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Re: U19 THF Cleaver
Reply #50 - Sep 7th, 2013 at 4:05pm
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Forgot about rams might. Lever puller is a 2tp heirling, so not much with that.

So rams might vs 75% scroll inc =230ish

Decisions, decisions
  
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Re: U19 THF Cleaver
Reply #51 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 12:58am
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Carpone, what is the feasibility of splashing 3 levels of druid for Fatal Harrier?
Are APs too tight for it?
If there is a way to squeeze it in, I'd think its a great DPS addition.
How would you re-arrange the build to include this?
  

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Re: U19 THF Cleaver
Reply #52 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 1:50am
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You'd obviously give up a monk level for it. (fwiw, if I were playing i'd have 9/8/3 build)

There's not a lot of room to drop 5 of his offensive AP, as for the 5 Defensive AP's you'd have to give up.

I'd take them from the human tree.

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(2) healing amp
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Re: U19 THF Cleaver
Reply #53 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 4:22am
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Munkenmo wrote on Sep 9th, 2013 at 1:50am:
You'd obviously give up a monk level for it. (fwiw, if I were playing i'd have 9/8/3 build)

There's not a lot of room to drop 5 of his offensive AP, as for the 5 Defensive AP's you'd have to give up.

I'd take them from the human tree.

My build would have
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(2) str
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(3) Action surge str
(2) healing amp
(2) action surge con
(2) healing amp


That's what I think too, giving up 3rd tier Hamp seems like a fair deal to me.
Although I'm a big fan of even levels. So, it will feel kinda odd to go 9/8/3 over 10/8/2.
Currently leveling with q-sticks and Henshin Mystic, which is tons of fun.
  

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Reply #54 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 12:32pm
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Does the improved martial arts feat work with this build. It seems kind of gray if it will work with cleaver because it doesn't mention axes. But as we know, this build makes axes a ki weapon and you remain centered. If improved martial arts does work with this build, would it be worth scrapping a toughness feat at 24 or 27?
  
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Reply #55 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 2:25pm
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radonek wrote on Sep 9th, 2013 at 12:32pm:
Does the improved martial arts feat work with this build. It seems kind of gray if it will work with cleaver because it doesn't mention axes. But as we know, this build makes axes a ki weapon and you remain centered. If improved martial arts does work with this build, would it be worth scrapping a toughness feat at 24 or 27?

You have to take 12 levels of Monk to qualify for Improved Martial Arts.
  

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Reply #56 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 11:04pm
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i did a 12/8 monk fighter version. i am missing some healing amp but i am still able to heal myself well and am fairly survivable
  
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Reply #57 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 1:11am
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12 monk gets you a lot over 10 monk or 10 fighter, but pally saves and DM are so good...

The way the new system lets you take seven different trees at once does multiply build choices, I'll give it that.
  
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Reply #58 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 8:41am
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radonek wrote on Sep 9th, 2013 at 11:04pm:
i did a 12/8 monk fighter version. i am missing some healing amp but i am still able to heal myself well and am fairly survivable

It can work as long as you replace Empower Heal Spell with Magical Training for unlimited Rejuv Cocoons.  Wings are addictive especially when blitzing.  Personally I wouldn't consider this split until I can get a 138 Ruby of Devotion and +15 Heal augment to make up for the lost Positive Spell Power.  Unfortunately those augments are extremely scarce right now.
  
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Re: U19 THF Cleaver
Reply #59 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 10:29am
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Carpone wrote on Sep 10th, 2013 at 8:41am:
It can work as long as you replace Empower Heal Spell with Magical Training for unlimited Rejuv Cocoons.  Wings are addictive especially when blitzing.  Personally I wouldn't consider this split until I can get a 138 Ruby of Devotion and +15 Heal augment to make up for the lost Positive Spell Power.  Unfortunately those augments are extremely scarce right now.


QMX said U19 augments were coming to the store "soon" a week ago... I dunno why the delay.
  
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Reply #60 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 11:34am
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cdr wrote on Sep 10th, 2013 at 10:29am:
QMX said U19 augments were coming to the store "soon" a week ago... I dunno why the delay.

Probably to establish how rare they are in game, so people are more inclined to buy them.  I'm sure I'll be disappointed, but I hope they're available in game from a GH vendor.  It doesn't really fit with GH, but there's no new "epic currency" in Shadowfell.
  
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Reply #61 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 12:11pm
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[quote author=785A494B54555E3B0 link=1376141993/58#58 date=1378816913]
It can work as long as you replace Empower Heal Spell with Magical Training for unlimited Rejuv Cocoons.  Wings are addictive especially when blitzing.  Personally I wouldn't consider this split until I can get a 138 Ruby of Devotion and +15 Heal augment to make up for the lost Positive Spell Power.  Unfortunately those augments are extremely scarce right now.[/quote]


Originally I was going to stick with the build that you laid out because it is very well planned and well thought out. But I had a few different hearts of wood laying around and thought I could test out the 12 monk 8 fighter split when I Tr'd knowing I could use a heart of wood to go to the Druid levels if it didn't work.

I have been using an item with a topaz of power in it to give me spell points  for rejuvy cocoon. My ADD must've kicked in somewhere because I took the second level of monk stances as a feat and didn't look ahead to realize I could've gotten them for free with 12 monk levels so that will be the feat I swap for magic training.

I have to say that I have held my own in this build. Yesterday I was level 23 doing epic hard wheeldon quests. I didn't die and I was killing things without struggling at all. Of course I did run them with one level 28 and a level 26. I was complimented on the survivability and the damage of my toon being that I was level 23 running level 27 quests.

So, thank you Caroline for sharing this build and allowing someone like me that has played for just over a year and is still trying to learn about custom building. Prior to this, the monk class never appealed to me but the versatility the class has allows you to be almost any type of character you want.
  
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Re: U19 THF Cleaver
Reply #62 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 1:23pm
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[quote author=2D3E3B30313A345F0 link=1376141993/61#61 date=1378829463]


So, thank you Caroline [/quote]

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Reply #63 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 1:31pm
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Damn auto correct...thank you Carpone, sorry about that. LoL.
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Reply #64 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 1:32pm
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Carpone is awesome, but calling him  Caroline might be pushing it ?
Capone is better indeed !
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Reply #65 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 1:34pm
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That's what I get for typing that message out on my phone. I was trying to give him props not disrespect him. I hate autocorrect. I'm dumb enough I my own..I don't need autocorrect's help lol.
  
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Reply #66 - Sep 11th, 2013 at 3:31am
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In case you were wondering, cetus/durnak, who has been the champion of kensai fighter builds since the dawn of time, has switched over to a sireth somewhat maybe kensai not really monk type enhancement build.  Feel free to mock him.  I know I will, every time I log into guild chat.   Grin
  

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Reply #67 - Sep 11th, 2013 at 10:36am
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Osharan Tregarth wrote on Sep 11th, 2013 at 3:31am:
In case you were wondering, cetus/durnak, who has been the champion of kensai fighter builds since the dawn of time, has switched over to a sireth somewhat maybe kensai not really monk type enhancement build.  Feel free to mock him.  I know I will, every time I log into guild chat.   Grin


He said on the other forum he already abandoned the sireth idea?
  
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Reply #68 - Sep 11th, 2013 at 9:49pm
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So Carpone, you never did answer that question before:

What do you think about 9\8\3 monk\fighter\druid with fatal harrier vs the original?
  
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Reply #69 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 12:59pm
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As I said previously in this thread, I have a 12 monk 8 fighter version of this build and I absolutely love it. I have almost all the gear though some of it are epic hard versions. Right now I am destiny farming for my last couple fate points so I can twist stand in stone.

I just acquired the guardians ring last night and was told that not all 24 of the prr will stack with a planar conflux...that I would only gain 10 additional prr. Does anyone here know if this is true?

My next question would be that since I do not have the Druid levels and don't have the empower healing spell feat, would adding a devotion augment in the red slot if cleave help make up the difference of not having the empower healing spell feat? Cleaver does enough damage without an elemental damage augment. Please forgive me if this is a noo bush question. I have played nearly as long as a lot of you guys and am trying to learn.
  
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Reply #70 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 1:19pm
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radonek wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 12:59pm:
I just acquired the guardians ring last night and was told that not all 24 of the prr will stack with a planar conflux...that I would only gain 10 additional prr. Does anyone here know if this is true?

That 24 will stack with 15 from Planar focus but not with 12 or 14 blue augment.
Devotion in red slot in Citw weapons is awesome.
Independence / self healing, freeing feat or item slots >> 5 or so dmg per hit.
It took me kinda long time to realize too ( until I asked a better player than me, forgot about implement ), but some people are still stuck in full retard dps mentality.
  
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Reply #71 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 2:45pm
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Wipe wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 1:19pm:
That 24 will stack with 15 from Planar focus but not with 12 or 14 blue augment.
Devotion in red slot in Citw weapons is awesome.
Independence / self healing, freeing feat or item slots >> 5 or so dmg per hit.
It took me kinda long time to realize too ( until I asked a better player than me, forgot about implement ), but some people are still stuck in full retard dps mentality.



Thank you for answering my question and helping to clarify the prr stacking issue. I really appreciate it. Now if I could just find those greater convalescent bracers of superior healing ill be all set. Right now I'm wearing the EE manacles of ceaseless toil. I slotted them with a topaz of power 200 to give me the spell points I need for rejuvy cocoon. I will have to play around with my fear to move my str and con around.

I am wearing the epic charged gauntlets because I can't seem to get the nethers grasp gloves to drop for me. I like the lightning strike on the charged gauntlets but that's all the gloves are doing for me. I'm probably better off wearing the pdk gauntlets for the healing amp until I can find those bracers. I just don't know where my best chance of finding them is. Hound of xoriat has Kevin's bracers but those are only 20% healing amp if I remember right.
  
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Reply #72 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 3:00pm
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radonek wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 2:45pm:
Kevin's bracers



Autocorrect again?
  
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Reply #73 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 3:54pm
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EH/EE Backstabber's Gloves are way better for most melee IMO than Nether Grasps. There's so many nice rings now I really don't want to have to slot Avithoul.
  
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Reply #74 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 4:08pm
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tachyon wrote on Sep 11th, 2013 at 9:49pm:
So Carpone, you never did answer that question before:

What do you think about 9\8\3 monk\fighter\druid with fatal harrier vs the original?

9 Monk/8 Fighter is the core.  Make the last 3 whatever you want them to be, as long as one of them provides Positive Spell Power.  Druid happens to be the best choice because of Ram's Might.

You might want to check on Lamannia that Fatal Harrier works how it used to.  I've seen references that its functionality may have changed.

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EH/EE Backstabber's Gloves are way better for most melee IMO than Nether Grasps. There's so many nice rings now I really don't want to have to slot Avithoul.

There are enough options for Seeker X now that you could try to squeeze in SA I suppose. Personally, I don't see the need for SA hit/dmg with Cleaver.
  
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