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AnalFissure Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 178 Joined: Jun 20^th, 2013	"User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Aug 21^st, 2013 at 7:59pm	Print Post
	Mainly because the users are numb from blood-loss after the 10,000 papercuts/bugs. Ascension Chamber closed due to introduced bugs. 20th Rewards lists Fos'd. Brand new xpack complete with uncompletable quest! Truthful One has been hanging out in Partycrashers too much. (The Guard the guard the guar the g...) Pale Masters not immune to Deathward or Turn Undead. Combat Archery still doesn't work. Improved Feint still doesn't work. Bluff pulling is kinda broken... (once bluff'd they know where you are, they don't search for you) Release Notes need a Reality Notes follow up. Epic GH map isn't fixed. Dodge bonuses do in fact still stack. At least there's their FIGHTCLUB fuckup to exploit... Wonder if that got fixed in today's hotfix. Play DDO for the fun of it. Pay Turbine so that you can know, truly know, without doubt; that even on your worst days, you're still better at your job than they are.


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #1 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 8:10pm	Print Post
	If user pain levels are at an all time low, it's because so many were sick of it and left. It's like saying the pain level at your hospital is at an all time low because you're managing to kill so many patients.


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pnellesen Titan Demolisher Offline We can't all just get along. Posts: 311 Joined: Dec 6^th, 2011	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #2 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 8:19pm	Print Post
	AnalFissure wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 7:59pm: At least there's their FIGHTCLUB fuckup to exploit... Wonder if that got fixed in today's hotfix. Thankfully, the one I've been abusing is still broken.


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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #3 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 8:26pm	Print Post
	Well fuuuuuu


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whothefuckami Stormreaver Piker Offline Oppan Gangnam Style Posts: 599 Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #4 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:02pm	Print Post
	cdr wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 8:10pm: If user pain levels are at an all time low, it's because so many were sick of it and left. It's like saying the pain level at your hospital is at an all time low because you're managing to kill so many patients. This is gold.

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majmalphunktion Major Motherfucking Malphunktion Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 283 Joined: May 20^th, 2011	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #5 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:37pm	Print Post
	AnalFissure wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 7:59pm: Mainly because the users are numb from blood-loss after the 10,000 papercuts/bugs. Ascension Chamber closed due to introduced bugs. 20th Rewards lists Fos'd. Brand new xpack complete with uncompletable quest! Truthful One has been hanging out in Partycrashers too much. (The Guard the guard the guar the g...) Pale Masters not immune to Deathward or Turn Undead. Combat Archery still doesn't work. Improved Feint still doesn't work. Bluff pulling is kinda broken... (once bluff'd they know where you are, they don't search for you) Release Notes need a Reality Notes follow up. Epic GH map isn't fixed. Dodge bonuses do in fact still stack. At least there's their FIGHTCLUB fuckup to exploit... Wonder if that got fixed in today's hotfix. Play DDO for the fun of it. Pay Turbine so that you can know, truly know, without doubt; that even on your worst days, you're still better at your job than they are. Enjoy the exploit while you can. Already fixed, not deployed. And yes it is at an all time low. MOTU was at a 2000+ user pain, SC is under 400. Still not where I want it to be, but I'll take it. Last year we were on hotfix 36 or something by this point, I lost all my hair, sleep and gained 20 pounds. I still have no hair, but I'm sleeping just fine, and have lost 28 pounds...so I'm ahead of the game. Oh and we did all this with half the team of last year (no fired, just moved to other projects). So troll away armchair developer, we are quite pleased where we are compared to last year. Yes there are bugs..duh. Welcome to software. Let's watch our competitors tomorrow, and let's see who does more patches over the next 2 weeks. And that game is dead simple compared to the morass of stuff we have to deal with. Seriously, if I find the dev that put in that 'feature' that is being abused right now...Sadly i can't shame any of the current team, that is an old old old checkin. Want me to go pull a list frooommm..pick a game? Let's see...legacy of Romulus. 2 pages of issues on launch day, with what...16+ patches since XP launch? Right. Give the buggy crap a rest. The game is in better shape now than it has been since 2011.


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Darth Anonymous Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 366 Joined: Nov 28^th, 2012	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #6 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:41pm	Print Post
	majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:37pm: Give the buggy crap a rest. The game is in better shape now than it has been since 2011. Perhaps it is but then again in 2011 it was in pretty shitty shape. Hell ladder bugs still ain't been fixed and I think they have been fucked up since well before 2011. MOTU was also 2 or 3 times the size of this last expansion so perhaps that's not a fair comparison.
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #7 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:41pm	Print Post
	AnalFissure wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 7:59pm: Mainly because the users are numb from blood-loss after the 10,000 papercuts/bugs. Ascension Chamber closed due to introduced bugs. 20th Rewards lists Fos'd. Brand new xpack complete with uncompletable quest! Truthful One has been hanging out in Partycrashers too much. (The Guard the guard the guar the g...) Pale Masters not immune to Deathward or Turn Undead. Combat Archery still doesn't work. Improved Feint still doesn't work. Bluff pulling is kinda broken... (once bluff'd they know where you are, they don't search for you) Release Notes need a Reality Notes follow up. Epic GH map isn't fixed. Dodge bonuses do in fact still stack. At least there's their FIGHTCLUB fuckup to exploit... Wonder if that got fixed in today's hotfix. Play DDO for the fun of it. Pay Turbine so that you can know, truly know, without doubt; that even on your worst days, you're still better at your job than they are. Besides the 20th run issue, most of this stuff is in the Meh with a capital Who Gives A Fuck! category. Especially the day after a new content release, level cap raise and enhancement pass. I'm surprised anyone was running Ascension Chamber anyways. Don't you have anything better to do? WTF? You gonna get in a few Proof is in the Poison runs, too?


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Kimberlite Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1074 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #8 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:59pm	Print Post
	majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:37pm: Enjoy the exploit while you can. Nice. So I can cite this as endorsement to do a few runs tonight without consequence? Epic normal eGH gear was already nerfed by U19 loot tables anyways and irrelevant in the face of EH/EE gear, apart from gearing alts. Might as well leave it as it is, or better yet, put finished epic loot into the end rewards for each epic quest. There isn't much ML20 shard/seal/scroll stuff that needs to be harder to get than the Sora Kell set, or any other leveling gear. No new player with an ounce of sanity is going to ever farm epic gloves of the claw, or an epic chrono set, let alone wear them at level 28. The older players won't bother either - they're running higher level EH or EE gear.

	Memnir wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 10:59am: Note to any Turbine staffers reading this, and one I genuinely hope you share around the office: DDO has become a shit game because y'all have made it a shit game. Once it was great. Now, it's a festering puddle of monkey diarrhea. No matter how you try to justify it, or pat yourselves on the back for doing great jobs... it's a shit game now because of you. Y'all keep on giving the players the middle finger, and you keep expecting us to reward you for the abuse. I've had it with you narcissistic fuckwads and your myopic policies of ineptitude.
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whothefuckami Stormreaver Piker Offline Oppan Gangnam Style Posts: 599 Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #9 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:08pm	Print Post
	majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:37pm: Enjoy the exploit while you can. Already fixed, not deployed. Which one? I shall take that as an endorsement to keep exploiting Fire Caves.

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majmalphunktion Major Motherfucking Malphunktion Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 283 Joined: May 20^th, 2011	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #10 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:09pm	Print Post
	Darth Anonymous wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:41pm: Perhaps it is but then again in 2011 it was in pretty shitty shape. Hell ladder bugs still ain't been fixed and I think they have been fucked up since well before 2011. MOTU was also 2 or 3 times the size of this last expansion so perhaps that's not a fair comparison. Oh it is fair...and it was not 3 times the size. The enhancement pass alone blows away anything we did in MOTU in terms of complexity. Ladder bugs. Yeah deal with it. Phucked Up Engine thing. each one that is wonky needs to be fixed by hand. But i can play that game. Right wall issue in Doom, causes unlimited speed and can break movement, mouse control and can throw you out of the world. never fixed. STO: You can still beam down to a planet as a spaceship. WTF it's been 4 years can't they fix that? No. Engine phuck up. It happens.


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majmalphunktion Major Motherfucking Malphunktion Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 283 Joined: May 20^th, 2011	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #11 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:10pm	Print Post
	Kimberlite wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:59pm: Nice. So I can cite this as endorsement to do a few runs tonight without consequence? Epic normal eGH gear was already nerfed by U19 loot tables anyways and irrelevant in the face of EH/EE gear, apart from gearing alts. Might as well leave it as it is, or better yet, put finished epic loot into the end rewards for each epic quest. There isn't much ML20 shard/seal/scroll stuff that needs to be harder to get than the Sora Kell set, or any other leveling gear. No new player with an ounce of sanity is going to ever farm epic gloves of the claw, or an epic chrono set, let alone wear them at level 28. The older players won't bother either - they're running higher level EH or EE gear. that isn't even the good one.


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Kimberlite Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1074 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #12 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:11pm	Print Post
	majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:10pm: that isn't even the good one. I never get to hear the good ones. PM please.

	Memnir wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 10:59am: Note to any Turbine staffers reading this, and one I genuinely hope you share around the office: DDO has become a shit game because y'all have made it a shit game. Once it was great. Now, it's a festering puddle of monkey diarrhea. No matter how you try to justify it, or pat yourselves on the back for doing great jobs... it's a shit game now because of you. Y'all keep on giving the players the middle finger, and you keep expecting us to reward you for the abuse. I've had it with you narcissistic fuckwads and your myopic policies of ineptitude.
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whothefuckami Stormreaver Piker Offline Oppan Gangnam Style Posts: 599 Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #13 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:12pm	Print Post
	majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:10pm: that isn't even the good one. 10/10 for trolling.

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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #14 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:14pm	Print Post
	Kimberlite wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:11pm: I never get to hear the good ones. PM please. There's an exploit with the LR+20 stone where you can get 6 Million EXPs instead of the 4.375 Million or whatever. It is possible to keep advancing to level 28. Before you ask, no, I don't know how to do it but I've been thinking about it.

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whothefuckami Stormreaver Piker Offline Oppan Gangnam Style Posts: 599 Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #15 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:18pm	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:14pm: There's an exploit with the LR+20 stone where you can get 6 Million EXPs instead of the 4.375 Million or whatever. It is possible to keep advancing to level 28. Before you ask, no, I don't know how to do it but I've been thinking about it. Yeah I think I know how to do that one, it just takes sooooooo long. Only slightly faster than grinding the XP and so painfully boring.

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CosmicCharlie Shroud Slacker Offline How do you do? Posts: 1152 Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2012	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #16 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:18pm	Print Post
	It was posted on the main forums I think is where I saw it. Prob cubed.


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whothefuckami Stormreaver Piker Offline Oppan Gangnam Style Posts: 599 Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #17 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:21pm	Print Post
	CosmicCharlie wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:18pm: It was posted on the main forums I think is where I saw it. Prob cubed. If you knew how to do it you probably wouldn't want to. Perform repetitive action, get 835 XP. Repeat until your bleed from orifices you didn't even know you had.

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CosmicCharlie Shroud Slacker Offline How do you do? Posts: 1152 Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2012	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #18 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:30pm	Print Post
	https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/422777-MASSIVE-BUG-Be-aware whothefuckami wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:21pm: If you knew how to do it you probably wouldn't want to. Perform repetitive action, get 835 XP. Repeat until your bleed from orifices you didn't even know you had.


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pnellesen Titan Demolisher Offline We can't all just get along. Posts: 311 Joined: Dec 6^th, 2011	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #19 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 11:05pm	Print Post
	majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:37pm: Enjoy the exploit while you can. Already fixed, not deployed. Hey, as long as the "non-beneficial" bugs are fixed too, it's all good. History tends to make me skeptical that's going to happen, but I would love to be proven wrong.


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Darth Anonymous Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 366 Joined: Nov 28^th, 2012	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #20 - Aug 21^st, 2013 at 11:31pm	Print Post
	majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 10:09pm: STO: You can still beam down to a planet as a spaceship. WTF it's been 4 years can't they fix that? No. Engine phuck up. It happens. 4 years huh. Perhaps beaming is a bad example for you to give. Porting from town to wilderness in Gianthold & messages when leaving an airship come to mind. I heard that they made all of the STO dev team wear red shirts in order to constantly remind them that they were all expendable.
	« Last Edit: Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 12:35am by Darth Anonymous »

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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4339 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #21 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 12:14am	Print Post
	majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:37pm: Give the buggy crap a rest. The game is in better shape now than it has been since 2011. It may have relatively less bugs : content ratio. But the game was in a much better state in 2011.

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Khyberian Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 12 Joined: Jul 24^th, 2013	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #22 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 12:23am	Print Post
	majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:37pm: Enjoy the exploit while you can. Already fixed, not deployed. And yes it is at an all time low. MOTU was at a 2000+ user pain, SC is under 400. Still not where I want it to be, but I'll take it. Last year we were on hotfix 36 or something by this point, I lost all my hair, sleep and gained 20 pounds. I still have no hair, but I'm sleeping just fine, and have lost 28 pounds...so I'm ahead of the game. Oh and we did all this with half the team of last year (no fired, just moved to other projects). So troll away armchair developer, we are quite pleased where we are compared to last year. Yes there are bugs..duh. Welcome to software. Let's watch our competitors tomorrow, and let's see who does more patches over the next 2 weeks. And that game is dead simple compared to the morass of stuff we have to deal with. Seriously, if I find the dev that put in that 'feature' that is being abused right now...Sadly i can't shame any of the current team, that is an old old old checkin. Want me to go pull a list frooommm..pick a game? Let's see...legacy of Romulus. 2 pages of issues on launch day, with what...16+ patches since XP launch? Right. Give the buggy crap a rest. The game is in better shape now than it has been since 2011. I kinda agree with all of this except the go ahead and exploit comment. WTF? Aren't you supposed to not acknowledge that there is an exploit. It takes the fun out of it,dude, or it would if I knew wtf it was. This is pretty clean, this expansion, and a day-after hotfox was impressive.


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Khyberian Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 12 Joined: Jul 24^th, 2013	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #23 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 12:28am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Aug 21^st, 2013 at 9:41pm: Besides the 20th run issue, most of this stuff is in the Meh with a capital Who Gives A Fuck! category.� Especially the day after a new content release, level cap raise and enhancement pass.� I'm surprised anyone was running Ascension Chamber anyways.� Don't you have anything better to do?� WTF?� You gonna get in a few Proof is in the Poison runs, too? This.


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Darth Anonymous Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 366 Joined: Nov 28^th, 2012	Re: "User Pain Level" is at an all time low... Reply #24 - Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 12:30am	Print Post
	Seems to me like several of the bugs dropped from the same stupid decision to mess with items that perhaps were best left alone. If FoS had not gone off chasing windmills and beating are swords into plowshares then perhaps Turbine's expansion would of gone even smoother.


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