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GimpyPaw wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 11:00pm:


Aside from Abbot, is there a raid that's even a tiny bit difficult to flag for?

Sigil piece drop rates were raised with all the other orchard drop rates, I always have minimum one sigil left over to take into the next life. Raid flagging is all of 20 extra mins (4x5 mins) on top of the Litany farming you're probably doing anyway.

Also, lol at at all the people in that going "no big deal, it's gotta be a test server only thing".

You pretty much have to do the flagging anyway for XP if you are on a TR, so that's not even that big of a deal.  What else are you gonna do for XP at level 17 if not Litany?

Honestly I don't give a fuck. Your ability to run a raid  six or sixty times a week doesn't bother me a bit. Maybe less shitty geared PUGs as a positive. Honestly getting twenty Shroud completions in less time would be a nice investment for a toon you have extensive TR plans for. You getting a Litany or Torc more quickly  doesn't make a fuck to me.

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I doubt it, how many people are really going to throw the RL money at Turbine to run raids often enough for it to matter? People will use it occasionally as a convenience.

Grace wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 1:20am:


I've known people who chug store pots instead of trying to conserve sp. I can easily see them hunkering down and running a raid 20 times in 3 days, especially if it only costs 95 tp a pop.

I'm not sure it'll happen often enough to justify it, but turbine has done plenty of stuff without any form of justification.

Calvet wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 2:45am:


I won't complain so long as it is fun. Like Lob fun, or the new raid fun (the first time through was a blast.)

Epoch wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 4:02am:


I'm gonna go ahead and assume you ran citw on a caster, yes?

Eta: Turbine is the reason we get shitty raids. That, and people on ddo are too fucking dumb to actually run a true mmo raid. Ddo raids are easy as shit. There's even built in voice chat, which is sooooooooo not the norm.

Smrti wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 4:12am:


Nope, a melee.  It was a boring and stupid raid.  This is excluding the stupid portal keepers.

I have played other mmos.  The thing is, all the raiders have mumble, teamspeak, and ventrillo installed.  That way, once again, everyone is able to communicate just like in ddo for raids.  The thing is, the raids in other mmos are fucking retarded.  The vast majority of the bosses are so fucking scripted, it is easy as shit.  The only thing you are doing, is finding out what the script is by wiping several times.  Granted, if you have a few noobs that cannot learn, it is detrimental.  This is why, in endgame raids on other mmos, noobs aren't allowed.

I just say "nty".  If I feel like being an ass I say, "When the raid drops anything useful for me, I will consider the option of pugging it with people who send random tells to me when I am in a quest".