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I hate it, it's fucking retarded.    
  127 (29.5%)
I hate it, It's going to kill what is left of endgame    
  82 (19.1%)
I hate it, Even if you give me Doughnuts    
  88 (20.5%)
I Fucking hate it, really, serious    
  84 (19.5%)
I love it, I suck Turbine's shit like milk.    
  17 (4.0%)
I don't care, I love Doughnuts    
  32 (7.4%)




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Reply #25 - Oct 19th, 2013 at 11:06pm
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Saaluta wrote on Oct 19th, 2013 at 10:52pm:
I have the app on my smartphone and laptop...that is where I spend my unspent book funds,but there is something intoxicating about the feel of a real book in your hands Smiley




I agree about the feel of real books.  but the new kindle readers are twice the size of smart phones.  almost the size of a standard paperback.  and they work well even in sunlight.  I'm a lifelong book reader and I didn't think I would ever change, but I have to say I now enjoy the kindle almost more than real books.


the spine doesn't break.  never lose my place.  a lot more portable.  I don't have to worry about shelf space.  and the ones with the digital ink have a  great look and have amazing battery life.
  

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Saaluta wrote on Oct 19th, 2013 at 10:52pm:
something intoxicating about the feel of a real book in your hands


What is this topic doing on TheVault?! But I agree completely  Smiley

I especially like used books that fall open to a page with a great passage. I love my technology, but it will never be as good as a real book for that reason.
  

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Reply #27 - Oct 20th, 2013 at 12:48am
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Carpone wrote on Oct 19th, 2013 at 9:03pm:
Who gives a fuck until iconic and epic past life feats are posted.


Sad, but true. They haven't even released Epic or Iconic PL feats and have already caused quite a shitstorm.

Now why the fuck would they mess with Herioic TR at all, don't fix what ain't broke, Turdbine!
  

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Reply #28 - Oct 20th, 2013 at 1:24am
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My biggest issue with this whole hot mess is that it will further invalidate the older stuff, basically saying to everyone "Play the new stuff we worked on! The old stuff was better, we're jealous and so we will burn that mother to the ground! For Profit!".

I could give a shit about what new shinies they are offering up with the new system, I TR for a very specific reason that the new shit is just that. Making me run sagas for TRing outside of spending real cash is the last kick in the crotch for me.
  

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Reply #29 - Oct 20th, 2013 at 9:10am
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I don't hate the idea, but I hate the current price in comms.  I like the idea of sagas being a great way to get bonus XP, comms for TR, etc.  that's fine but the turbine is in the details.  These need addressing:

1)  Why turn off the Tokens for True Hearts option?  It didn't have to go.  It wasn't mutually exclusive.  If you still drop tokens, they need to be  usable for something.  Old Epics isn't enough.

2)  The price is crazy.  Spending 10-15 hours to get a heart is fine.  Needing to spend 40 or more is stupid.

3)  We didn't need ANOTHER item to put in a bag.  You already have 6-7 different types of commendations.  You already have epic tokens.  Why couldn't you just use one of those?  And then give people MORE ways to earn the hearts while running a variety of end game content.  if you used Heroic Comms then you would be encouraging people to run raids AND epic 6 man content. 

If they allowed tokens to still be used, dropped heroic comms in saga end rewards instead of these new ones and made the turn in be about 10 heroic comms, I would be totally fine with it.

  
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Reply #30 - Oct 20th, 2013 at 10:08am
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Asheras wrote on Oct 20th, 2013 at 9:10am:
1)  Why turn off the Tokens for True Hearts option?  It didn't have to go.  It wasn't mutually exclusive.  If you still drop tokens, they need to be  usable for something.  Old Epics isn't enough.

2)  The price is crazy.  Spending 10-15 hours to get a heart is fine.  Needing to spend 40 or more is stupid.



Well after Jerry comes back to work tomorrow morning at 9 AM (which is amazing for a 24/7 running worldwide MMORPG company that claims to be AAA btw) and has made his coffee and sits on his desk at around 10, then realizes the shit's hit the forum's fan, he'll maybe spill his drink over his keyboard then speak to Tolero, then they'll speak to at the monday 2 o'clock meeting then he'll probably write one of his "one in 2 years" statements where he will announce that

1) the Token-for-Hearts option will be left turned on for a transition period of, say, till the end of the year.

2) Prize from the alpha-server is ridiculously high, (that's why it's an alpha test server btw, to all the doomsayers, did you really believe you had to run a saga 50 times, are you that fucking dumb?) and that it will be considerably lower on the live beta-game-servers, the grind only slightly higher than today's Heart of wood-grind.

(an to be honest - farming epic tokens was considerably tougher when the lvl cap was 20 and not every n00b could reach lvl28 within a few weeks and thinking about it, I have to almost agree that TRing is almost a tid too easy nowadays ... heck, did I say that out load?)
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Reply #31 - Oct 20th, 2013 at 10:59am
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Fuck Turbine and the horse they rode in on.

I could give a shit if it takes 1 saga run or 100, I do not want to run sagas plain and simple, I have zero interest in being forced to run quest I dislike.

Turbine has zero end game, they killed it long ago and have no plan to revamp it so their answer, force people that want to TR to either buy hearts (more money) or run a series of half baked quest over and over.

It is change for change sake it brings nothing new to the game, like most of their recent changes it is dumb.
  

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Reply #32 - Oct 20th, 2013 at 11:00am
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Consider this :

When they told us that the Augments were going to be updated, they never told us that they were going to remove the Catalysts from Lahar.... we discovered it the hard way when the update hit live.
That way they made sure that we wouldn't be able to slot anything on our old epic items unless we updated them ( which in some case is not a good move ).

This time as they remove basically all the use for Lahar, they might as well sneak remove him in the update, and we all would be pissed because we wouldn't be able to make all those old epic items we want to make but are missing a seal, a shard or a scroll.

  

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Reply #33 - Oct 20th, 2013 at 1:18pm
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DDOcrackhead wrote on Oct 20th, 2013 at 10:08am:
Well after Jerry comes back to work tomorrow morning at 9 AM (which is amazing for a 24/7 running worldwide MMORPG company that claims to be AAA btw) and has made his coffee and sits on his desk at around 10, then realizes the shit's hit the forum's fan, he'll maybe spill his drink over his keyboard then speak to Tolero, then they'll speak to Fеrnando at the monday 2 o'clock meeting then he'll probably write one of his "one in 2 years" statements where he will announce that

1) the Token-for-Hearts option will be left turned on for a transition period of, say, till the end of the year.

2) Prize from the alpha-server is ridiculously high, (that's why it's an alpha test server btw, to all the doomsayers, did you really believe you had to run a saga 50 times, are you that fucking dumb?) and that it will be considerably lower on the live beta-game-servers, the grind only slightly higher than today's Heart of wood-grind.

You dumbass, Fеrnando hasn't had anything to do with DDO for almost a year now.

WAKE THE FUCK UP, NOOB!!!
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Reply #34 - Oct 20th, 2013 at 2:04pm
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Guys, it is not:
I could give a ...

Correct:

I could NOT give a ....

So, properly reply to this post that "I could not give a ...." about my post.

  
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FakeStrake wrote on Oct 20th, 2013 at 2:04pm:
Guys, it is not:
I could give a ...

Correct:

I could NOT give a ....

So, properly reply to this post that "I could not give a ...." about my post.


Point taken, but in this case I really could give Turbine a big pile of steaming shit over this, preferably right in the middle of whomevers desk that came up with this idea.
  

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FakeStrake wrote on Oct 20th, 2013 at 2:04pm:
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I could give a ...

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I could NOT give a ....

So, properly reply to this post that "I could not give a ...." about my post.


No





Yes
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Saaluta wrote on Oct 19th, 2013 at 10:52pm:
there is something intoxicating about the feel of a real book in your hands


That's the glue in the binding.
  
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Arkat wrote on Oct 20th, 2013 at 1:18pm:
You dumbass, Fеrnando hasn't had anything to do with DDO for almost a year now.

WAKE THE FUCK UP, NOOB!!!


So who's the responsible boss of DDO now? Apologize my lack of Turdbine-knowledge.
  


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Glin
  

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NOTdarth wrote on Oct 20th, 2013 at 2:55pm:
Glin

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DDOcrackhead wrote on Oct 20th, 2013 at 2:54pm:
So who's the responsible boss of DDO now? Apologize my lack of Turdbine-knowledge.

Producer Rowan

Look him up on the DDO Forums. He introduced himself and posted quite a bit for a short time.

Before him, that guy Glin was the interim Producer. Glin is now the Senior Developer, replacing Eladrin.
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Meursault wrote on Oct 20th, 2013 at 12:17am:
What is this topic doing on TheVault?! But I agree completely  Smiley

I especially like used books that fall open to a page with a great passage. I love my technology, but it will never be as good as a real book for that reason.



It's a lot easier to carry 40 books on a plane with a kindle or pad.  and you don't have to worry about silverfish.
  

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Real books are the best though. ...you know if this shit goes forward i may just need a new game.
  
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dilnu wrote on Oct 20th, 2013 at 7:49pm:
Real books are the best though. ...you know if this shit goes forward i may just need a new game.


Go check out wildstar.
  

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Munkenmo wrote on Oct 20th, 2013 at 10:20pm:
Go check out wildstar.


What specifically do you like about Wildstar? My SO was in the closed beta and really enjoyed it, but when he let me play on his account I couldn't really get into it. I really like the art style and sense of humor, but the combat and character building felt clunky and rigid to me compared to DDO. The few quests I tried were pretty boring as well (kill X monsters, etc). Of course, all that could all change as development continues.

If my SO is still playing DDO once his ban is over, I imagine he'll make the switch to Wildstar completely once it leaves beta. I would need to enjoy it a lot more than I did when I played to be willing to drop a subscription on it myself. I kinda wish it was gonna have a f2p option so I could try it out some more.
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Munkenmo wrote on Oct 20th, 2013 at 10:20pm:
Go check out wildstar.

Thanks mo i will have a look at it.
  
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Wildstar looks like fun, but not my genre.  I need big scaly flying things and men with beards wearing nightgowns and blowing things up with their minds.
  

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Wyni wrote on Oct 20th, 2013 at 11:33pm:
What specifically do you like about Wildstar? My SO was in the closed beta and really enjoyed it, but when he let me play on his account I couldn't really get into it. I really like the art style and sense of humor, but the combat and character building felt clunky and rigid to me compared to DDO. The few quests I tried were pretty boring as well (kill X monsters, etc). Of course, all that could all change as development continues.

I kinda wish it was gonna have a f2p option so I could try it out some more.


I've not actually played it yet.  I've been following their press releases though and have been really liking what I see, humor, design, socially & housing wise.

I'd love to get my mits on it and give the quests/combat/character creation a whirl, but for now I've gotta practice being patient Sad.

I'm not too fussed about it being pay to play.  I've read it's already got a system where you can trade items / currency for subscription time. Eitherway  I'm not opposed to paying for something I like (hell I was a ddo vip till u19).
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Yeah, looked like Wildstar was going for the EVE Online path to being "free". Much, much preferably to the DDO-style microtransaction BS that inevitably and completely corrupts the game design.
  
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Munkenmo wrote on Oct 21st, 2013 at 4:06am:
I'm not too fussed about it being pay to play.  I've read it's already got a system where you can trade items / currency for subscription time. Eitherway  I'm not opposed to paying for something I like (hell I was a ddo vip till u19).


If that's the case I'll probably give it a shot. I was actually a DDO vip until June of this year as well. I definitely have no problem putting money into games I really like.

cdr wrote on Oct 21st, 2013 at 9:41am:
Yeah, looked like Wildstar was going for the EVE Online path to being "free". Much, much preferably to the DDO-style microtransaction BS that inevitably and completely corrupts the game design.


I started playing back when DDO first went f2p and at that time I had no problem with DDO's microtransaction model. Over the years though, they have rammed a new moneygrab down our throats with every update and patch. I can't put my finger on the exact update where Turbine crossed the line between reasonable business practices and hobo washing your windshield at a stoplight, but they're firmly on the wrong side of it now.

Maybe it's inevitable that any f2p game is going to go down that road, I don't know. I like to think not.

  
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