Pretty sure Munk will say 'No, use handwraps', but are there any good stick builds left?  Was thinking 2 monk, 2 fighter lots of rogue.  I still need a fighter life so I figure this would be a fun easy way to squeeze it in.  Might do for barb as well.

Stick builds are fine, but no glancing blows on cleaves bums me out too much to do one.

If you mean TR build instead of real build, then it's also fine there. You want to have Chieftan's Spear, Stave of the Seer, Dreamspitter etc though.

Chieftan's is awesome but you can certainly do without... I just don't see the point of doing a stick life w/o the fun sticks. Manasdirge bought my last Spear for like 1M pp so I don't have any more, but I think I have a bound Seer that I could ASAH trade.

Aeolwind wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 6:53pm:


yes.

5 rogue, 1 monk for stances. Figure out the rest, YMMW.

tachyon wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 11:03pm:

If you are going that deep in Monk, you may as well not do a stick build.  Just the way it appears to me on the surface.

in order of preference:

9druid/9monk/2fighter
9druid/10rogue/1monk
9druid/8fighter/3monk

Breeze is fucking awesome with staff mastery, 15-20/3, when upgraded greater telekinetic and greater sirocco, aka what is not killed is lying on the floor or blind

major drawback: its DEX only for hit&dmg
you also want to give it adamantine ritual since it's durability/hardness are rather low

Thief Acro > Henshin for me
for endgame 12 Monk 6 Rogue 2 whatever you think will benefit you the most
ofc LR out of dex then since Sireth > all other sticks

I have a 9Drd/9Mnk/2Ftr wolf build I was debating on swapping from handwraps to Qstaffs (an acrobat in my first life) when I got a Sireth. I haven't used LD since I capped my third time, focusing on unlocking Rejuv Cocoon and hitting FotW to level that a bit. I know half the things in LD don't work with handwraps, but I never tried it with animal forms. Anything to worry about?

I haven't used my LR20 heart yet, so I'm at a crossroads where I can either make small tweaks to a fun build or redo the whole thing. My stunning fist DCs are just too far behind, with no viable way to catch them up if I want OC. I was hoping Overwhelming Force from FotW would take the place of Stunning Fist as CC and a way to make enemies helpless but I just unlocked it and after trying a couple times it feels more like Underwhelming Force.

If a Qstaff is viable with the same build then it's just a matter of changing enhancements and taking some qstaffs out of my TR bank. Or, since I'm a Warforged, I can TR into a Bladeforged and use my LR20 for a useful past life feat.

They're all viable at endgame.

Why would you use sireth and not adamantine knuckles w/ twf line in wolf form.

Munkenmo wrote on Oct 25^th, 2013 at 8:47pm:


I think these smhucks want a pure stick build to use at cap. Damage wise I would go 13 rogue/6 monk/1 druid.

I thought that they had already fixed the TWF thing. I have the feats on my Wolf druid and don't appear to be receiving offhand attacks anymore. Granted, my Wolf druid is a non-monk version that desperately needs an LR to become less gimped, so I have no idea if the TWF feats still work for handwraps in form.