totally wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 6:09am:



Well, I'm not doing it as a BF, but it could be converted:

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Level 28 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(6 Monk \ 1 Rogue \ 13 Wizard \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 368
Spell Points: 1325
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 13
Will: 11

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Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
[U](32 Point)[/U]       [U](Level 1)[/U]             [U](Level 28)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=silver]Strength             16                    24
Dexterity            14                    14
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence         16                    18
Wisdom                6                     6
Charisma              6                     6[/COLOR]

[B][U]Tomes Used[/U][/B]
[COLOR=silver]+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
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[B]                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
[U]Skills[/U]           [U](Level 1)[/U]            [U](Level 28)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=silver]Balance               2                    10
Bluff                -2                     6
Concentration         3                    12
Diplomacy            -2                     6
Disable Device        n/a                  n/a
Haggle               -2                     6
Heal                 -2                     6
Hide                  2                    10
Intimidate           -2                     6
Jump                  3                    15
Listen               -2                     6
Move Silently         2                    10
Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair                3                    12
Search                3                    12
Spellcraft            3                    12
Spot                 -2                     6
Swim                  3                    15
Tumble                n/a                  n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                    n/a
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[B][U]Level 1 (Rogue)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Power Attack[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 2 (Wizard)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 3 (Monk)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Cleave[/COLOR]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Monk Bonus) Dodge[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 4 (Wizard)[/U][/B]


[B][U]Level 5 (Monk)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Monk Bonus) Toughness[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 6 (Wizard)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Two Handed Fighting[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 7 (Monk)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light[/COLOR]


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[B][U]Level 9 (Monk)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Great Cleave[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 10 (Wizard)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 11 (Monk)[/U][/B]


[B][U]Level 12 (Monk)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Master of Forms[/COLOR]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Monk Bonus) Precision[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 13 (Wizard)[/U][/B]


[B][U]Level 14 (Wizard)[/U][/B]


[B][U]Level 15 (Wizard)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 16 (Wizard)[/U][/B]


[B][U]Level 17 (Wizard)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 18 (Wizard)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Grandmaster of Forms[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 19 (Wizard)[/U][/B]


[B][U]Level 20 (Wizard)[/U][/B]


[B][U]Level 21 (Epic)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 22 (Epic)[/U][/B]


[B][U]Level 23 (Epic)[/U][/B]


[B][U]Level 24 (Epic)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 25 (Epic)[/U][/B]


[B][U]Level 26 (Epic)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 27 (Epic)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 28 (Epic)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target[/COLOR]


 

Tier 5 Henshin mystic, 20ish AP in racial (improved power attack, toughness, recon SLA if BF), 11 AP in EK (mage armor & shield SLAs, and then mostly for the secondary effects), 11 AP in ninja (ninja fade), 4 in Thief -Acrobat.

Buff and utility spells; Knock, in particular, since it lets you dump Open Lock and you will be skill point tight. Reconstruct, Tenser's Transformation, and one open level 6 spell (Acid Fog, Disintegrate, Greater Heroism are all good choices here), and 2 level 7 spell slots.

Max staff DPS; Sireth will be better and faster than eSoS. Tenser's Transformation will have to be cast instead of toggled, but that is an option; there is no other way to get Staff Specialization, and the negative level strike is invaluable.

I don't like trip; if it doesn't incapacitate them, you might as well save the feats and just use grease/acid fog/ice storm/etc.

It will require a +1 LR for BF, although you could so something similar with 12 sorc/6 monk/2 paladin; better saves, but lower DPS and no trapping.

Feynman wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 9:26am:


I was looking at more melee-oriented builds. The whole point of the SLA to me is the opportunity to ignore hamp + coccoon or arcane levels on a robot as a limiting factor for the build. The better split to me is still 13/7/1 rogue/monk/fighter. I was really hoping to hear from anyone who's tried max trip DCs on this split to see whether sweeping strikes + improved trip make for good AOE crowd control in EE. I really should get download Lamma client, but I don't have a vast amount of hdd space to play with at the moment. I do have a toon I could TR into it, but I don't have a lot of levelling gear for him

totally wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 10:54am:


I'm not wild about trip for cc; yes, you can theoretically get the DC about 5 points higher than stunning blow, but it's not as good (doesn't render them helpless) and costs 2 feats.

The build I posted was one I built as a suggestion for someone who "wanted it all," i.e. melee dps, casting, self heals, trapping, etc, and I built one up to theorycraft my next TR.

What about 12 monk/4 rogue/4 paladin? Imp evasion, shadow veil,  abundant step, divine might, incredible saves, as much thief-acrobat as you can spare from henshin, racial and ninja lines. You could even squeeze in combat expertise and improved trip without too much trouble.

totally wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2013 at 4:57am:



It's the curse of the monk; too many good trees, you want to spend AP in them all; TWF is even worse.

That's why 4 paladin is so attractive (well, that and not having to LR a BF): 11 AP in KotC for CHA to STR bonus without twisting in US, and if you can spare another 6, it gives a 3rd boost. Everything else pretty much sucks.

It's ranger/monk that always kills me; you have to have shintao, but ninja is really nice too, henshin has some great stuff, and tempest is amazing, but if you have a nice racial tree....!

Extra AP would be nice, but I think it would be simpler to just lower the AP cost of some of the enhancements.