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U19 THF Cleaver
Aug 10th, 2013 at 9:39am
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Summary:
Fantastic THF damage
Decent self-healing melee
Superb damage avoidance
Good damage mitigation

Human 10 Monk/8 Fighter/2 Druid:
1 Monk 1 (Human: Dodge, Monk: Power Attack, Level: Cleave)
Skills: Balance 4, Concentration 2, Swim 1, Tumble 1, Spot 1, Move Silently 1, Heal 2, UMD 1
2 Monk 2 (Monk: THF)
Skills: Balance 1, UMD 1.5
3 Druid 1 (Level: Mobility)
Skills: Heal 4
4 Monk 3
Skills: Balance 2, UMD 0.5, Heal 0.5
5 Monk 4
Skills: Balance 1, Concentration 1, UMD 0.5, Heal 0.5
6 Monk 5 (Level: Weapon Focus)
Skills: Balance 1, Concentration 1, UMD 0.5, Heal 0.5
7 Monk 6 (Monk: Deflect Arrows)
Skills: Balance 1, Concentration 1, UMD 0.5, Heal 1
8 Monk 7
Skills: Balance 1, Concentration 1, UMD 0.5, Heal 1
9 Monk 8 (Level: Great Cleave)
Skills: Balance 1, Concentration 1, UMD 0.5, Heal 1
10 Fighter 1 (Fighter: ITHF)
Skills: Jump 1, UMD 0.5, Heal 0.5
11 Fighter 2 (Fighter: Improved Critical: Slashing)
Skills: Balance 0.5, UMD 0.5, Heal 0.5
12 Fighter 3 (Level: Master of Forms)
Skills: UMD 0.5, Heal 1
13 Fighter 4 (Fighter: Weapon Specialization)
Skills: UMD 0.5, Heal 1
14 Fighter 5
Skills: UMD 0.5, Heal 1
15 Fighter 6 (Fighter: GTHF, Level: Empower Healing Spell)
Skills: Balance 1, UMD 0.5, Heal 0.5
16 Fighter 7
Skills: Balance 0.5, UMD 1, Heal 0.5
17 Fighter 8 (Fighter: Greater Weapon Focus)
Skills: Balance 1, UMD 0.5, Heal 0.5
18 Monk 9 (Level: Grandmaster of Forms)
Skills: Balance 5, UMD 0.5
19 Druid 2
Skills: Heal 6
20 Monk 10
Skills: Heal 1, Balance 3, UMD 0.5
21 Overwhelming Critical
24 Toughness
26 ED: Perfect THF
27 Epic Damage Reduction
28 ED: Toughness

Kensei (33)
1 Kensei Focus
6 Extra Action Boost III
2 Kensei Weapon Specialization I
1 Spiritual Bond
1 Strike With No Thought
3 Haste Boost III
2 Kensei Weapon Specialization II
6 Improved Dodge III
2 Weapon Meditation I
1 Shattering Strike I
2 Kensei Weapon Specialization III
2 Kensei Weapon Specialization IV
1 Reed in the Wind (filler)
1 Keen Edge
1 Deadly Strike
1 One with The Blade

Ninja Spy (11)
1 Ninja Training I
3 Acrobatic III
2 Sneak Attack Training I
1 Ninja Training II
2 Fists of Iron
1 Agility I
1 Shadow Veil

Shintao (11)
1 Bastion of Purity
2 Ki Shout (filler)
2 Exemplar II (filler)
1 Protection from Tainted Creatures
4 Iron Skin II
1 Iron Hand

Human (17)
1 Damage Boost
2 Constitution
2 Improved Recovery I
1 Dont Count Me Out I
4 Action Surge: Constitution II
2 Improved Recovery II
1 Defense Boost
2 Strength
2 Improved Recovery III 

Nature's Warrior (8)
1 Nature's Warrior
3 Athletic III (filler)
1 Shifting Rake I (filler)
3 Action Boost: Double Strike

Legendary Dreadnought
1: Strength (2), Extra Action Boost II (2)
2: Strength (2), Improved Power Attack (2), Momentum Swing (3)
3: Haste Boost III (3), Lay Waste (2)
4: None
5: Advancing Blows (2), Devastating Critical (2)
6: Master's Blitz (2), Headman's Chop (2)

Twists:
Standing with Stone
A Dance with Flowers
Rejuvenation Cocoon

PRR:
10 Epic Damage Reduction feat
15 Artifact (Planar Conflux)
16 Enhancement (augment)
15 Grandmaster Earth stance
15 Standing in Stone
10 Iron Skin
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81 PRR = 36.2% damage reduction
10 Human: Defense Boost
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91 PRR = 38.9% damage reduction
03 Don't Count Me Out I (below 50% HP)
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94 PRR = 39.7% damage reduction

Dodge:
08 item
06 Monk
03 Dodge feat
02 Mobility feat
03 Acrobatic (Ninja Spy)
03 Improved Dodge (Kensei)
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25% Dodge

Healing Amp:
30% Human
05% Paladin past life
15% Shintao
30% Gear
10% Ship
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= 224% Healing Amp

Positive Spell Power:
114 Ruby of Devotion augment
075 Empower Heal Spell
046 Heal skill
024 Implement bonus
030 Shintao
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289
024 (Delta for new ML28 138 Ruby of Devotion augment)
015 Heal skill augment
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328 Positive Spell Power for Rejuv Cocoon

Doublestrike:
03 Artifact (Flawless Black Dragon set)
06 Item (Clever)
01 Strike with No Thought (Kensei)
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10% Doublestrike

This build has 10 uses of LD 30% Haste Boost, Kensei 30% Haste Boost and Nature's Warrior 30% Double Strike.  That's 10 continuous minutes of +30% additional damage, which is plenty of go-go juice between shrines.

Gear:
Weapon: Clever, Hewer of Suffering (Red Augment: 114 Positive Spell Power)
Quiver: EE Quiver of Poison
Trinket: Planar Focus of Prowess of +3 STR
Belt: EE Girdle of Giants' Brawn (green: 35 HP, yellow: +2 insightful CON)
Bracer: 30% healing amp of Superior Parrying
Gloves: EE Nether Grasps
Chest: Black Dragon (blue: Good Luck)
Hat: EE Black Dragon +8 CON (green: 14 PRR, yellow: +1 exceptional all stats)
Goggles: EE Dream Visor (yellow: 20 Vitality)
Back: Adamantine Cloak of the Wolf
Feet: Kundarak Delving Boots
Neck: EE Jorgundal's Collar (Green: 15 Heal skill, Yellow: Draconic Soul Gem)
Ring1: EE Ring of the Djinn
Ring2: Ancient Band (heavy fort, +7 resist)

Stats:
STR 18 (16 points) + 5 tome + 8 item + 3 insightful + 1 exceptional + 2 yugo + 2 ship + 6 level ups + 2 ED + 2 Ram's Might + 1 human + 2 Profane = 52
DEX 14 (6 points) + 4 tome + 1 exceptional + 2 ship - 2 stance = 19
CON 17 (13 points) + 4 tome + 8 item + 2 insightful + 1 exceptional + 4 stance + 2 ship + 2 yugo + 1 racial + 1 level up + 2 Action Surge = 44
INT 8 + 4 tome + 1 exceptional + 2 ship = 15
WIS 9 (1 points) + 4 tome + 1 exceptional + 2 ship = 16
CHA 8 + 4 tome + 1 exceptional + 2 ship = 15

Weapon Profile: Cleaver, Hewer of Suffering
045 3.0[2d8] base + 1.5 A Dance with Flowers + 0.5 Improved Power Attack
031 STR bonus
010 Power Attack
005 Visor
004 Conflux
006 Kensei
008 Enchantment
002 Ram's Might
002 Weapon Specialization
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113 average base damage
005 Advancing Blows
003 Battle Meditation (3 Kensei Core Abilities)
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121 average base damage (situational)
Crit Profile: 17-18/x3, 19-20/x7

HP:
025 Heroic Durability
015 Improved Heroic Durability
010 Draconic Vitality
080 Monk 10
080 Fighter 8
016 Druid 2
080 Epic
020 Vitality item
035 False Life item
060 Toughness feat x2
050 Legendary Dreadnaught
020 Yugoloth HP portion
476 +17 CON bonus
008 Nature's Warrior
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975
020 Barbarian Past Life x2 (optional)
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995

F/R/W Saves:
03/00/03 Druid 2
07/07/07 Monk 10
06/02/02 Fighter 8
04/04/04 Epic 8
17/04/03 CON/DEX/WIS bonus
01/01/01 Competence (Eldritch Ritual)
04/04/04 Morale (Greater Heroism)
02/02/02 Luck (Augment)
04/04/04 Insightful (Superior Parrying)
07/07/07 Resistance (augment)
01/01/01 Sacred (Blessing of the Three Dragons)
00/01/00 Agility (Ninja Spy)
00/00/-4 Yugoloth STR drawback
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54/37/34
00/00/02 Monk Still Mind (vs. enchantments)
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54/37/36 (circumstantial)

Skills:
45 Balance = 23 ranks + 8 epic + 4 Morale (Greater Heroism) + 2 Luck (Augment) + 1 Profane (Elite Spider Cult Mask) + 4 DEX bonus + 3 Acrobatic + 3 Athletic

40 Concentration = 7 Ranks + 8 epic + 4 Morale (Greater Heroism) + 2 Luck (Augment) + 1 Profane (Elite Spider Cult Mask) + 17 CON bonus + 1 Agility

46 Heal = 23 ranks + 8 epic + 4 Morale (Greater Heroism) + 2 Luck (Augment) + 1 Profane (Elite Spider Cult Mask) + 3 WIS bonus + 3 tome + 2 Exemplar

43 Jump = 1 rank + 8 epic + 4 Morale (Greater Heroism) + 2 Luck (Augment) + 1 Profane (Elite Spider Cult Mask) + 21 STR bonus + 3 Acrobatic + 3 Athletic

30 Move Silently = 1 ranks + 8 epic + 4 Morale (Greater Heroism) + 2 Luck (Augment) + 1 Profane (Elite Spider Cult Mask) + 4 DEX bonus + 5 Competence (boots) + 5 Enhancement (Pass Without Trace)

51 Swim = 1 rank + 8 epic + 4 Morale (Greater Heroism) + 2 Luck (Augment) + 1 Profane (Elite Spider Cult Mask) + 21 STR bonus + 3 Athletic + 11 Enhancement (Merfolk's Blessing)

39 Spot = 1 rank + 8 epic + 4 Morale (Greater Heroism) + 2 Luck (Augment) + 1 Profane (Elite Spider Cult Mask) + 3 WIS bonus + 20 item

23 Tumble = 1 rank + 8 epic + 4 Morale (Greater Heroism) + 2 Luck (Augment) + 1 Profane (Elite Spider Cult Mask) + 4 DEX bonus + 3 Acrobatic

28 UMD = 11 ranks + 8 epic + 4 Morale (Greater Heroism) + 2 Luck (Augment) + 1 Profane (Elite Spider Cult Mask) + 2 CHA bonus
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Re: U19 THF Clever
Reply #1 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 3:44pm
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Updated Positive Spell Power calc. Each Shintao core ability now provides +10 Positive Spell Power.
  
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Re: U19 THF Clever
Reply #2 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 7:56pm
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Any thoughts on incorporating manyshot and 10k star?

Loved the burst dps while I was playing my jug and would hate to let pinion gather dust in the bank.

I would be cycling 10k and manyshot and cleaving in the 30 remaining sec. To fit in all the feats it would have to be a monk/fighter/ranger variant. The burst dps should be > then the druid doublestrike.

Any thoughts?
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 10:25pm
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Sham wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 7:56pm:
Any thoughts on incorporating manyshot and 10k star?

That's an AA build.  Lots of discussion about it in that thread.
  
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Reply #4 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 11:20pm
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It's a good build, but I really wonder why you insist on calling the weapon "Clever".
  
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Reply #5 - Aug 11th, 2013 at 12:13am
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LafoMamone wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 11:20pm:
It's a good build, but I really wonder why you insist on calling the weapon "Clever".

He hates lowercase "a"s??
  

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Reply #6 - Aug 11th, 2013 at 1:16am
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Meh just a typo.
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 11th, 2013 at 2:06am
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Carpone wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 1:16am:
Meh just a typo.


Awww...and here I thought that it was very cleaver!
  

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Reply #8 - Aug 11th, 2013 at 3:22pm
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> 02/00/02 Druid 2

3/0/3
  
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Reply #9 - Aug 11th, 2013 at 8:56pm
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I like the build. If you went elf for displacement, would you drop the 2 toughness feats or mobility? The other option would be to drop all 3 to get extend as well.

From human you would lose the healing amp, but if you changed to breach, you could gain the elf racial bonus to falcions?

I suppose you could just use displacement clickies from Shroud.
  
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the problem with breach is that it sucks

i read somewhere that they have removed the weapon focus feats from kensai tree ? if thats true you could drop 2 fighter levels for monk levels and get yummy wings
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fluffi wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 8:56pm:
I like the build. If you went elf for displacement, would you drop the 2 toughness feats or mobility? The other option would be to drop all 3 to get extend as well.

From human you would lose the healing amp, but if you changed to breach, you could gain the elf racial bonus to falcions?

I suppose you could just use displacement clickies from Shroud.

I wouldn't consider Elf since Green Steel displacement clickies work just fine.  I've tried builds with lower healing amp options and I've hated them.

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i read somewhere that they have removed the weapon focus feats from kensai tree ?

That's aspirational.  The feats are still required in Open Beta.

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Reply #12 - Aug 12th, 2013 at 12:24pm
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Carpone wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 9:39am:
...Build stuff...



Since they changed Defender of Siberys (or whatever it's called now) so that the BEST abilities only work with a shield, I will try this build with my Bladeforged toon when LRs and TRs become available to them. He's got a Drow Greataxe and uses Stunning Blow as much as possible.

Should be interesting...
  

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Reply #13 - Aug 12th, 2013 at 1:59pm
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Because cocoon hjealing on cuntforged makes so much sense.
  
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Wipe wrote on Aug 12th, 2013 at 1:59pm:
Because cocoon hjealing on cuntforged makes so much sense.

Wouldn't need Cocoon on a Bladeforged. They get Reconstruct as a Racial Enhancement. Costs 25 SP and they can do it every 6 seconds if they take all three tiers of Communion of Scribing.  Tongue
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Carpone wrote on Aug 12th, 2013 at 7:06am:
That's aspirational.  The feats are still required in Open Beta.


You keep using that word, I don't think I know what it means.

and needing a fighter lvl8 weapon focus feat for a fighter lvl4 is just as moronic as pally gettin divine might as lvl2 enhancement while only getting turns at lvl4, but oh well I kinda learned to expect such bullshit, after all it's turdbine
  
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Reply #16 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 5:19pm
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Probably a stupid question, but does One With The Blade work with ToD burst rings?
  
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Reply #17 - Aug 19th, 2013 at 5:27pm
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tachyon wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 5:19pm:
Probably a stupid question, but does One With The Blade work with ToD burst rings?


they only work with unarmed (animal / woad count as unarmed.)
  

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Reply #18 - Aug 22nd, 2013 at 8:43am
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Been playing this on my latest TR life, sitting about 100k from level 20.  Been pretty dang enjoyable even with my AH'd level 18 greataxe.

Finding it annoying that every time I log on, I have to unequip the axe and put it back on after the enhancements have "kicked in".
  
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Reply #19 - Aug 22nd, 2013 at 11:36am
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Carpone wrote on Aug 10th, 2013 at 9:39am:
Nature's Warrior (8)
1 Nature's Warrior
3 Athletic III (filler)
1 Shifting Rake I (filler)
3 Action Boost: Double Strike



playing this build as well, the only difference imho Beguile 3 > everything in the Nature's Warrior line including double strike boost. I expect this will get nerfed.
  

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Reply #20 - Aug 22nd, 2013 at 11:45am
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I agree, and luckily only 4ap, so it's not too hard to fit it in. It definitely makes a 2Drd splash potent, and it's a must-have for any druid IMO.
  
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Reply #21 - Aug 22nd, 2013 at 4:58pm
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Cripey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2013 at 11:36am:
playing this build as well, the only difference imho Beguile 3 > everything in the Nature's Warrior line including double strike boost. I expect this will get nerfed.

I know the power of Beguile.  I specifically didn't mention it after testing it on Lamannia.

The cat is out of the bag with Beguile now.  It works on red named and some purple named like Truthful One and Gianthold Tor bosses.

When Iconics can be chosen for a TR race, the optimal version of this build will be Bladeforged.  6 AP for 25 SP Reconstruct is fucking amazing.
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Reply #22 - Aug 23rd, 2013 at 1:59pm
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Finally got the build to 20 last night and got access to my epic destinies.

I have 22 haste boosts and 11 doublestrike boosts.  All 20 second durations with 20 second cooldowns.  Gives me 11 minutes STRAIGHT of boosts.

Was this expected and I'm just too blind to have seen it?  Should I play with enhancements to drop the #?  Not even sure what to do with that many...
  
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Reply #23 - Aug 23rd, 2013 at 5:11pm
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Sindarin wrote on Aug 23rd, 2013 at 1:59pm:
Not even sure what to do with that many...


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Sindarin wrote on Aug 23rd, 2013 at 1:59pm:
Finally got the build to 20 last night and got access to my epic destinies.

I have 22 haste boosts and 11 doublestrike boosts.  All 20 second durations with 20 second cooldowns.  Gives me 11 minutes STRAIGHT of boosts.

Was this expected and I'm just too blind to have seen it?  Should I play with enhancements to drop the #?  Not even sure what to do with that many...

It's part of the design.  Have fun, it's a blast to play.

Three gear changes I will be making on what I've seen so far:
  • Guardian's Ring (24 PRR, +8 STR, Yellow slot) replaces Ancient Band.  Heavy Fort is slotted in the helm, Resistance moves to Jorgundal's Collar.  It's an 8 PRR net gain.
  • Goggles: Deadly of Accurate ML28 Wondrous Crafting (+10 to each). 
  • Belt: +10 CON of Dodge 10% (ML28).  False Life augment moves to chest, replacing +2 Good Luck augment.  Black Dragon Helm swaps to +3 CON version.

For now I'll keep the 30% hamp/Sup Parrying bracers and the EE Nether Grasps from the pre-U19 gear list.


More on the Bladeforged tangent:

I'm already thinking of U20 and the possibilities of Bladeforged.  If Paladin is required, then I'll most likely do 8 Fighter/6 Monk/6 Paladin.  Quicken Reconstruct replaces Empower Healing Spell/Rejuv Cocoon, so 4 Paladin is needed.  4 Paladin is also needed for Divine Might charges.  The additional 2 levels net Bladesworn Transformation and +1/+1 to Divine Favor, which is better than anything gained from 10 Fighter or 8 Monk. 

Gear wise, most of it transfers over.  Ditching Kundark Warding Boots for Goatskin Boots allows Stormreaver's Pendant to replace Jorgundal's Collar.  The bracer slot opens up too, as 30% hamp/Sup Parrying bracers can be easily replaced (Insight saves would be nice elsewhere).

I swore off TRing due to the asinine quest decay system, but I'd suffer through it for this case.
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