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OnePercenter Advocatus Diaboli Offline Ants Eat Dead Grasshoppers Posts: 9985 Joined: Dec 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #25 - Aug 24^th, 2013 at 10:37am	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 4:58pm: I know the power of Beguile.� I specifically didn't mention it after testing it on Lamannia. The cat is out of the bag with Beguile now.� It works on red named and some purple named like Truthful One and Gianthold Tor bosses. When Iconics can be chosen for a TR race, the optimal version of this build will be Bladeforged.� 6 AP for 25 SP Reconstruct is fucking amazing. Fight club is hard... https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/423647-Beguile?p=5077570&viewfull=1#po...

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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #26 - Aug 24^th, 2013 at 2:11pm	Print Post
	It was even mentioned on lama...and I thought it was stated that the attack speed penalty was supposed to affect reds but not the movement speed...and neither was supposed to affect purple. I.E. They knew about it but didn't change it on initial release. I know if it does get changed the only thing that will happen to my build is that I will reassign 4 ap.


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Saecru Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 12 Joined: Aug 25^th, 2013	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #27 - Aug 25^th, 2013 at 12:58pm	Print Post
	Bladeforged 8 Fighter/6 Monk/6 Paladin - Lawful Good Stats: 16 (+5tome +7level +8item +1exc +2ship +2yugo +5rage +2dreadnaught +12ins +2profane)= 62 Strength 12 (+4tome +8item +1exc +2ship -2stance)= 25 Dexterity 18 (+4tome +10item +1exc +3ins +5rage +2ship +1enh +4stance)= 48 Constitution 12 (+4tome +1 exc+2ship)= 19 Intelligence 06 (+4tome +1 exc+2ship)= 13 Wisdom 14 (+5tome +2ship +2yugo +8item +1exc +2ins)= 34 Charisma Saves: FO/RE/WI 05/05/05 Monk 05/02/02 Paladin 06/02/02 Fighter 00/07/00 Dex 19/00/00 Con 00/00/01 Wis 12/12/12 Cha 04/04/04 GH 02/02/02 GL 04/04/04 Parrying 01/01/01 Alchemical Ritual 00/01/00 Haste 00/01/00 Agility 01/01/01 Ship -4/00/-4 Yugo 08/08/08 Resistance 63/49/48 Total Hit Points: 1060 080 Fighter 060 Paladin 064 Monk 025 Heroic Durability 015 Improved Heroic Durability 010 Argonessen Favor 040 False Life 020 Vitality 476 Constitution 080 Epic 090 Toughness Feat 050 Epic Toughness 050 Legendary Dreadnaught Levelups 1 M (1) Monk: Power Attack, Level: Cleave 4 Balance, 4 Concentration, 2 UMD, 3 Jump, 2 Repair, 1 Tumble 2 M (2) Monk: Toughness 1 Balance, 1 Concentration, .5UMD, 1 Jump, 1 Tumble 3 F (1) Fighter: Weapon Focus: Slashing, Level: Dodge 3 Repair +1 Tomes 4 M (3) 2 Balance, 1 Concentration, 1 UMD +1 Strength levelup 5 F (2) Fighter: Great Cleave 3 Repair 6 P (1) Level: Toughness 1 Concentration, 1 UMD 7 P (2) 3 Concentration, .5UMD +2 Tomes 8 P (3) 1 Concentration, .5UMD, 1 Balance +1 Strength levelup 9 P (4) Level: Improved Crit: Slashing 1 Concentration, .5UMD, 1 Balance 10F (3) 4 Repair 11F (4) Fighter: Weapon Specialization: Slashing 2 Repair, 2 Jump +3 Tomes 12M (4) Level: Quicken 6 Balance 13M (5) 1 Balance, 4 Concentration .5UMD 14M (6) Monk: Deflect Arrows 1 Balance 1 Concentration 2 UMD 15F (5) Level: Master of Forms 4 Repair, .5UMD +4 Tomes 16F (6) Fighter: Brutal Throw 1 Repair, .5UMD, 1.5Balance +1 Strength levelup 17F (7) 1 Repair, .5UMD, 1.5Balance 18F (8) Fighter: Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing, Level: Grandmaster of Forms 1 Repair, .5UMD, 1 Balance, 1 Jump 19P (5) 1 Repair, .5UMD, 1 Balance 20P (6) 1 Repair, 1 Concentration, 1 Balance +1 Strength levelup 21E Level: Overwhelming Crit 22E 23E 24E Level: Epic Toughness +1 Strength levelup 25E 26E Level: Epic Spellpower: Repair 27E Level: Epic Damage Reduction 28E Level: Toughness +1 Strength levelup Enhancements Bladeforged: 17 1 Improved Fort 1 Constitution 1 Improved Fort 2 Mechanist 6 Reconstruct 4 Improved Power Attack 1 Power of the Forge 1 Weapon Attachment Knight of the Chalice: 19 1 Fiendslayer 2 Extra Smite 2 Extra Turning 6 Divine Might 2 Extra Smite 6 Exalted Smite Kensei: 33 1 Kensei Focus: Axes 1 Spiritual Bond 1 Strike With No Thought 6 Extra Action Boost 2 Kensei Weapon Spec 3 Haste Boost 2 Kensei Weapon Spec 2 Kensei Weapon Spec 6 Improved Dodge 2 Weapon Meditation 1 Shattering Strike 2 Kensei Weapon Spec 1 Reed in the Wind 1 Keen Edge 1 Deadly Strike 1 One With The Blade Ninja Spy: 11 1 Ninja Training 1 Ninja Training 1 Shadow Veil 2 Sneak Attack Training 3 Acrobatic 2 Fists of Iron 1 Agility Dodge: 25% 6 Monk 3 Dodge 3 Kensei 3 Ninja Spy 10 Item PRR: 79(89) = ~36%(38%) damage reduction 24 Item 15 Conflux 15 Earth stance 15 Standing in Stone 10 Epic Damage Reduction 10 Power of the Forge (Situational) Reconstruct hits for: 577 Repair: 63 23 Ranks 15 Skill 04 Modifier 08 epic 04 Skill Tome 02 PL:Artificer 02 Luck 04 GH Repair Spell Power: 250 063 Repair 138 Augment 024 Implement 020 Epic Spell Power Repair Amp: 10% 10 Mechanist 150x 3.50x 1.1 = ~577 Weapon Damage: 145 a swing average Cleaver, Hewer of Suffering 054 6[2d8] (2.5base, 1.5dance of flowers, 0.5improved power attack, 1action boost, 0.5weapon attachment) 039 Strength modifier 014 Power Attack 010 Deadly 004 Conflux 006 Kensei 008 Enhancement 002 Weapon Specialization 005 Advancing Blows 003 Battle Meditation Crit Profile: 17-18/x3, 19-20/x7 Smites:� �� 15-18/x5, 19-20/x9 Skills Bal: 49 (23ranks +8epic +4morale +2luck +06dex +3acrobatic +3athletic) Con: 52 (18ranks +8epic +4morale +2luck +19con +1agility) Rep: 62 (23ranks +8epic +4morale +2luck +04int +15augment +4tome, +2PL) Jum: 43 (05ranks +8epic +4morale +2luck +26str) Tum: 27 (02ranks +8epic +4morale +2luck +06dex +3acrobatic) UMD: 40 (11ranks +8epic +4morale +2luck +10cha +1profane, +2tome, +2PL) Gear Weapon: Cleaver, Hewer of Suffering; Red Slot: Repair 134 Quiver: Quiver of Alacrity; 30% striding Trinket: Planar Focus of Prowess; +3 con Belt: Health +10 Belt of Dodge +10% Bracers: Greater Convalescent Bracers of Parrying 8; Colorless Slot: GoTIB Gloves: EE Nether Grasps Chest: Black Dragon Docent; Blue Slot: Heavy Fort Hat: EE Black Dragon; +8 dex; Green Slot: 40HP, Yellow Slot: Vitality +20 Goggles: Deadly of Accuracy/Dream Visor; Yellow Slot: Deathblock Back: EE Jeweled Cloak; Green slot: +8resist, Yellow Slot: +15 Repair Feet: EE Goatskin Boots; Green Slot: Good Luck+2, Colorless Slot: +8 Charisma Neck: Pendant of the Stormreaver; Yellow Slot: +250spell points Ring1: Guardian's Ring; Yellow Slot: Draconic Soul Gem Ring2: EE Ring of the Djinn Carp, just wondering. Would this be anything close to what you have in mind for when you TR to a Bladeforged? Edit: Maybe swap out 2 toughness feats, Brutal Throw and Deflect arrows for the entire THF chain.
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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #28 - Aug 25^th, 2013 at 6:59pm	Print Post
	Glancing Blows are applied to cleaves, so you want the full THF line.� It's the reason for using Cleaver instead of Sireth. Also, MOAR DAMAGE. I'd rather have +2 damage per swing from Improved Power Attack than limited Smite enhancements. I'd also spend 34 in Kensei and take Strength +1, ditching Reed in the Wind as a filler.� You can replace Strength +1 in LD for Crit Damage.
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Saecru Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 12 Joined: Aug 25^th, 2013	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #29 - Aug 25^th, 2013 at 7:44pm	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Aug 25^th, 2013 at 6:59pm: Glancing Blows are applies to cleaves, so you want the full line.� It's the reason for using Cleaver instead of Sireth. I'd rather have +2 damage per swing from Improved Power Attack than limited Smite enhancements. I'd also spend 34 in Kensei and take Strength +1, ditching Reed in the Wind as a filler.� You can replace Strength +1 in LD for Crit Damage. Interesting, will take this into account, thanks.


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #30 - Aug 27^th, 2013 at 3:39pm	Print Post
	With beguile going bye-bye, would you still stick with druid over cleric?


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #31 - Aug 27^th, 2013 at 4:11pm	Print Post
	doublestrike is still sexy.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #32 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 12:25am	Print Post
	cdr wrote on Aug 27^th, 2013 at 3:39pm: With beguile going bye-bye, would you still stick with druid over cleric? 10 uses of 30% Doublestrike and Ram's Might are still good enough reasons to stick with Druid.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #33 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 8:06pm	Print Post
	was gonna do this with my esos kensai (who also has a cleaver) but I'd have to buy 2 alignment changes. might as well just fucking TR


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #34 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 10:20pm	Print Post
	rest wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 8:06pm: was gonna do this with my esos kensai (who also has a cleaver) but I'd have to buy 2 alignment changes. might as well just fucking TR� Two? Alignment tokens are double alignments - eg "alignment change - lawful goodness".


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #35 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 11:50pm	Print Post
	I thought you had to do one step at a time. NG to LG to LN for instance


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #36 - Aug 29^th, 2013 at 12:26am	Print Post
	rest wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 11:50pm: I thought you had to do one step at a time. NG to LG to LN for instance If you can see the token in the store without having the see all items box checked, you can use it.

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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #37 - Aug 29^th, 2013 at 12:28am	Print Post
	rest wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 11:50pm: I thought you had to do one step at a time. NG to LG to LN for instance The only problem should be if you're switching between mutually exclusive alignment classes, which would require 2 LRs (since you can't change alignment on the boat), not 2 alignment changes.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #38 - Aug 29^th, 2013 at 9:22pm	Print Post
	pure fighter so it shouldn't be an issue. nopw i have to decide if i want to LR him or just focus on the other stuff im working on


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fluffi Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 73 Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2011	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #39 - Aug 30^th, 2013 at 8:04am	Print Post
	I made a similar version of this. I had HOrc instead of human (not by choice) and I splashed Cleric instead of druid. Cleric gave me div might (+10 str bonus), +75% scroll mastery, 5min nightshield, and 5 min prot evil
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fluffi Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 73 Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2011	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #40 - Aug 30^th, 2013 at 1:31pm	Print Post
	Div might is insight bonus and not sacred bonus like the toolbar says it is.


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radonek Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 50 Joined: Sep 1^st, 2013	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #41 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 5:21pm	Print Post
	what would you thoughts be on a PDK version of this build? I am still a noob when it comes to creating custome builds but I am trying to learn. I believe PDK has healing amp just like a human does. What would you say the reasons that bladeforged would be better than PDK. I'm not trying to question your thinking, I'm just trying to learn because as i said...im still kind of a noob when it comes to custom builds.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #42 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 5:39pm	Print Post
	bladeforged get cheap reconstruct. self healing ftw


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radonek Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 50 Joined: Sep 1^st, 2013	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #43 - Sep 1^st, 2013 at 5:43pm	Print Post
	so with bladeforged you'd be monk 12 fighter 8 2 pally? nvm i scrolled up and saw the split.
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fluffi Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 73 Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2011	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #44 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 8:42am	Print Post
	I have the build and its awesome. Total destruction even without blitz going. I have a hard time using up all the haste boosts as i have 22 of them. Being HOrc the racial tree has nice dps boost so points are being hard to come by. For this reason, im after drppping druid. Options 3 cleric = crappy healing spells, 75% scoll mastery (4 enh pts) 2 pally = nice bonus to saves 2. Extra monk = fast movement, extra feat (master forms) 2 rogue = 3d6 sneak (need inti tank to use this)


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #45 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 10:19am	Print Post
	The core of the build is 8 Fighter for centered Cleaver and 9 Monk for Imp Evasion/Shadow Veil. The remaining class split don't matter, though I highly recommend something that boosts Positive Spell Power (Ranger + Deepwood Sniper; any divine + Empower Heal Spell). You could go the Bladeforged split: 8 Fighter/6 Monk/6 Paladin. With meaningful saves, Evasion works fine.


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fluffi Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 73 Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2011	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #46 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 1:17pm	Print Post
	Forgot that you need divine spells for emp healing. I think ill do the cleric version for emp healing and 75% scroll mastery for heal scrolling. This uses 4 aps in cleric tree which allows me to get powerattack and thw HOrc enh. The thing is do i go 8/9/3 ftr/mnk/clr for 2nd lvl spells (prob never use them) or 10/9/1 ftr/mnk/clr for bonus fighter feat (quickdraw or stunning blow).


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #47 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 1:36pm	Print Post
	IMO the stuff from druid is better than the scroll mastery from cleric. I'd only consider cleric for Divine Might, but cleric Divine Might is really expensive at 15sp. I can see why most people seem to be going with paladin splashes.


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fluffi Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 73 Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2011	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #48 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 2:59pm	Print Post
	Div might str bonus with 32 Cha gives +8str over +3 item = +4 modifier =+ 6 dmg. HOrc enh = +3 thf +3 powerattack all the time. What else do you get from druid over another 11x30% boosts?


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: U19 THF Cleaver Reply #49 - Sep 7^th, 2013 at 3:14pm	Print Post
	Ram's Might, a free lever puller.


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