Shared my thoughts already.

It will end up breaking six unrelated things. It will remain uncompleted.

Who even gives a shit about stealth anyway? As long as invis works as it does now, stealth can EAD. I only stealth to assassinate. And jump -> stealth -> assassinate -> tumble out of stealth works like a fucking champ. As long as I don't have aggro I can assassinate just fine in the middle of a shitstorm.

Thanks for giving us shit that nobody cares about. That's really awesome of you.

(warning - part-time flower sniffer here)

I can't say that I fully agree with your comment over on the other forums, rest. I'd like to have sneaking become a viable option. Too bad that in the past year or so, some recent stealth-friendly quests got changed back to pure hack'n'slash by requiring a certain number of kills. I can't remember which ones were affected, but the ability to do more quests without a single kill would be nice.

As for crafting, probably different people involved, so no point in railing about allocation of resources. The state of crafting should be laid at the feet of the producers and managers, not the devs.

It looks like he's trying to untangle the feather_of_sun'ed, crufty mess of inconsistency that has built up over the years in the game engine. If so, that could be a really good thing even for people who rarely use stealth.

Of course, it all depends on the delivery. It would be nice if Turbine had a better track record on completing things. Makes it kind of hard to cheer the guy on and give him some encouragement.

Kimberlite wrote on Jun 25^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:



I suspect some QA Kobolds, they probably replaced the coffee in the coffee machine by some kind of ground mushrooms.

( as we all know that everything in DDO is related to mushrooms one way or another, even doors )

The problem in Stealthy repos is the fact that Stealth is feather_of_sun'ed when you trigger doors... and you then aggro all the kobolds in range.

If he can make it so that we can break aggro when we go stealthy then I'm all for it.

I had built my virtuoso bard around the fact that with stealth she could go right in front of the mob and charm them... but it's not viable as things are... maybe it will become viable.

I would really like to give a crap aabout stealth.  I want stealth to be a viable option for characters who are good at stealth (through whatever metthod).  Since Turbine killed stealth in many of their quests in an effort to stop zerging (and it didn't work), any changes to stealth don't matter except in how they fuck over Rogues who are trying to assassinate.

Maybe if you could open doors while stealthed and keep the stealth.  No way that's going to happen, though.

well if at least he managed to get the Earth Ellies to stop hitting you from the other end of the map when they have aggro, I'm for it.

This DEV sounds intelligent.  It took him a  year to get comfortable in the code.  He understood how it was broken.

My only concern is what will be broken after a supposed fix is in place.  Some items he mentioned did not give me the warm fuzzies because of Turbine's past "feature enhancements because they certainly cannot be called bugs otherwise that would be admitting a failure."

NOTpopejubal wrote on Jun 26^th, 2013 at 8:02am:


I'd be happy if wraith form prevented tremor sense checks.

This will make griefing afk people easier. Grab a bunch of aggro, bring it to them, sneak away.

Luxgolg wrote on Jun 26^th, 2013 at 9:15am:



Well since two weeks ago they are trying very hard at changing the spots of the leopards, we can at least give them the benefit of the doubt. 

Flav wrote on Jun 26^th, 2013 at 10:46am:


Like in 2010 with Artys and Cannith crafting? Handwraps? Driuds? WF? No.

I'm going to try this new game coming out soon called DDO. Every month or two, its like playing a new game :p

Flav wrote on Jun 26^th, 2013 at 3:02am:


OG.  You just opened the window for them to re-enable the old "earthgrabbed from inside the quest when you're in house K" bug.