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Ok seriously, tell me why NW is better than DDO
Jul 10th, 2013 at 10:30am
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So, I'm thinking of checking it out. But, can I get some real info from people who have played it? What's better/significantly different?

Is DDO better in any way still?

I'm looking for real stuphs, not really the "because Feather of the Sun" snark.

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Re: Ok seriously, tell me why NW is better than DDO
Reply #1 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 10:36am
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It is worth checking out IMO. But they are 2 different games. DDO is niche with character builds. NWO is much more WOWish. NWO felt like an arcade game more than a MMO.
  

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Re: Ok seriously, tell me why NW is better than DDO
Reply #2 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 10:40am
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It's not. It's just different. Personally I'm not sure how much replayability I will find once I cap my first toon, although the Foundry is a pretty cool idea.

Having said that, it costs you absolutely nothing to check it out. I've not spent a penny and haven't found that a limiting factor yet. Sure I don't have a cat or a phoenix pet, but the content is still easily playable. Even if bosses solo on a Devoted Cleric involve all the bloody kiting in the world....
  
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Re: Ok seriously, tell me why NW is better than DDO
Reply #3 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 11:15am
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It reminded me a lot of Dragon Age.  It's much more console fantasy game than anything else.  The build options are just not there.  The play becomes very formulaic and rote.  It's fun for about a month or so, but it gets old quickly. 

The social/grouping system is pretty weak, which limits the social aspects, too. 

Given that it is free, it is worth a look, but I still find DDO more appealing.
  
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Reply #4 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 1:20pm
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It's not better

I capped a couple toons,  then lost interest as there was nothing to do.  It's exploit ridden far more than ddo,  and to make things worse I tried to log in a couple weeks ago and discovered my characters were gone,  not that I was banned just had empty toon slots.  Talking to cs,  I wasn't hacked, and while they didn't say it, if I wasn't hacked the only other option is that they lost data.  A very bad thing for an mmo.
  
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Re: Ok seriously, tell me why NW is better than DDO
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games good not great.  Ive capped my cleric and gotten a 9k GS, so running the TierII Epics currently.  The T2s are alot more fun the most of the other boss fights in the game, but in general the end game is lacking and small.

That said, ive had alot of fun with it, and only dropped $10 on it
  
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Re: Ok seriously, tell me why NW is better than DDO
Reply #6 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 2:27pm
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Another point is that the game is too easy.  You can cap in a matter of a few weeks, gear in a few more.  After that, the toon is basically done.  Just like in DDO pre-TR, at this point you are rolling a new character if you want to keep playing and have anything to do. 

With only 5 classes (3 of which are even fun at end game) and basically no build variation in each class, you run out of stuff to do pretty quick.  Since race has little to no impact on game play, they either have to release new classes, make the game tougher, or do something to extend the game play.
  
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Re: Ok seriously, tell me why NW is better than DDO
Reply #7 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 3:04pm
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Well, it is like three weeks after going live in a F2P game.  Cant really compare that to a 7-10 year old game. 

They are releasing 2 new classes shortly (ranger and warlock), unlocking a race (drow, and maybe a new race), a 20v20 raid, Fury of the Feywild expansion, as well as a 'Campaign System' this summer. There as been talk about a new PvP mode.  Not to mention the 100s of new quests with the foundry.
  
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Re: Ok seriously, tell me why NW is better than DDO
Reply #8 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 3:09pm
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How's the combat?  Is it more active, like DDO, or click and wait, like WOW?
  
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it's active sort of,  while you perform what ever attack animation you are doing you are rooted in place.  So sort of a hybrid
  
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Re: Ok seriously, tell me why NW is better than DDO
Reply #10 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 4:56pm
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It's free, just download the crap and try the first 15 levels, it's all the same till you reach cap, pvp is full of bots and bosses all use the same mechanic which is adds, adds and more adds.

Oh in guantlegrym you just get a premade group and spawn camp the hell out of the other team.

DDO may be having problems lately but NW in no way deserves the DnD logo.

On the other hand if you liked daggerdale you may like NW.
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Re: Ok seriously, tell me why NW is better than DDO
Reply #11 - Jul 10th, 2013 at 6:25pm
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Really, I wish they'd made it a console game instead of an MMO.  Scrap the fetch quests for some story focused missions.  Have a separate PVP system with Mass Effect 3 type leveling.  And, if the development budget allows, a henchman system which would allow hot swapping between bots and players for non-limiting co-op.

I'd gladly drop $60 on that and probably any DLC that comes down the pike.
  

                                                                      
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Re: Ok seriously, tell me why NW is better than DDO
Reply #12 - Jul 13th, 2013 at 3:42am
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livefreeordie wrote on Jul 10th, 2013 at 3:04pm:
Well, it is like three weeks after going live in a F2P game.  Cant really compare that to a 7-10 year old game. 

Not to mention the 100s of new quests with the foundry.

You can compare: It is a totally different engine... unless they totally revamp it, they will remain different and no where near DnD. 

It isn't like DnD except in names and stories. You are limited to only a couple of actions that aren't DnD-like and you have a charge you can build up to do other actions.

With Foundry, you have a lot more dungeons - most scale to whatever level you currently are - but there are limits to what you can create since the objects are limited. The best thing would be story lines and the fact that you have more creative people doing dungeons and pumping them out.
  
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Re: Ok seriously, tell me why NW is better than DDO
Reply #13 - Jul 21st, 2013 at 3:13pm
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Meat-Head wrote on Jul 10th, 2013 at 10:30am:
So, I'm thinking of checking it out. But, can I get some real info from people who have played it? What's better/significantly different?

Is DDO better in any way still?

I'm looking for real stuphs, not really the "because Feather of the Sun" snark.

Whatchu got?

All those that tell you that NW and DDO cant be compared are idiots. OF course they can, they are both computer games so fuck you. Ill give you a straight answer OP.
DDO is better than NW.
  
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Reply #14 - Jul 21st, 2013 at 6:03pm
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They have both good and bad points, so you can't really compare the two.  The most fun part of NWO is probably casual PvP.  It's really easy to get into and it's not super competitive.  End-game PvP is broken though, being extremely gear dependent and full of exploits.  People take it way too seriously.
  
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Re: Ok seriously, tell me why NW is better than DDO
Reply #15 - Jul 26th, 2013 at 8:56am
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AtomicMew wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 6:03pm:
People take it way too seriously. 


Well it's fucking PvP, it has to be taken seriously. We are talking about E-peen here.
  

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Reply #16 - Jul 26th, 2013 at 4:34pm
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AtomicMew wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 6:03pm:
They have both good and bad points, so you can't really compare the two.  The most fun part of NWO is probably casual PvP.  It's really easy to get into and it's not super competitive.  End-game PvP is broken though, being extremely gear dependent and full of exploits.  People take it way too seriously. 


Casual pvp lol. Say rather its pve in the guise of pvp as more often than not you are fighting bots.
  

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I've capped 4 classes and all of the crafting professions.  Meh.  The PvP was fun when you could get up to the enemy team's spawn point.  The PVE was ok, but it gets stale quickly.  I enjoyed it, but it didn't hold my interest for more than a couple of months.
  
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Re: Ok seriously, tell me why NW is better than DDO
Reply #18 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 3:33pm
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Played a couple months, took every class to level cap. The problem for me was that - by design - there's no replay value as you level. Even if you find something you think is interesting (like skirmishes) once you out-level it you're done.

At cap there's gear grinding, a few epic dungeons, and PVP. That's it. None of which really hold my interest.

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It doesn't have ghostbane so it sucks.
  
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Reply #20 - Nov 18th, 2013 at 10:04am
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The only good things about NW: the more recent graphics (capes Cheesy) and the possibility of user-made quests (not that user-made quests are good, but the possibility is cool).

I played NW from beta to 1 month after "open beta" (a.k.a release), getting to level 40 something. The game was very repetitive, no character customization, healers could barely heal themselves, much more P2W and money grab than DDO, lead feet combat ...

Not the DDO replacement I hoped. Very disappointing.
  
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Reply #21 - Nov 30th, 2013 at 5:30pm
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NW is a decent game however it lacks content in a serious way. Very few dungeons to run and even less with relevant loot. If you like PVP in a D&D style it might have more replay value than it did for me.
  
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Re: Ok seriously, tell me why NW is better than DDO
Reply #22 - Dec 2nd, 2013 at 9:57am
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Onceler wrote on Nov 30th, 2013 at 5:30pm:
NW is a decent game however it lacks content in a serious way. Very few dungeons to run and even less with relevant loot. If you like PVP in a D&D style it might have more replay value than it did for me.


Lack of content is something that NW was supposed to never suffer from with the Foundry.  I guess the idea that the developer could get the players to do their work for them (Design content) doesn't work.  Turns out, you still have to develop some content of your own.

DDO was released Feb 28th.  By Halloween (8 months later) they had released 3 major Modules with a raid each and 3 small modules with 3-6 quests each.

NW Online was released June 20th.  So far they have 1 release and 1 planned for December.  They still haven't released a new class (only 5 available). 

I stopped playing after 2 months, but it doesn't sound like it's getting any better.
  
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DiddleDoo wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 10:58am:
It doesn't have ghostbane so it sucks.

But does it have Ghost bane?
  
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Re: Ok seriously, tell me why NW is better than DDO
Reply #24 - Dec 5th, 2013 at 3:18pm
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They released a new class, a ranger - a ranged ranger with no option of twf. Basically, an abomination. I will only play again the day they release warlock. Until then, they can suck it.
  

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