Anyone have one they like?  Running most quests on E seems to work pretty well, but I'm looking for good repeat spots.

Wipe wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 5:57am:


Ok, I know that "over level" XP penalty in Epics is gone,
but what about heroic content?

Like Encair said, you can practically do everything much earlier. Shadow Crypt is a good example; at -80 it's 8k exp a run which is still 1k a minute due to how fast it is. Same thing with VoN 3, except it gets a little better as you can cut down the repeat penalty and pick up more exp by doing traps and getting ransack.


Quests are still farmable, just not all of them. I think quests with more % exp objectives such as vol are the best to do at -80 or 'daily'.


Personally, I ran Shadow Crypt at least 50 times from level 11 to 12, then 12 to partially 14. Mainly because everything sucks EXP wise when you hit 12 besides von 2. It does get very sickening quickly though, especially when someone\you messes up on a gear or something... 

OnePercenter wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 1:02pm:


Thanks for the catch.

OOB is a little bit too slow to farm for my taste when you combine the running time to quest\time for quest completion.  You're probably better off running more VoN 3 at 13 (but make sure you have a trapper as -90 will kill the exp) and doing all of the 11's for BB. Even a quest like Framework would probably be better I think, even though it's the level above.

If you aren't doing a 36 hours RL time life, do stuff really under level.

Next life, I'll be hitting Shadow Crypt at 6 or so. Then every day you log on, go run it 3-4 more times.

tachyon wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 10:43pm:



Yeah this, and if you can do them lower do them lower.

whothefuckami wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 2:47am:


Maraud is definitely faster and easier to farm...  But OOB is definitely lots of fun.  It vexed me when I first started playing.  Now I love the heck out of it...

kierg10 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 10:54pm:




Agreed. Invaders farming is exceptionally sexy with a good group, plus you get to link your hundreds of outsider tokens everywhere.

Luxgolg wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 9:03am:


I'm starting to think this too...  Just took 15th early on an Arti life...wanted my BB...  Normally I'd grind Sands and some Lordsmarch, but I think I will just hit those E then H and go to GH.

tachyon wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 11:25pm:


Depends on class and which levels...  I usually level up to 8 regardless.  For levels with fewer good XP quests, I may hold a level getting into them.  Gear may drive it too.  Anxious for GS, etc.

There's no point in holding off on content anymore since you can't actually grind it out. 

I was running a hard litany on a level 18/19 and getting 20k for it each day.  And that was after I had ground the shit out of it at level 17 right before the change.  I was pulling like 5 or 6k per run when I stopped. 

No need to hold off on Shadow Crypt, Deleras, Von3, Wiz King, Diplo Immunity, etc.

It's more about what you can handle at a certain level.  The sooner you get into the high XP/min content, the better off you are, actually.

I am starting to like the new system better because it encourages you to challenge yourself with content above your level and because it allows you to run a more varied content vs. grinding the same quest 5-7 times in a row.  I hate doing that.

Doing elite VON3 at 7 or 8 is a fucking lot of fun.
Running hard VON3 three times a day until 14 is less so, unless you level from 7 to 14 in one or two play sessions.

I hate to say it, but from a purely selfish point of view the new mechanics pan out from my point of view because I wouldn't have had time to farm the hell out of quests in a night anyway.  When you can't run more than a small handful of quests in any given evening due to time constraints, you don't want to run shit you don't like to run. 

When the shit you DO like to run gives you full XP all over again the next day, that's awesome.  It also helps resolve the contradiction between farming for particular loot and levelling; you can go back every day until you pull what you want, getting XP for it every time.

All in all, I gotta say it works for me.