Daze wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 5:30pm:


Whoosh!

This is what I said on the main forums.

I think this might be really hard for some people to understand my stance I will make an attempt to try and explain it. I think making those unrelated words bad words to use, and unacceptable is a victory for the racists and the people just using it to gain attention. They have gotten what they want, drawn attention to the issue in a negative way and gotten the rest of us to respond in a negative way, symbolically showing their power over us to insult and hurt us to such an extent that we all react to ban unrelated words. So we lose the use of some more vocabulary and they have gained another thing they know they can use to niggle people. Or is niggle going to be another one of those words to go on the list? That is a very popular word used in this part of the world, especially around sports here.

The best reaction to someone trying to get a rise out of people by using that word in its correct context but secretly trying to get a reaction is to......ignore it. Reply and use the word in its correct context, it would be even more deflating for those kinds of people to see african americans or other people who are suppose to be the ones that type of racial slur is aimed at, correctly using niggardly and other words like it without batting an eyelid. Your filthy word has no power over us, we can use words that sound like it and it does not bother us. If any word should fall out of use the racial slur itself should not the other unrelated ones. Banning and taking action like this against other words just empowers the slur more, shows how much weight it has and keeps it alive longer.

I would also like to add a little on that, and if some of my bias comes out oh well.

I think I might of repeated this but on the mother forums and on here there is a lot of non-u.s posters, not all of us are familiar with your customs, traditions and culture, yes nearly all of us are aware of the N word but not the whole niggardly and any word sounding like and spelled similar might cause offense.

OK now we know, fine, but as I said this is an international media unless you do not want the contributions of us who do not belong to your country? You want your culture to be respected? Well I would ask for the same, and it includes now apparently making a an honest mistake that might offend, and not laughing it off.

I have american friends, on here on in RL, and I have unfortunately met some in person and seen many online who seem to think that only their feelings of what is appropriate matter and if other peoples customs or traditions don't meet what they think is appropriate its ok to mock and poke fun at it. That's fine, but then these same people when confronted with the same thing in return or worse not even the same thing but someone not intending to offend but being confused about their reasoning as to why it is so offensive that person is attacked.

I always thought of these kinds of people as being in the tiniest of minorities, I have rethought that, and while I still think its a minority I do not still think its as small as I first thought.

I do have a few family friends in the states and family as well, and they visit here, but I don't think I am too keen on returning their invitations. My mother has to travel to europe several times a year at times for her work and she does all she can to make sure she does not travel through the states.

iliveyourdream13 wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 10:10am:



Ok I almost believe you know about it from this one line alone, but honestly I have never had a problem in most of the older parts of Chicago like this, only visited for a few weeks at a time (my ex-wife grew up in Bremen).

Just don't do something stupid (of course the post was about being stupid...) and don't mess with the drug scene and its not too bad of a place. No, I haven't spent much time after midnight in those areas.

Bla bla bla

Shame, thinks Chicago is all bad ass ......... go for a walk in Hillbrow - during the day - for perspective 

Hell even better, get lost in a township during election time. Those badboy's you are trying to pass off as so rough and tough would cry to mommy.

Rubbinns wrote on Apr 24^th, 2014 at 3:42pm:


Oh, in the 40´s we did great at killing people, here in Europe.

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Stalin was better. 

crazytiger wrote on Apr 25^th, 2014 at 9:09am:


As a proud woman of color, I am offended by your assumption that everyone in this conversation is a guy.

NOTpopejubal wrote on Apr 25^th, 2014 at 9:11am:


It's your own fault. You didn't provide snacks.

OneUpGamer wrote on Apr 25^th, 2014 at 12:16pm:

GermanicusMaximus wrote on Apr 26^th, 2014 at 9:34pm:

Have you seen the statistics on that? Gated communities reduce crime--for about six months after the gates go up. Thereafter, crime goes back to its original prevalence. Only now you have this gate in the way of police, ambulances, fire trucks, pizza delivery....

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Most gay men don't promote the use of a hate word against homosexuals but kudos to you for being so progressive.