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Cleric DC - What am I missing
Jan 27th, 2014 at 2:16pm
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Theorycrafting a build, this is what I have for evo DC(cleric), missing anything or is this about right.

10      base
9      spell (heighten)
25      Wisdom mod
5      twists
2      augment
5      item
2      enhancment
3      evo feats
1      wiz active feat
3      sorc pl
65      Total
  

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EDIT: BTW I love your post.  It reads as if English is your 3rd language behind gibberish and dipshit.


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what the fuck guys...

Jeesus fucking shit. This shit gets me called to the principals office.

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Reply #1 - Jan 27th, 2014 at 2:27pm
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Looks right. Could squeeze a few more out with more wisdom. Not sure if more than 60 is available or sustainable. Depends on your build I suppose, and I never looked that far into it.
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Reply #2 - Jan 27th, 2014 at 2:28pm
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I'm sure with all the crap you've acquired you can get more than a 60 wisdom.
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 27th, 2014 at 2:43pm
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I guess for wisdom it'd be

18 base
11 item
07 levels
06 destiny (assuming a wis destiny)
05 tome
03 insight
02 primal (assuming PA destiny)
02 twist (acute instincts + rage)
02 completionist
02 enhancements (or 4, if you can go far enough into both trees. I don't know if it's possible)
02 capstone
02 ship
02 yugo
01 litany
01 globe
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66 (68 if you can get more WIS from enhancements)


Bleh that sucks. Net 2 more if you splash monk to give up the capstone, but you'll have to take 3 more feats.

All that work for 3 more DC is unlikely to be worth it. Just twist in the debuff from magister :p
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Reply #4 - Jan 27th, 2014 at 3:02pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Jan 27th, 2014 at 2:28pm:
I'm sure with all the crap you've acquired you can get more than a 60 wisdom.


Yeah Wisdom is tweakable but the mod is in the calc. I was thinking i was missing something else that affected evo dc but sounds like I got most the dc impacting features in.
  

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EDIT: BTW I love your post.  It reads as if English is your 3rd language behind gibberish and dipshit.


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Jeesus fucking shit. This shit gets me called to the principals office.

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Reply #5 - Jan 27th, 2014 at 3:54pm
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Get Heighten.

Turn on Heighten.
  

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Reply #6 - Jan 27th, 2014 at 4:27pm
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Cripey wrote on Jan 27th, 2014 at 2:16pm:
9      spell (heighten)

NOTSunnyshadow wrote on Jan 27th, 2014 at 3:54pm:
Get Heighten.

Turn on Heighten.



Pay attention new guy.
  
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Reply #7 - Jan 27th, 2014 at 4:29pm
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He or she still has to turn it on!


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Reply #8 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 3:51am
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Maybe it will help you.
Turning sucks.
You can definitely sustain 66 or more wis, this is without Litany or alchemical ( omg why didn't I run this gay raid before the dupe week, it's such a big waste of time shortmanning it now, I can't stand it )or completionist ( which you would need do ditch empower for I suppose, I swear if someone  start how it's EASY to get 2 monk on a casting cleric again... )

68 evo, 55 necro and conjuration ( situationally useful )atm
OH AND IMPLOSION IS STILL FUCKING BUGGY AS SHIT if you have 3 or 4 folks with you, say hello to complete waste of sp half the time ( aka run first to get some kills so you don't have anyone near you ).
Soundburst will be sweet in u 21 though.

You can get :
69 with completionist
70 alchemical
71 litany + rage pots ( I just can't, I forget half the time so fuck it, only 1 wis twist )
72 store pot
73 bard
74 Ascendance ( every 5 mins )

Only 1 wis in human tree.
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Reply #9 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 2:51pm
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Cripey wrote on Jan 27th, 2014 at 2:16pm:
25      Wisdom mod


Lots more Wisdom.

18 base
+7 level-ups
+11 Enhancement item
+3 Insightful item
+2 Alchemical item
+1 Exceptional item
+1 Litany of the Dead
+2 Completionist
+6 destiny
+2 Great Wisdom feats
+5 tome
+2 Ship buffs
+1 racial enhancement (Human/Half-Elf)
+4 Tree #1 (2 Wisdom plus capstone)
+2 Tree #2 (either other Cleric tree)
+1 Tree #3 (the 3rd Cleric tree or Half-elf Dil)
+2 Twist Acute Instincts (and drink Rage potion)
+2 Yugoloth potion
--
72 total sustainable pure Cleric Wisdom

Plus $$$ or non-sustainable things like store pots, Ascendance, bard song, Abishai cookies, etc..

There's more breakdowns on the official forums in this thread:
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/422593-Post-expansion-DC-divine-theory...
  
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Reply #10 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:08pm
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yo lester, which twists do you run?
  

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Reply #11 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:51pm
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3 evo Magister, 2 evo Draconic and 1 wis cause I am too lazy to drink rage pots and my wizzy or bard or Primal Screaming friends are even worse.
Or absorb for Fot, used to Cocoon + hjealing spring for Citw solo hjealing ( doesn't matter now ).
Boulder, Avenging light or Eburst for levelling of destinies.
It's kinda one trick pony now but what the heck, it's still good in < Stormhorns.
For that I bring my monkcher or ranger.

Past the point of giving a damn what they do to castery divines,  still having fun, but not a solo toon or for carrying a party.
Good news is new destiny supposedly melee, so FUCK YEAH ! lol
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Reply #12 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:51pm
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thanks, and meh stormhorns.....YAY ENDLESS GREEN THIS IS FUN WOWZORS.
  

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Reply #13 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:51pm
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oh now we're in a cave.
  

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Reply #14 - Feb 4th, 2014 at 3:03pm
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Alright you stupid retards.
What fucking "tough raid" you mean where Sentinel is better idea ? What the hell are you "tanking" ?
Why do you think moving Renewal to stupid Sentinel is a good idea ?

What is needed is all around good castery destiny, not some "defensive and hjeal" ( I mean what the fuck is that and who are you gonna heal these days anyway ) POS.

But sure, please go on, join EH raids with you 45 DC in stupid Sentinel because you can't stop dying. Jesus Christ.

OMG RAGE.

  
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Reply #15 - Feb 4th, 2014 at 6:26pm
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Wipe wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 3:03pm:
Alright you stupid retards.
What fucking "tough raid" you mean where Sentinel is better idea ? What the hell are you "tanking" ?
Why do you think moving Renewal to stupid Sentinel is a good idea ?

What is needed is all around good castery destiny, not some "defensive and hjeal" ( I mean what the fuck is that and who are you gonna heal these days anyway ) POS.

But sure, please go on, join EH raids with you 45 DC in stupid Sentinel because you can't stop dying. Jesus Christ.

OMG RAGE.



healbots need sentinel, because 1k HPs is needed to heal epic hard........
  

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Reply #16 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 5:13am
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My diary :
Most likely scenario :

New half assed destiny that no melee will use ( cause Fury and LD is not enough ), and too much fluff for castery hjealzors to consider it.

Since horrible paladins get a hard on when they hear CRUSADER!!!!!!111111!!!, let's make it melee.
PROTIP : Your shitty sword and board ( or whatever the f you play ) will still suck no matter which destiny you choose.
  
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Reply #17 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 1:48pm
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Please excuse profanity in those horrible posts.
Turdbine constantly killing hjealzors is driving me crazy.
Level 13 on Madmatt-Shade™ rage 1-10 scale.

I will try to help old people cross the road next week.
  
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Reply #18 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 2:07pm
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Meh... i personally like my S&B cleric thing atm.. (soon to be fvs/pally/fighter) and, unless they drastically fuck up Crusader from what ive already tested Pre-Lama.. it will be her main ED. Jumped on Lama Last week, only to find chara copy still fails.. so had to roll a fresh gimp, though used the same build i plan for my live Cleric. and the dmg output was rather cute... Average of 90 Base dmg + fluff stuff without using ablities, Confront any Foe was fun.. dealing between 110-150 base dmg + 10d10 light dmg * 3 hits per use of the ability.. roughly 400 base dmg + 180 light dmg / click. She has 24 uses of the ability. and recharge at a rate of.. 1/90 seconds or so.

Is she a rage barbarian run into the room and cleave kill it all dead... no..

is she a self sustainable build that i enjoy playing, and will continue to enjoy playing, regarless of what twits think a cleric is "supposed" to be... hell yes... She gets the job done, even on EE, all by herself.. without too many issues.. does it take her a lil longer.. sure.. but i still get it done. ^-^
  
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Reply #19 - Feb 6th, 2014 at 6:18am
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Vendui wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 2:07pm:
, even on EE, all by herself.. without too many issues.. does it take her a lil longer.. sure.. but i still get it done. ^-^

What EEs would these be by chance?
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Reply #20 - Feb 6th, 2014 at 2:55pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Feb 6th, 2014 at 6:18am:
What EEs would these be by chance?


Currently testing her out in EE wheloon crap. Wont touch Stormhorn with her.. yet.. can do Almost all of Ebberon EEs without too much issues, asside from  von 4, 5/6, Soloed Shroud Elite with her.. cuz i was bored.. took 3 hours.. but i did it.. ^-^, Hvnt run out to Sands yet to test those, can do most of Gianthold, still working out Crucible and PoP though (her saves arent the best, so traps tickle a lil) but overall.. she turned out much better than i thought she would.. Crusader will increase her dmg output exponentially.. Shes no Monkcher/Shiradi spammer.. but dammit.. i like her xD
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Reply #21 - Feb 28th, 2014 at 11:24am
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Cripey wrote on Jan 27th, 2014 at 2:16pm:
Theorycrafting a build, this is what I have for evo DC(cleric), missing anything or is this about right.

10      base
9      spell (heighten)
25      Wisdom mod
5      twists
2      augment
5      item
2      enhancment
3      evo feats
1      wiz active feat
3      sorc pl
65      Total


Only 5 for item?  Hard to get but aren't there +12 Wis items. so can get 1 more from there.
  
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Reply #22 - Feb 28th, 2014 at 11:26am
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RynD wrote on Feb 28th, 2014 at 11:24am:
Only 5 for item?  Hard to get but aren't there +12 Wis items. so can get 1 more from there.


5 DC item. Likely the Sage's Locket. Not +5 wisdom item... You see the line where it says "25 wisdom mod"? That equals a 60 wisdom.


  
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Reply #23 - Feb 28th, 2014 at 11:52am
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rest wrote on Feb 28th, 2014 at 11:26am:
5 DC item. Likely the Sage's Locket. Not +5 wisdom item... You see the line where it says "25 wisdom mod"? That equals a 60 wisdom.



Ah okay. Cool.
  
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Reply #24 - May 14th, 2014 at 11:46pm
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helpful.
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