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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Epic Druid Winter wolf build Reply #25 - Mar 9^th, 2014 at 3:19am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Mar 9^th, 2014 at 1:19am: You dont have to take them last since the build isnt maxing wisdom. It would add 2/3 points of dc to stun with slight investment into charisma. Have a look at his base Dex, and consider why fighter is at 19/20 (+5 tomes kick in at level 19) It's not quite that easy to get charisma to DC's.� For that to� happen your cha needs to be higher than your strength.� It would be quite a large difference in stat distribution.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Epic Druid Winter wolf build Reply #26 - Mar 9^th, 2014 at 3:47am	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Mar 9^th, 2014 at 3:19am: Have a look at his base Dex, and consider why fighter is at 19/20 (+5 tomes kick in at level 19) It's not quite that easy to get charisma to DC's.� For that to� happen your cha needs to be higher than your strength.� It would be quite a large difference in stat distribution. Oh yeah that would make it pretty hard on stats if he took OC line and still wanted high wisdom.. Completely forgot about the OC line there. I dumped str on my pdk qp monk/ How ever con suffered a bit and I took 3 toughness feats. But my qp dc is at 80 and stun fist 84.
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tachyon Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 369 Joined: Jun 28^th, 2013	Re: Epic Druid Winter wolf build Reply #27 - Mar 9^th, 2014 at 3:54am	Print Post
	totally wrote on Mar 4^th, 2014 at 9:44am: Spell list is the other thing I wanted to think about. Currently I'm running: 1. Jump, Magic Fang, Produce Flame, Ram's Might, Takedown 2. Resist Energy, Lesser restoration, creeping cold, align fang, barkskin 3. Protection from Energy, remove disease, Sleet storm, baiting bite 4. FOM, Ice Storm, Harrowing pack 5. Cure crit and wall of fire/deathward Produce flame and creeping cold are very rarely used, lesser restore and remove disease just save a slot on a pot, but I don't really see much else at those levels to bother with really. I really should try and fit in a +10 trip item as I also find takedowns DC a bit low, although if I up my wisdom a bit, that could again make a difference. Wall of Fire I've only ever really situationally used in undead heavy heroic quests. Sleet/ice storm combo is way too useful otherwise. Is lightning storm worth it instead of deathward? Again, it's just saving inventory space on a couple of clickies. I guess I could pick up greater vigor instead, but it doesn't stack with cocoon does it? Cocoon and vigor spells stack. Spell list looks fine, doesn't really matter as well since you can switch them out at shrines\etc. I don't think Lightning storm would be extremely useful for you.


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totally DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 457 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: Epic Druid Winter wolf build Reply #28 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 5:34am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Mar 8^th, 2014 at 8:09pm: Think it's 150 temp hp not 250. Depending on your build you can get the 30% from human/pdk, another 30% hamp on pdk turn in glove, 20% bracers, 15% shintao core 3, and the cleric turn in ring for heal lore 16%. With positive power 200-250 cocoon should hit for 140-390 on crits. Magical training is 5% lore stacks with the lore ring for 21% to crit on your cocoons. Scroll mastery line would let heal scrolls hit for 510 there. Scroll mastery is a mite too expensive for my tastes, if I'm using a scroll it's because I'm between fights, I don't really care if I have to pop one or two. I can't get that much from human and get everything else I want, and I wouldn't pick up PDK as it would involve completely changing the build (much as I love the idea of being the big dawg on the farm ) My numbers on the cocoon were average, and by initial hp, I meant the 150 temp hp + the initial tick of 100 average. tachyon wrote on Mar 9^th, 2014 at 3:54am: Cocoon and vigor spells stack. Spell list looks fine, doesn't really matter as well since you can switch them out at shrines\etc. I don't think Lightning storm would be extremely useful for you. Yeah, I went back and experimented with it again. I still prefer having access to the burst heal of cure crit I think. In terms of the other spells, just wanted to make sure I wasn't taking anything totally useless or missing anything amazing. Didn't think I was.


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TractorsareEpic Titan Demolisher Online I Love Drama! Posts: 385 Joined: Apr 26^th, 2013	Re: Epic Druid Winter wolf build Reply #29 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 1:00pm	Print Post
	Huh? W&SM is 4ap in the Season's Herald Druid tree 1st tier at the bottom. 1AP for the 1st core then 3AP for full. Or do you mean to expensive plat wise?
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tachyon Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 369 Joined: Jun 28^th, 2013	Re: Epic Druid Winter wolf build Reply #30 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 1:55pm	Print Post
	TractorsareEpic wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 1:00pm: Huh? W&SM is 4ap in the Season's Herald Druid tree 1st tier at the bottom. 1AP for the 1st core then 3AP for full. Or do you mean to expensive plat wise? AP wise. There is so many goodies that you can't pick up depending on your enhancements. Fatal Harrier, extra WIS/STR, No Mercy, more heal amp, tactics from fighter, Beguile....


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TractorsareEpic Titan Demolisher Online I Love Drama! Posts: 385 Joined: Apr 26^th, 2013	Re: Epic Druid Winter wolf build Reply #31 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 2:08pm	Print Post
	Gotcha, yeah a lot of multiclass builds are AP tight, it sucks. The core enhancements should NOT cost ANY ap imo/ymmw. That would potentially free some AP up on a lot of builds. I don't think it would be OP. They also need to make the core enhancements better for pure classes, show them some love. But Turbine gonna Turbine so :\.


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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: Epic Druid Winter wolf build Reply #32 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 6:02pm	Print Post
	tachyon wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 1:55pm: AP wise. There is so many goodies that you can't pick up depending on your enhancements. Fatal Harrier, extra WIS/STR, No Mercy, more heal amp, tactics from fighter, Beguile.... Any enhancement that's a stance can be had for plat alone, including Fatal Harrier and Reaving Roar

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tachyon Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 369 Joined: Jun 28^th, 2013	Re: Epic Druid Winter wolf build Reply #33 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 6:19pm	Print Post
	Persiflage wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 6:02pm: Any enhancement that's a stance can be had for plat alone, including Fatal Harrier and Reaving Roar� � That takes effort though....


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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: Epic Druid Winter wolf build Reply #34 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 10:17pm	Print Post
	tachyon wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 6:19pm: That takes effort though....� Only a couple of minutes... and it's once-and-done. You don't have to repeat the process. Why wouldn't you? Even a minor advantage is worth it for essentially free

	stainer wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:26am: Oh you are good. I will be watching you. QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am: You are an evil human being.� m4lacka wrote on Mar 29^th, 2014 at 7:04am: wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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tachyon Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 369 Joined: Jun 28^th, 2013	Re: Epic Druid Winter wolf build Reply #35 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 10:27pm	Print Post
	Persiflage wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 10:17pm: Only a couple of minutes... and it's once-and-done. You don't have to repeat the process. Why wouldn't you? Even a minor advantage is worth it for essentially free� turns off on logout, no?


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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: Epic Druid Winter wolf build Reply #36 - Mar 11^th, 2014 at 4:43am	Print Post
	tachyon wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 10:27pm: turns off on logout, no? No. Not at all. I'll report back soonish on whether it persists through TR

	stainer wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:26am: Oh you are good. I will be watching you. QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am: You are an evil human being.� m4lacka wrote on Mar 29^th, 2014 at 7:04am: wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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tachyon Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 369 Joined: Jun 28^th, 2013	Re: Epic Druid Winter wolf build Reply #37 - Mar 11^th, 2014 at 9:24am	Print Post
	Persiflage wrote on Mar 11^th, 2014 at 4:43am: No.� Not at all.� I'll report back soonish on whether it persists through TR� � This could be good. Could just drop nature's warrior for +2 WIS, No Mercy, and fighter tactics. Might even have enough to take Meditation of War too.


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