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Ironical the Bionicle Waterworks Kobold Offline RAGE! Posts: 109 Joined: Jun 10^th, 2011	Vet Noobs Jun 18^th, 2012 at 3:33pm	Print Post
	When I saw this post, I thought it was a terrible exageration. Newbs vs Vets http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=376124 Quote: [QUOTE=Keybreaker;4495408] (1) Playtime Is Irrelevant The amount of time you've been playing this game has almost no correlation with how good a player you are.� You can't be uber on day one because DDO is very peculiar.� But if you're smart enough and coordinated enough, then you can be uber from day two.� Conversely, just because you've been playing DDO for a looong time, doesn't necessarily mean you're any "good" at it in the sense of knowledge, skill, temperament, or ability to play well with others. I've seen "Founders" who've been playing since 2006 who don't know how to raid. I've seen people with 50k+ posts on the forums talk excitedly about completing their first Shroud = their first raid completion ever (not counting TS ofc). There are plently of players who've been playing this game for a long time, who've TR'd toons, who've run 1,000 Shrouds, who are still flat out NOOBS. But then I recently saw these: Been playing since 2006, never done a raid, afraid of 1st Shroud: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=378335 At least he has a 20. This guy's been playing 6.5yrs - 30days, and highest level toon is 18! http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=4525300&postcount=14 Most of the forums are min-maxers, raiders, shortmanners, nerfers, greenis farmers... But Plz shr Vet Noob sightings... it's perversely entertaining.
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Azog Ex Member	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #1 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 3:46pm	Print Post
	The friend that introduced me to DDO and plays every day... He has a toon in our static group, another caped toon, grinding epic gear and such. Well, the other day, my cleric falls to -1. "Hey, n00b friend of Azog, could you hjeal me?" " I has nothing to hjeals" (I know he NEVER throws something away) "well, you surely have the aid bracers from khortos..." "O yes, I have them, but I cannot click on you to choose you" "Just keep pressing f2, f3, and so, til you see me" (wooosh... I see how he casts aid on himself...) "You have to put it in a hotbar" "Ah, yes.." (wooosh...he casts again aid on himself) "And you have to trigger it FROM the hotbar, not the inventory" "Oh, didn�t know that" Lucky me, another friend was tired of the show and helped me out with an aid. ...the best... this was the SECOND time I tell him that. It happened before.


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Belwaar Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1017 Location: With Hordo's Mom Joined: Jun 30^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #2 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 3:51pm	Print Post
	Ironical the Bionicle wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 3:33pm: When I saw this post, I thought it was a terrible exageration. While I do think that time has some relevance, the guy has a point. There are tons of players that have been playing since Beta that outright suck, but yet they'll tout out how long they've been playing in an effort to garner respect. What's funny is when they do the opposite when they're called out. "I've been playing two years and can lead just about anything..." "Guys, I've only been playing the game for two years. I still have a lot to learn."

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sweez Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 764 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #3 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 9:40pm	Print Post
	Well, practice makes better but it stacks multiplicatively, not additively� Someone who is just bad at videogames (and a lot of these seem to play DDO compared to other online games I played, must be the whole d&d thing� ), passage of time can't fix that, same with me and bad puns


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Enoach Korthos Resident Offline Paladins, Wizards and Clerics Oh my! Posts: 68 Location: California Joined: Dec 31^st, 2010 Gender:	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #4 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 11:22pm	Print Post
	I've been playing since end of '06 I've lead every raid but Abbot, Titan, Artificer and LoB. I like the first two, just don't have the patience to wait to form the group - The Last two I'm still learning as I've been on the TR train so much that I haven't spent much time in them. I still learn stuff by listening and letting others lead when I join their groups. Sometimes you find some neat "Short-cuts" and other times you get to hear such complete rubbish about the best way to do stuff, or false information about quests most likely perpetuated by someone else.


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Schmoe Epic Poster Offline One world, one soul Posts: 4219 Location: A chair Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #5 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 11:54pm	Print Post
	Enoach wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 11:22pm: I've been playing since end of '06 I've lead every raid but Abbot, Titan, Artificer and LoB.� I like the first two, just don't have the patience to wait to form the group - The Last two I'm still learning as I've been on the TR train so much that I haven't spent much time in them. I still learn stuff by listening and letting others lead when I join their groups.� Sometimes you find some neat "Short-cuts" and other times you get to hear such complete rubbish about the best way to do stuff, or false information about quests most likely perpetuated by someone else. I don't think you qualify as a vet noob.

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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #6 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:45am	Print Post
	Schmoe wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 11:54pm: I don't think you qualify as a vet noob.� � Do I?

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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Azuphle Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 126 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #7 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 2:09am	Print Post
	Well I totally agree with keybreaker, but I think the examples you brought there are a bit off. DDOs game content is rather easy, the difficult part of DDO would rather be the handling of the game mechanics which are vastly different from most MMOs. The vet noob doesn't have to be the guy that never ran shroud, but the guy bragging about having 500 Bazillion scales but still managing to die in part 3 of shroud.


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Sham Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Random Effects on Named Loot! - No one ever Posts: 685 Location: Siberia Joined: May 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #8 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 2:36am	Print Post
	Smrti wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:45am: Do I? ya,


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string table error, tableDID Stormreaver Piker Offline ah......fresh meat Posts: 743 Location: Boredville Joined: Dec 9^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #9 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 3:58am	Print Post
	I know a few or these vet-noobs, my old guild had quite a few. Some are only part time noobs when it comes to adopting to new things. They still run quests and raids like they learned them on the old codemasters� servers. Like the people that still ask my if I want to join their boring vale slayer grind but are afraid of challenges, because they are to complicated�. And if I join said vale slayer in sake of the good old days I only remember as the empty server days this happens: Just heal me, I�ll shout them with my repeater� kiting mobs thru the entire vale, attracting more killing hardly any, needing constant healing. Me: Have you tried Artificers, it�s like a repeater rogue with bladebarrier, self heals if warforged and and a rune arm cannon � not true enough to D&D for you? Right� what is that repeater? You shoot them with something good aligned, do you? Banishing works good in vale. Answer: Hellfire crossbow... I let him die, hit implosion and bladebarrier, rez him after the train he caused is dead and recall. That are the moments I remember why I looked for another guild with players that are not dinosaurs.
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aDifferentHandle Abbot Raider Offline omg, that's the funky shit Posts: 996 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #10 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 5:00am	Print Post
	string table error, tableDID wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 3:58am: I know a few or these vet-noobs, my old guild had quite a few. Some are only part time noobs when it comes to adopting to new things. They still run quests and raids like they learned them on the old codemasters� servers. This. Exactly. I don't know which server you are playing on, but I had a similar experience. I am still befriended with my ex-guild, but needless to say, it is my ex-guild.
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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #11 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 5:53am	Print Post
	I lead the raid of my fridge and cupboard everyday. At least 5 times.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #12 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 8:21am	Print Post
	I have a theory that many people play DDO and other co-op/MMO type games because they're terrible at competitive games.� I'll admit it: I'm not very good at FPS and RTS games.� But I like to think that the mark of a bad gamer in DDO is the inability to learn and do abbot puzzles properly, and from the looks of it, the large majority of DDO players are far worse gamers than me.� And this makes me happy. /narrative
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Merrick DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 456 Joined: Nov 29^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #13 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 8:27am	Print Post
	Belwaar wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 3:51pm: While I do think that time has some relevance, the guy has a point.� There are tons of players that have been playing since Beta that outright suck, but yet they'll tout out how long they've been playing in an effort to garner respect.� What's funny is when they do the opposite when they're called out. "I've been playing two years and can lead just about anything..." "Guys, I've only been playing the game for two years.� I still have a lot to learn." I wish DDO had a /played like everquest. The fact that I've been playing for over a year means squat when you consider I've rarely had a week where I've gotten in more than 10 quests for the WHOLE WEEK. Some weeks I'm lucky to complete a single quest. I'm the WORST when it comes to downtime. The second my wife sees the DDO Screen come up, nevermind that she's logged into LotRO, It's time to clean/watch the kid/do something else that wasn't urgent 10 seconds ago so the only times I get to play are either when she's gone or when she's asleep.


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Schmoe Epic Poster Offline One world, one soul Posts: 4219 Location: A chair Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #14 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 8:31am	Print Post
	Merrick wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 8:27am: I wish DDO had a /played like everquest. The fact that I've been playing for over a year means squat when you consider I've rarely had a week where I've gotten in more than 10 quests for the WHOLE WEEK. Some weeks I'm lucky to complete a single quest. I'm the WORST when it comes to downtime. The second my wife sees the DDO Screen come up, nevermind that she's logged into LotRO, It's time to clean/watch the kid/do something else that wasn't urgent 10 seconds ago so the only times I get to play are either when she's gone or when she's asleep. I don't know what your problem is. My wife sleeps every night.

	"As my windshield melts, and my tears evaporate, Leaving only charcoal to defend - Finally I understand the feelings of the few, Ashes and diamonds, foe and friend, we were all equal in the end." -Waters
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Merrick DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 456 Joined: Nov 29^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #15 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 8:46am	Print Post
	Schmoe wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 8:31am: I don't know what your problem is.� My wife sleeps every night. Mine, like our daughter, is apparently sleep agnostic. She's certain that there's SOMETHING out there that might be sleep, or a nap, or possibly dozing, but she's not comfortable giving it a name or dealing with it particularly often. That's for OTHER types of people.


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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #16 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 9:15am	Print Post
	AtomicMew wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 8:21am: I have a theory that many people play DDO and other co-op/MMO type games because they're terrible at competitive games.� I'll admit it: I'm not very good at FPS and RTS games.� But I like to think that the mark of a bad gamer in DDO is the inability to learn and do abbot puzzles properly, and from the looks of it, the large majority of DDO players are far worse gamers than me.� And this makes me happy. /narrative FPS are boring. RTS games are boring, unless you actually go against somebody with real skill. This only happens during the first 6 weeks of an RTS due to its tournament ranking system. After that every scrub has earned enough points or won against enough people who DC that even the highest rank areas are filled with them. SC/SC2 is a great example.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Azog Ex Member	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #17 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 9:22am	Print Post
	Merrick wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 8:27am: I wish DDO had a /played like everquest. The fact that I've been playing for over a year means squat when you consider I've rarely had a week where I've gotten in more than 10 quests for the WHOLE WEEK. Some weeks I'm lucky to complete a single quest. I'm the WORST when it comes to downtime. The second my wife sees the DDO Screen come up, nevermind that she's logged into LotRO, It's time to clean/watch the kid/do something else that wasn't urgent 10 seconds ago so the only times I get to play are either when she's gone or when she's asleep. Man, so lucky that my wife sleeps more than 10 hours a day.


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Schmoe Epic Poster Offline One world, one soul Posts: 4219 Location: A chair Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #18 - Jun 19^th, 2012 at 9:31am	Print Post
	Smrti wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 1:45am: Do I? Good question!

	"As my windshield melts, and my tears evaporate, Leaving only charcoal to defend - Finally I understand the feelings of the few, Ashes and diamonds, foe and friend, we were all equal in the end." -Waters
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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #19 - Jun 20^th, 2012 at 6:17am	Print Post
	Quote: Man, so lucky that my wife sleeps more than 10 hours a day. She must need the beauty sleep.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Fuck Off The Big Fuck Offline My favorite word is Fuck. Fuck, fuck, fuck. Posts: 1284 Location: Fuckville Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #20 - Jun 20^th, 2012 at 8:22am	Print Post
	The better players don't need to tell anyone how uberz they are. Some players do get better with time, I'm one of those, but there are still better players than me and some haven't been around as long as me.
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Merrick DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 456 Joined: Nov 29^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #21 - Jun 20^th, 2012 at 8:25am	Print Post
	Fuck Off wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 8:22am: The better players don't need to tell anyone how uberz they are. Most of the players, be they crappy, mediocre, or truly incredible, don't need to tell anyone how great they are. Some people, no matter their skill level, cannot seem to get by for a single day without crowing about themselves.


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scraap Ex Member	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #22 - Jun 20^th, 2012 at 8:28am	Print Post
	Fuck Off wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 8:22am: The better players don't need to tell anyone how uberz they are. Some players do get better with time, I'm one of those, but there are still better players than me and some haven't been around as long as me. Pretty much why I've adopted the philosophy of: "You think you can, go ahead, but I reserve the right to point and laugh if you ding." whenever I slap together a pug.


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Glenalth Puppy Farmer Offline Not banned, just bored Posts: 1602 Location: Albuquerque Joined: Sep 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #23 - Jun 20^th, 2012 at 12:19pm	Print Post
	Merrick wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 8:25am: Some people, no matter their skill level, cannot seem to get by for a single day without crowing about themselves. Fucking hell. I hate those people. Especially the non-stop chatterboxes that just won't shut up about how awesome their character is. I've never had even one of these people be able to back it up when things go pear shaped.


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4339 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Vet Noobs Reply #24 - Jun 21^st, 2012 at 9:42am	Print Post
	http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=379197

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