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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Another TWF thread - help needed Reply #25 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 1:06am	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Sep 13^th, 2013 at 8:53pm: I've got a WF Ftr8/Rgr6/Mnk6 with dual Drow Khopeshes for stunning. He's centered and he's a beast. What DC you getting? Even at a 70 STR on a 12/6/2 I found it to be very meh in the modern EEs.


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Another TWF thread - help needed Reply #26 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 1:12am	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 1:06am: What DC you getting?� Even at a 70 STR on a 12/6/2 I found it to be very meh in the modern EEs. 59. Pretty sure I can get it up to 62-63 if I work at it though.

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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Another TWF thread - help needed Reply #27 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 12:10am	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 1:12am: 59. Pretty sure I can get it up to 62-63 if I work at it though. That doesn't come close to cutting it in the new EEs.


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Another TWF thread - help needed Reply #28 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 12:12am	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 12:10am: That doesn't come close to cutting it in the new EEs. Not worried about it. Stunning Blow will never be as good as Stunning Fist and I already have a toon with a 74 Stunning Fist. If I farm the Eveningstar Challenges for one more cloak upgrade, I'll have 75 SF and 71 QP.
	« Last Edit: Sep 16^th, 2013 at 12:17am by Arkat »
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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: Another TWF thread - help needed Reply #29 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 12:23pm	Print Post
	About to swallow a +20 heart on a dorf melee who's currently at L12, and I'm struggling with the levelling order.� TWF and ITWF come from Ranger 6, but I'll need 8 Ftr on top of that before I can run around centred with D-Axes.� Given that I'm actually playing through another 8 heroic levels with this toon, can anyone spell out for my hard-of-thinking self the best level/feat order to make this work? Believe it or not, once upon a time I'd have been able to do this without squinting� sigh EDIT:� Current best guess is that it pretty much needs to be 6 Ranger / 6 Fighter to start with, but I'm not sure if that'll leave me with enough to do with my Monk feats.� End split will be 8/8/4, unless I noodle it out and it looks like 8/6/6 will give me more.
	« Last Edit: Sep 16^th, 2013 at 12:29pm by Persiflage »
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spathic Stocky Greenis Offline Taunting the stupid since before you were born. Posts: 1623 Location: Shenandoah valley Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2012 Gender:	Re: Another TWF thread - help needed Reply #30 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 3:56pm	Print Post
	Literally back of the envelope, but 2 ranger/2 monk/6 ranger/8 fighter/2monk would seem to work. You'd take Adept/Master/Grandmaster with character feats at 6/12/18, then GTWF with the 2nd fighter bonus feat at level 12 in that design, and Empower Heal with your character feat at 15. Cleave as level 3 character feat, Great Cleave as fighter bonus at level 16. Weapon Focus/specialization/greater focus as fighter level 1/4/8 bonus feats. Improved critical at level 9. Hell, even on a character not using an LR I think that works, just fight unarmed until you get to around 10 and deal with the Uncentered messages until 18.

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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Another TWF thread - help needed Reply #31 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 4:21pm	Print Post
	spathic wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 3:56pm: Literally back of the envelope, but 2 ranger/2 monk/6 ranger/8 fighter/2monk would seem to work. You'd take Adept/Master/Grandmaster with character feats at 6/12/18 That split means your basically wasting a free monk feat. The answers fairly simple.� You back load your fighter levels and swap weapon types as needed whilst leveling. Myself, I'd rather stay centered and use shortswords, getting sting of the ninja + ninja exploit, deft strikes + iron skin then focus on tempest enhancements. 2monk > 6ranger > 4 monk > 8fighter.
	« Last Edit: Sep 16^th, 2013 at 4:22pm by Munkenmo »
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spathic Stocky Greenis Offline Taunting the stupid since before you were born. Posts: 1623 Location: Shenandoah valley Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2012 Gender:	Re: Another TWF thread - help needed Reply #32 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 7:47pm	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 4:21pm: That split means your basically wasting a free monk feat. The answers fairly simple.� You back load your fighter levels and swap weapon types as needed whilst leveling. Myself, I'd rather stay centered and use shortswords, getting sting of the ninja + ninja exploit, deft strikes + iron skin then focus on tempest enhancements. 2monk > 6ranger > 4 monk > 8fighter. Really missing out on two feats, the one auto grant stance and one monk bonus. The tradeoff is access to empower heal, which isn't underpowered by any means. Also staying with the 8/8/4 path he'd mentioned. Since there's no free feats at that point, thats how I came up with backloading tge monk levels.

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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Another TWF thread - help needed Reply #33 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 7:54pm	Print Post
	spathic wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 7:47pm: Also staying with the 8/8/4 path he'd mentioned bleh completely missed that in his post and yours. stupid iphones and their small screens.

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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: Another TWF thread - help needed Reply #34 - Sep 17^th, 2013 at 5:43am	Print Post
	So... 8/6/6 gives a better return? Hmph. I think I'm going to have to try and work it all out with pen and paper. Stupid Greater Weapon Focus requirement

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