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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #25 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:49am	Print Post
	Feklar wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:42am: Have you guys even been PLAYing the game these past few weeks??? It's not seals or shards or prefixes or two locked doors or mobs in walls or falling damage. 10 minutes hovering in midair is what's breaking the game. ...but don't worry they performing maintenance on the billing system so they will get their money on time.

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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JDollar Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Swarthy as fuck Posts: 5380 Location: Uttering "death threats"! Joined: Jun 24^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #26 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:55am	Print Post
	Eladiun wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:49am: ...but don't worry they performing maintenance on the billing system so they will get their money on time. This is why its hard to take the whiny bitches seriously. Bitching for the sake of bitching, makes you a bitch. Arent you in a computer related industry you should understand the whole unrelated to game issue updating billing (possible Turbine changing service providers) is to game performance or Tolero's stupid update videos?

	Quote: J$ can take great pride that I think he's too revolting for words and will probably post "gtg cat on fire" if he joins a group I'm in. Quote: JD is easily the most genuinely mean person I've known Quote: SNAP!� Point for the Canadian! notajedi wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 6:47pm: JonnyD has had way better exploits.
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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #27 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:55am	Print Post
	JDollar wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:55am: This is why its hard to take the whiny bitches seriously. Bitching for the sake of bitching, makes you a bitch. Arent you in a computer related industry you should understand the whole unrelated to game issue updating billing (possible Turbine changing service providers) is to game performance or Tolero's stupid update videos? It was a joke.

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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Tobril Honourary Australian Offline Hi Welcome Posts: 744 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #28 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:56am	Print Post
	JDollar wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:47am: he needs seals... Daddy needs more shards.� People can make their own macro for the pre farming. Perhaps you don't understand how loot whoring works...
	« Last Edit: Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:56am by Tobril »

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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #29 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:57am	Print Post
	Eladiun wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:55am: It was a joke. If you have watched any John Candy movies, you would understand that Canadians don't do humor well.
	« Last Edit: Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:57am by stainer »
	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #30 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:59am	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:57am: If you have watched any John Candy movies, you would understand that Canadians don't do humor well. What about Bob and Doug McKenzie? ...Canadians also appear to be Turbine rumpswabs.

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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JDollar Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Swarthy as fuck Posts: 5380 Location: Uttering "death threats"! Joined: Jun 24^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #31 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:59am	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:57am: If you have watched any John Candy movies, you would understand that Canadians don't do humor well. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109370/

	Quote: J$ can take great pride that I think he's too revolting for words and will probably post "gtg cat on fire" if he joins a group I'm in. Quote: JD is easily the most genuinely mean person I've known Quote: SNAP!� Point for the Canadian! notajedi wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 6:47pm: JonnyD has had way better exploits.
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JDollar Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Swarthy as fuck Posts: 5380 Location: Uttering "death threats"! Joined: Jun 24^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #32 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:00pm	Print Post
	also "Those arent pillows!"

	Quote: J$ can take great pride that I think he's too revolting for words and will probably post "gtg cat on fire" if he joins a group I'm in. Quote: JD is easily the most genuinely mean person I've known Quote: SNAP!� Point for the Canadian! notajedi wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 6:47pm: JonnyD has had way better exploits.
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LordPiglet Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 660 Location: H-Town Joined: Jan 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #33 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:09pm	Print Post
	cdr wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:29am: I had 4 torc shards, still no seals... I pulled shards for the torc, but I didn't have a caster at the time, so they went up for roll.� Now my envoker has 2 green blades and 2 torcs so I can epic one of each, but I can't pull what I need. Tobril wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:13am: I can't help it. Stockholm syndrome kicked in about a year ago. If only I could quit you DQ... DQ is probably my favorite raid. I think I burned myself out a bit on it by doing raid bypasses to get my envokers gear. I definitely have more epic DQ stuff then any other raid though.
	« Last Edit: Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:13pm by LordPiglet »

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Combat Wombat Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 334 Joined: Aug 28^th, 2010	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #34 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 1:40pm	Print Post
	JDollar wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:55am: This is why its hard to take the whiny bitches seriously. Bitching for the sake of bitching, makes you a bitch. Arent you in a computer related industry you should understand the whole unrelated to game issue updating billing (possible Turbine changing service providers) is to game performance or Tolero's stupid update videos? I am in a computer related industry and you know what would happen if we had 12 hour downtime on an entire production environment? They would probly fire all of us. Hell 12 minutes would be oh shit territory. The crap Turbine and other MMO companies get away with is horrifying.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #35 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 1:51pm	Print Post
	On the topic of unbound seals and shards: I agree. Make them unbound or give us a 3 for 1 trade in vendor like the DQ scrolls. Later, add commendation based upgrades to the Level 20 epic items and make the commendations drop in the raid/end quest of each chain. Base Epic can be raised to 23/24/25 just like the other stuff. Many people are avoiding old epics due to the grind vs. new gear. It's not that there isn't some decent, useful stuff. But the juice isn't worth the squeeze with a very few exceptions.


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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #36 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 1:51pm	Print Post
	It's a game. It does not compare to downtime on a business product for obvious reasons.

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JDollar Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Swarthy as fuck Posts: 5380 Location: Uttering "death threats"! Joined: Jun 24^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #37 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 1:56pm	Print Post
	Combat Wombat wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 1:40pm: I am in a computer related industry and you know what would happen if we had 12 hour downtime on an entire production environment? They would probly fire all of us. Hell 12 minutes would be oh shit territory. The crap Turbine and other MMO companies get away with is horrifying. industry standards, what can I say. You think Turbine or other MMO companies want the down time? Especially when they have a microtransaction means of generating revenue... how much money do you think they lose in a 12 hour downtime?

	Quote: J$ can take great pride that I think he's too revolting for words and will probably post "gtg cat on fire" if he joins a group I'm in. Quote: JD is easily the most genuinely mean person I've known Quote: SNAP!� Point for the Canadian! notajedi wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 6:47pm: JonnyD has had way better exploits.
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Combat Wombat Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 334 Joined: Aug 28^th, 2010	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #38 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 2:23pm	Print Post
	Maxwell Edison wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 1:51pm: It's a game.� It does not compare to downtime on a business product for obvious reasons. What would those be? You have customers paying for a business service just like we pay for DDO. Why should there be no downtime in one and extensive downtime in the other? Give me one good reason.


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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #39 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 2:27pm	Print Post
	One is being used by a business to make or provide goods and services which a third party is paying for and has a real financial or legal repercussions and liabilities, and the other is used to waste time and fill the void in your empty and meaningless life.

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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #40 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 2:57pm	Print Post
	It's probably more important for a gaming company... Downtime is time when your customer is not playing your game. They are doing something else. possibly trying another game. If they find a new drug, they might stop using your drug.

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #41 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 2:59pm	Print Post
	12 hrs downtime might be a net positive for Turbine. It is 12 hrs that the game won't lag or crash and run off paying customers.

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #42 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 3:16pm	Print Post
	JDollar wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 1:56pm: industry standards, what can I say. You think Turbine or other MMO companies want the down time? Especially when they have a microtransaction means of generating revenue... how much money do you think they lose in a 12 hour downtime? It was interesting to me that Amazon found that they lost pretty much zero money from downtime, no matter how long - people just bought stuff later. DDO isn't the same since a lot of it is consumables used during play time, but I wouldn't be surprised if some amount is just delayed rather than lost.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #43 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 6:36pm	Print Post
	Combat Wombat wrote on Feb 10^th, 2013 at 6:59pm: Fuck that you shits are thinking to small. We need all epics redone to new standard gianthold has set and then a npc to exchange shards, seals, scrolls for new commendations for the appropriate redone epic. Lower your expectations.


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mystafyi Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 836 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #44 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 7:45pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 2:59pm: 12 hrs downtime might be a net positive for Turbine. It is 12 hrs that the game won't lag or crash and run off paying customers. truth.


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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #45 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 7:52pm	Print Post
	JDollar wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:00pm: also "Those arent pillows!" /Signed. A classic.

	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Nothingtoseehere Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 110 Joined: Jan 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #46 - Feb 14^th, 2013 at 6:57am	Print Post
	There is something quite satisfying about finally making an old school Epic item. Knowing that you worked to get it instead of just trading for it or buying it off the AH feels great when it's finally done. The main problem is that most of the old epic items are out of date now and nowhere near as good as the new stuff. Especially when they totally nerfed half of it (ring of elemental essences, mask of comedy, etc).


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JDollar Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Swarthy as fuck Posts: 5380 Location: Uttering "death threats"! Joined: Jun 24^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #47 - Feb 14^th, 2013 at 7:24am	Print Post
	Nothingtoseehere wrote on Feb 14^th, 2013 at 6:57am: There is something quite satisfying about finally making an old school Epic item. Knowing that you worked to get it instead of just trading for it or buying it off the AH feels great when it's finally done. The main problem is that most of the old epic items are out of date now and nowhere near as good as the new stuff. Especially when they totally nerfed half of it (ring of elemental essences, mask of comedy, etc). broke my heart when i came back from a break and my E mask of comedy was junk... I worked really hard grinfing for it, had guildies helping open chests and everything many many chests. But then I fot new gear that was so much better!!

	Quote: J$ can take great pride that I think he's too revolting for words and will probably post "gtg cat on fire" if he joins a group I'm in. Quote: JD is easily the most genuinely mean person I've known Quote: SNAP!� Point for the Canadian! notajedi wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 6:47pm: JonnyD has had way better exploits.
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Ironical the Bionicle Waterworks Kobold Offline RAGE! Posts: 109 Joined: Jun 10^th, 2011	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #48 - Feb 14^th, 2013 at 9:08am	Print Post
	The bandaid was 3:1 scroll exchange for Sands epic gear. Agree that serious revamp needed. Purely from business model, they need to make money from new packs as well as old packs, ie must keep all content relevant or go broke.


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spathic Stocky Greenis Offline Taunting the stupid since before you were born. Posts: 1623 Location: Shenandoah valley Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2012 Gender:	Re: It's past time for unbound seals and shards Reply #49 - Feb 14^th, 2013 at 4:29pm	Print Post
	Ironical the Bionicle wrote on Feb 14^th, 2013 at 9:08am: The bandaid was 3:1 scroll exchange for Sands epic gear.� Agree that serious revamp needed. Purely from business model, they need to make money from new packs as well as old packs, ie must keep all content relevant or go broke. I suspect they have a chart that shows the percent of active accounts that own packs. The lower saturation packs will probably get some loot upgrade love at some point to encourage more purchases.

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