keep in it mind in case I ever pull some new rings that don't suck.
  
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Reply #15 - May 2nd, 2012 at 3:05pm
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Make a couple. You might make an assassin someday.
  
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rest wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 11:26am:
I absolutely love the epic ring of elemental essence for the +60% damage to my elemental spells. The only clickies I use are PM belt efficiacy (however the fuck it's spelled) and the ear dweller. Otherwise I'm a terrible caster, and don't use the +75% clickies.

Really the only thing I'd ever run LOB for is a one handed version of the epic staff or arcane might, so I could wear my shield full time. But fuck LOB. I'm not at all interested in running it. It might as well be titan for all I care.



I mainly can tell the difference in abbot and for death aura.  Like you say though sometimes I forget to renew a click or simply have to fire an "off the hip" disintegrate or something.


Also, lob really isn't that bad.  The real problem is that the people who can do epic have massive egos and strange grudges against each other so getting a group going can be challenging. 

The few normal pugs that happen are fail-trains that end up drinking a million pots and making main forum posts that embarrass the hell out of our server.
  
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Reply #17 - May 2nd, 2012 at 3:08pm
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rest wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 3:05pm:
Make a couple. You might make an assassin someday.



Goddamn cove...I have all kinds of stupid shit "just in case I make an X".

I promise to sleep for a week straight once that shit is done.
  
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Reply #18 - May 2nd, 2012 at 6:13pm
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cdr wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 12:44pm:
Honestly, if I'm not eardwelling, I don't care that my elemental spells are 50% instead of 60% or 75%. I've just never found it to matter. Once I'm back to sorc I'll care, but I just can't on a PM.



I can get pretty close to one-shotting drow with the necro-ray
when the 75% click is running.

Hopefully the tier 3 fire stick boosts it (or disintegrate) enough
to go all the way.

  
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Tobril wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 6:13pm:
I can get pretty close to one-shotting drow with the necro-ray
when the 75% click is running.

Hopefully the tier 3 fire stick boosts it (or disintegrate) enough
to go all the way.



Right, I said elemental. I have epic (60%) nullification IX from PM set and more often than not a 75% pot in raids. I don't care if Niacs or Eledars is 60% instead of 50%.
  
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cdr wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 6:17pm:
Right, I said elemental. I have epic (60%) nullification IX from PM set and more often than not a 75% pot in raids. I don't care if Niacs or Eledars is 60% instead of 50%.



Doh, reading fail on my part.


Concept still stands, I’m trying to be a god little caster and
spit out as much damage as possible when needed.

What actually tends to happen is “oh yeah the clikie”
when the monster is almost dead.

  
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Reply #21 - May 6th, 2012 at 11:59pm
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Quick note: Life Shield doesn't work for a PM in form, you'll want a different prefix on your shield. Your options are mostly terrible. I guess you could do a +5 Greater Focus of Superior Stability. Or slot +5 Resist somewhere else, and get a useful named shield.
  
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Reply #22 - May 7th, 2012 at 1:41pm
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Could have sworn my lifeshield proced on my PM. I guess I have plenty of other sources of temp HP proc, so I never noticed.
  
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Reply #23 - May 7th, 2012 at 1:52pm
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I've never tried life shield on my PM, but there's been ample posts on the forums saying it doesn't (or asking why it doesn't, etc).

Double conopp, demonic shield, lich form, boon of undeath is about the best you can do.
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rest wrote on May 7th, 2012 at 1:41pm:
Could have sworn my lifeshield proced on my PM. I guess I have plenty of other sources of temp HP proc, so I never noticed.



I'll test it out this week to make sure.
  
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