tachyon wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 5:07pm:


In a week... That's going to be a lot of plat.

Make sure you have a supply of crafting XP pots, either from House Cannith favor or from challenge farming.

Figure out how much you are willing to spend per greater essence, then buy every cheap thing on the AH that is likely to decon into enough essences to still be under that number.

If you want to reset your recipe XPs to get past some of the higher levels, TR to reset all of your crafted shard totals to get more XP.

Otherwise, it's just going to be bouncing between the bound/unbound crafting machines crafting whatever recipes give you the best xp to essence spent ratio.



There is a guide website that lives on someone's home computer and is occasionally up and running ( http://cannith-crafting.dyndns-web.com/crafting_tool.html ). You enter in your level and it tells you the most efficient way to level up from there.  If that website is ever up, it may help a lot.

Here's some example output from the site for leveling Arcane from 1 to 25...

COLUMN DESCRIPTIONS
[Adjusted Level For Successive Crafting] [Name] [Bound or Unbound]...
XP:[Base XP] [Adjusted Success XP] [Running Total XP]...
[Chance of Successfully Crafting]...
Cost:[Success Essense Cost] [Avg. With Fails Essense Cost] [Running Total Essense Cost, from Avg]...
[Essense Type Needed]

Regrind:false
20% Success Boost:false
25% Bonus XP Elixer:false

Level=1 at 0XP
  [9]Improved Reconstruction I (B)                    XP:10 17 17      0.60 Cost:4 5 5 Arcane
New Level=2 at 12XP
  [9]Blood (B)                                        XP:10 15 32      0.65 Cost:4 5 5 Body
New Level=3 at 26XP
  [8]Blood (B)                                        XP:10 13 45      0.75 Cost:4 5 10 Body
New Level=4 at 41XP
  [8]Improved Reconstruction I (B)                    XP:10 13 58      0.80 Cost:4 5 10 Arcane
  [8]Improved Impulse I (B)                           XP:10 13 70      0.80 Cost:4 5 14 Arcane
New Level=5 at 58XP
  [8]Enchantment Save +1 (B)                          XP:10 12 82      0.85 Cost:4 4 4 Mind
New Level=6 at 76XP
  [7]Enchantment Save +1 (B)                          XP:10 11 93      0.95 Cost:4 4 8 Mind
  [7]Improved Impulse I (B)                           XP:10 11 103     0.95 Cost:4 4 18 Arcane
New Level=7 at 96XP
  [17]Enchantment Save +2 (B)                         XP:17 34 137     0.50 Cost:9 12 20 Mind
New Level=8 at 117XP
  [16]Enchantment Save +2 (B)                         XP:16 27 164     0.60 Cost:9 11 31 Mind
New Level=9 at 140XP
  [15]Enchantment Save +2 (B)                         XP:15 21 185     0.70 Cost:9 10 42 Mind
New Level=10 at 164XP
  [20]Fortitude Save +2 (B)                           XP:20 40 225     0.50 Cost:9 12 22 Body
New Level=11 at 190XP
New Level=12 at 220XP
  [20]Will Save +2 (B)                                XP:20 33 259     0.60 Cost:9 11 53 Mind
New Level=13 at 254XP
  [19]Will Save +2 (B)                                XP:19 27 286     0.70 Cost:9 10 63 Mind
  [19]Fortitude Save +2 (B)                           XP:19 27 313     0.70 Cost:9 10 32 Body
New Level=14 at 293XP
  [18]Fortitude Save +2 (B)                           XP:18 23 335     0.80 Cost:9 10 42 Body
  [18]Will Save +2 (B)                                XP:18 23 358     0.80 Cost:9 10 73 Mind
New Level=15 at 337XP
  [17]Will Save +2 (B)                                XP:17 19 377     0.90 Cost:9 9 82 Mind
  [17]Fortitude Save +2 (B)                           XP:17 19 396     0.90 Cost:9 9 51 Body
New Level=16 at 387XP
  [16]Fortitude Save +2 (B)                           XP:16 16 412     1.00 Cost:9 9 60 Body
  [16]Will Save +2 (B)                                XP:16 16 428     1.00 Cost:9 9 91 Mind
  [25]Charisma +1 (ub)                                XP:25 45 473     0.55 Cost:19 27 118 Mind
New Level=17 at 443XP
  [25]Dexterity +1 (ub)                               XP:25 42 515     0.60 Cost:19 25 85 Body
New Level=18 at 505XP
  [25]Wisdom +1 (ub)                                  XP:25 38 553     0.65 Cost:19 24 142 Mind
  [25]Intelligence +1 (ub)                            XP:25 38 592     0.65 Cost:19 24 166 Mind
New Level=19 at 573XP
  [25]Constitution +1 (ub)                            XP:25 36 627     0.70 Cost:19 23 109 Body
  [25]Strength +1 (ub)                                XP:25 36 663     0.70 Cost:19 23 132 Body
New Level=20 at 648XP
  [30]Lesser Human Bane (ub)                          XP:30 60 723     0.50 Cost:19 29 160 Body
  [30]Lesser Giant Bane (ub)                          XP:30 60 783     0.50 Cost:19 29 47 Arcane
New Level=21 at 730XP
  [29]Lesser Giant Bane (ub)                          XP:29 48 832     0.60 Cost:19 25 72 Arcane
New Level=22 at 819XP
  [29]Lesser Human Bane (ub)                          XP:29 45 876     0.65 Cost:19 24 184 Body
  [28]Lesser Human Bane (ub)                          XP:28 40 916     0.70 Cost:19 23 207 Body
New Level=23 at 915XP
  [28]Lesser Giant Bane (ub)                          XP:28 37 953     0.75 Cost:19 22 94 Arcane
  [27]Lesser Giant Bane (ub)                          XP:27 34 987     0.80 Cost:19 21 116 Arcane
  [27]Lesser Human Bane (ub)                          XP:27 34 1021    0.80 Cost:19 21 229 Body
New Level=24 at 1019XP
  [34]Enchantment Save +2 (ub)                        XP:34 68 1089    0.50 Cost:19 29 195 Mind
  [33]Enchantment Save +2 (ub)                        XP:33 60 1149    0.55 Cost:19 27 221 Mind
New Level=25 at 1131XP
  [32]Enchantment Save +2 (ub)                        XP:32 49 1198    0.65 Cost:19 24 246 Mind
  [31]Enchantment Save +2 (ub)                        XP:31 44 1242    0.70 Cost:19 23 269 Mind
  [30]Enchantment Save +2 (ub)                        XP:30 40 1282    0.75 Cost:19 22 291 Mind
New Level=26 at 1252XP
 

cdr wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 8:00pm:


Yeah, but that only works for more than a few levels if you are serial TR'ing.

Also, get auto-clicker or earn Carpal Tunnel syndrome 

tachyon wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:36pm:


If you know this much about them, then you know enough to figure it out from here.

I would say more but I don't want it turbined as it benefits players.

I really wish vials stacked higher than they do though.

Persiflage wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2013 at 9:07am:


Masterfully Crafted ML13 +7 Stat gear FTW!!!  Honestly I don't expect Cannith Crafting to get any attention or update.
I suspect the dev that put it all together is no longer with Turbine (or Feather the Suck became his boss)

Taking into consideration ...
-Nerfs to some recipes (hairy eyeball toward Superior Stability and Attack Bonus +4)
-Augment Slots,
-Nerf's and outright destruction of Risia Recipes (Sup Glaciation IX removed from ML8 scepter you fucker)

It seems that Feather the Shit is out to break or nerf to obsolescence ANYTHING he didn't have his Pretentious Douchy Hipster hands in creating.

I'd /sign for Cannith Crafting Update but would rather it be forgotten lest it be nerfed to oblivion.

Quote:


Nice, thanks for the tip.  I wish I'd known about it a long, long time ago, but thanks anyway 

Honestly, I'd advise anyone not to make the effort any more.  The only thing Cannith Crafting still had going for it was the flexible shard thing, and now you can get almost anything in almost any spot from lootgen - with a lower ML and higher value than from crafting - it's barely worth using even when you've already got it capped.  It's so not worth the time to cap it these days.

Well, not apart from fight club, but they'll catch onto that eventually.

Sitting at 143/143/143 currently.  Happy to be done grinding for now.

an additional tip for all human crafters: use dragonmark of making in combination with vials... and reincarnation

for example:
vials until level 56-57
swap feat to get dragonmark =>lvl 60
vials until level 66-67
get lesser dragonmark enhancement for +3 levels =>lvl 70
vials until 76
get greater dm enhancement =>  lvl 80
vials until 85

reincarnate => 75... and start again

My method works best if you got some spare hearts lying around, or you're ready to TR.

Use crafting xp pots.

Crude vials, until you can't get XP any more, and can't make the next tier of bound or unbound shards of potential.   

Then sort the shard making machine by XP and try to make all the things that give you more than 150xp (I try to aim for 200), and cost the least ingredients.  Check the unbound shard making machine too.

You get extra XP for crafting above your level, but you have a higher failure rate.

If you didn't dupe your mats, then don't go too crazy.

Now do a lesser reincarnation. 

This will reset the bonus XP available for crafting above your level.

So, go back to using Crude vials.
Once you can't get XP for making bound shards, check the unbound machine.
If you still can't make unbound shards of potential, grind some stuff using normal mats, if you got some.
Start making unbound shards of potential, or skip to the next step if you still can't.

Do a Lesser or a TR, when you can, and start over with the crafting.

While waiting for LR timers, do some favor grinding and deconstruct everything.

Of course, you can buy success rate boosters and mats from the store if you want.  But I think it's more fun when you don't pay.