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Some Greater Learning Tomes gone missing
May 22nd, 2013 at 6:01pm
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Some are complaining about missing tomes in the Argo Guild MWC.

Somebody has more info?
  
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Re: Some Greater Learning Tomes gone missing
Reply #1 - May 22nd, 2013 at 6:08pm
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Mine are gone.  It is not just a graphical error. Nothing being applied to xp  either.
  

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Reply #2 - May 22nd, 2013 at 6:12pm
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I've lost mine too, yet to check xp.
  

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Re: Some Greater Learning Tomes gone missing
Reply #3 - May 22nd, 2013 at 10:48pm
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My Greater Tome of Learning icon is missing from my Wizard.  I don't know about the XP since I'm XP capped at level 25 on that character, but it's still another disappointment from Turbine.

I'll go bug report it now.  Oh, wait...
  
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Re: Some Greater Learning Tomes gone missing
Reply #4 - May 23rd, 2013 at 3:07am
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Didn't notice anything, but I logged only long enough to run the two free quests ( read : zerg them ) on elite with one LVL 21 character.
XP were going to be piss poor anyway, and actually I was surprised that they did listen and upped the XPs a bit, and with an Epic Toon, it's epic XPs, so fuck tomes.

  

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Reply #5 - May 23rd, 2013 at 3:13am
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NOTpopejubal wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 10:48pm:
My Greater Tome of Learning icon is missing from my Wizard.  I don't know about the XP since I'm XP capped at level 25 on that character, but it's still another disappointment from Turbine.

I'll go bug report it now.  Oh, wait...



Same here. /rage.
  

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Reply #6 - May 23rd, 2013 at 4:01am
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Now I have discovered a toon where the Tome is missing: it was the one tome I got from the MotU pack.
The other Greater learning tomes that I have are all upgrades, and they are there.

What a fuck up.
  
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Reply #7 - May 23rd, 2013 at 6:30am
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Now I have discovered a toon where the Tome is missing: it was the one tome I got from the MotU pack.
The other Greater learning tomes that I have are all upgrades, and they are there.

What a fuck up.


The heroic tome of learning icon disappears when you hit 20 now. It'll be replaced by the icon of a tome of epic XP if you have one, or nothing if you don't.
For characters sub-20, the icon is still there.

The bonus however is supposed to be still there, as long as you're getting heroic XP.
To the poster above, when you tried, was it heroic or epic XP ? remember motu tomes do NOT apply on epic.

That's what i'm understanding from the limited testing and the almost non-existent dev feedback from the forums.
  
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Re: Some Greater Learning Tomes gone missing
Reply #8 - May 23rd, 2013 at 6:42am
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Laraeph wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 6:30am:
The heroic tome of learning icon disappears when you hit 20 now. It'll be replaced by the icon of a tome of epic XP if you have one, or nothing if you don't.
For characters sub-20, the icon is still there.

The bonus however is supposed to be still there, as long as you're getting heroic XP.
To the poster above, when you tried, was it heroic or epic XP ? remember motu tomes do NOT apply on epic.

That's what i'm understanding from the limited testing and the almost non-existent dev feedback from the forums.


Level 9 toon, who previously had a lesser tome of learning does not get any additional bonus when entering heroic quests for the first time.
  

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Reply #9 - May 23rd, 2013 at 6:50am
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Went ahead and logged on some chars I never ever play anymore, and some do have lost their tomes too.
I guess it's a good thing I kept those lesser tomes I got when reincarnating gave you new tomes each time... But I really hope they'll fix that.
  
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Reply #10 - May 23rd, 2013 at 9:10am
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Laraeph wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 6:30am:
That's what i'm understanding from the limited testing and the almost non-existent dev feedback from the forums.


That isn't fair! They may have posted about it somewhere, but with the dev tracker being screwed, who f*cing knows?
  
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Reply #11 - May 23rd, 2013 at 11:21am
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Lost mine too, and no, it's not just a display bug.
  

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Re: Some Greater Learning Tomes gone missing
Reply #12 - May 23rd, 2013 at 11:24am
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Reply #13 - May 23rd, 2013 at 12:55pm
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<rant>

If you'd have asked me three weeks ago, despite everything I'd have said I'd almost certainly buy the expansion, just 'cos.

Now?  No way.  Not unless they fix everything they broke with U18, and then some.  I had just capped a sorc life for the first time literally minutes before the server went down for the update.  I was greatly looking forward to trying the easy-button everyone was talking about.

Hmmm.  At L18, I was doing roughly 20% *more* damage than I'm doing now with full destiny gubbins and all twists.  I'm having to nickle-and-dime shit to death in Shiradi; not my idea of fun.  I'm down about 63 spellpower from where I should be (don't seem to be getting sorc capstone, Shiradi, fey form or implement bonus) and spell crits are completely hosed.

I've also had four quests bug out in 24 hours, which is fun.  That cost me upwards of an hour of XP pots waiting on GM's and/or having to finish out and start again.

I know a lot of people here reached this point some time ago, but I've only just got to the "OK, that's it, I've pretty much had enough now" stage.  I wasn't playing a great deal, due to life happening as much as the flaws with the game, but this evening will be devoted to downloading NWO.

Of course, my decision to not purchase the expansion is assisted somewhat by the fact that it's a steaming pile of crap.  Cosmetics?  Meh.  Owlbear?  That would be the only compelling bit and it's totally useless by all accounts.  Epic XP tome?  Oo, goody!  No, wait, I have all my destinies capped on three toons already and have no plans to bother with any more.

At least the skill tomes would help with all those checks I was faili...  no, wait, I'm not actually having problems with skills on any toon I care about.

Never mind.  Access to the new raid will make it all worthwhile, except there probably isn't one.  And, just to keep vaguely on-topic, all of my greater tomes of learning have gone, and the bug reporting tool is down.

The forums are gefucken so I can't even find out what the devs are saying, and every build I have is scheduled to be nerfed into bite-sized chunks in the overly-restrictive and ill-conceived enhancement pass.  The only conclusion I can draw is that at some point in the last six months they've hired the King Midas of Crap to work on the game, and everything he touches turns instantly to shit.

</rant>

EDIT:  And Iconic Heroes look totally fucking worthless.  And the guy on the new splash screen is holding a torch in his on-hand and a longsword in his off-hand, so he's too gimpy to be on my monitor.

No, he's not left-handed; nobody in DDO is.
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Re: Some Greater Learning Tomes gone missing
Reply #14 - May 23rd, 2013 at 1:05pm
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Persiflage wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 12:55pm:
The only conclusion I can draw is that at some point in the last six months they've hired the King Midas of Crap to work on the game, and everything he touches turns instantly to shit.

F_o_S was hired more than six months ago.
  

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Reply #15 - May 23rd, 2013 at 1:06pm
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Persiflage wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 12:55pm:
<rant>
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</rant>

EDIT:  And Iconic Heroes look totally fucking worthless.  And the guy on the new splash screen is holding a torch in his on-hand and a longsword in his off-hand, so he's too gimpy to be on my monitor.

No, he's not left-handed; nobody in DDO is.



Cry me a river...  My armor skins are gone.  And you think you have problems...  Perspective, people... 

  

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Reply #16 - May 23rd, 2013 at 1:06pm
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It's okay, mate.  This is a safe place... relatively speaking.
  

                                                                      
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Reply #17 - May 23rd, 2013 at 6:59pm
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Maxwell Edison wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 1:06pm:
It's okay, mate.  This is a safe place... relatively speaking.


And when the Vault is a relatively safe place, you gotta ask yourself just how badly the rest of the world has gone to shit.

Someone make the bad things go away.
  

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Reply #18 - May 23rd, 2013 at 9:33pm
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Persiflage wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 12:55pm:
<rant>

If you'd have asked me three weeks ago, despite everything I'd have said I'd almost certainly buy the expansion, just 'cos.

Now?  No way.  Not unless they fix everything they broke with U18, and then some.  I had just capped a sorc life for the first time literally minutes before the server went down for the update.  I was greatly looking forward to trying the easy-button everyone was talking about.

Hmmm.  At L18, I was doing roughly 20% *more* damage than I'm doing now with full destiny gubbins and all twists.  I'm having to nickle-and-dime shit to death in Shiradi; not my idea of fun.  I'm down about 63 spellpower from where I should be (don't seem to be getting sorc capstone, Shiradi, fey form or implement bonus) and spell crits are completely hosed.

I've also had four quests bug out in 24 hours, which is fun.  That cost me upwards of an hour of XP pots waiting on GM's and/or having to finish out and start again.

I know a lot of people here reached this point some time ago, but I've only just got to the "OK, that's it, I've pretty much had enough now" stage.  I wasn't playing a great deal, due to life happening as much as the flaws with the game, but this evening will be devoted to downloading NWO.

Of course, my decision to not purchase the expansion is assisted somewhat by the fact that it's a steaming pile of crap.  Cosmetics?  Meh.  Owlbear?  That would be the only compelling bit and it's totally useless by all accounts.  Epic XP tome?  Oo, goody!  No, wait, I have all my destinies capped on three toons already and have no plans to bother with any more.

At least the skill tomes would help with all those checks I was faili...  no, wait, I'm not actually having problems with skills on any toon I care about.

Never mind.  Access to the new raid will make it all worthwhile, except there probably isn't one.  And, just to keep vaguely on-topic, all of my greater tomes of learning have gone, and the bug reporting tool is down.

The forums are gefucken so I can't even find out what the devs are saying, and every build I have is scheduled to be nerfed into bite-sized chunks in the overly-restrictive and ill-conceived enhancement pass.  The only conclusion I can draw is that at some point in the last six months they've hired the King Midas of Crap to work on the game, and everything he touches turns instantly to shit.

</rant>

EDIT:  And Iconic Heroes look totally fucking worthless.  And the guy on the new splash screen is holding a torch in his on-hand and a longsword in his off-hand, so he's too gimpy to be on my monitor.

No, he's not left-handed; nobody in DDO is.


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Re: Some Greater Learning Tomes gone missing
Reply #19 - May 23rd, 2013 at 10:14pm
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green00_00 wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 9:33pm:
Or maybe you're just a bitch.


How has Stainer missed you on his list so far?  WTH!
  

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Reply #20 - May 23rd, 2013 at 10:29pm
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Persiflage wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 12:55pm:
EDIT:  And Iconic Heroes look totally fucking worthless.  And the guy on the new splash screen is holding a torch in his on-hand and a longsword in his off-hand, so he's too gimpy to be on my monitor.

No, he's not left-handed; nobody in DDO is.


That reminds me of my own personal pet peeve in home design/decorating shows.  Sometimes, when you pan across the room, the producer wants to pan the other way.  Instead of recording a second time, they'll just play that clip backwards.  When you record fire, it moves like fire.  When you play a clip backwards and the clip has a recording of fire in it, I experience a spasm of anger as I see the perverse, anti-fire motions that are an affront to god and nature.
  
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Reply #21 - May 24th, 2013 at 3:49am
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green00_00 wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 9:33pm:
Or maybe you're just a bitch.


When I want your opinion, I'll...

Actually, no, there is no conceivable set of circumstances in which I or any other sentient being would want your opinion.  Having you reply to a thread is like clicking the Daily Dice Roll and getting the message "You receive a String of Prayer Beads":  there is no plausible way it's ever going to be anything more than a mildly disappointing irrelevance.
  

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Reply #22 - May 24th, 2013 at 7:22am
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Persiflage wrote on May 24th, 2013 at 3:49am:
When I want your opinion, I'll...

Actually, no, there is no conceivable set of circumstances in which I or any other sentient being would want your opinion.  Having you reply to a thread is like clicking the Daily Dice Roll and getting the message "You receive a String of Prayer Beads":  there is no plausible way it's ever going to be anything more than a mildly disappointing irrelevance.


I think that sums it up nicely.
  
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Reply #23 - May 25th, 2013 at 5:32am
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Maxwell Edison wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 11:24am:
I didn't leave DDO.  DDO left me.


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Reply #24 - May 25th, 2013 at 8:50am
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For the under L20 characters in my guild the tomes are working as advertised... also applying the bonuses in XP list!
  
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