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Oct 3rd, 2014 at 9:19am
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Does everyon else think this spell is a huge waste? I was expecting it to blow up or something. Not go pew pew.

/rant off.

I think it is better to take a +10 to elec/fire instead.
  

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Re: Hell Ball
Reply #1 - Oct 3rd, 2014 at 9:26am
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It is a good spell in specific content against specific mobs that works better or worse depending on build.
As its aoe and bypasses evasion, it always deals damage, so it is one of better spells that you can use in horns for example.
It costs to much sp tho
  
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Re: Hell Ball
Reply #2 - Oct 3rd, 2014 at 9:30am
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3000 Year Old Necromancer wrote on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 9:19am:
this spell is a huge waste
/rant off.

it is better to take a +10 to elec/fire instead.

  

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Reply #3 - Oct 3rd, 2014 at 11:40am
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Heard that it can all proc Shiradi stuff.

Never tried it myself, but could be interesting if it really does.
  
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Reply #4 - Oct 3rd, 2014 at 3:13pm
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I think most people simply feel it isn't good for mostly psychological reasons.  You won't see big crit numbers because the damage is spread out over multiple elements.  Also, the animation is super lame.

However, the base damage is extremely high.  40d6 or 80d6 doublestrike is way higher than you can get on any other spell.  You can double proc the spell and as Lelouch said earlier it also bypasses evasion.
  
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Reply #5 - Oct 3rd, 2014 at 4:06pm
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On held targets (with sense weakness) my wizard's hellball does between 3000-4000 so it's good enough when energy burst if on timer.
  
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Reply #6 - Oct 4th, 2014 at 1:10am
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Hell ball is the best aoe shiradi spell, so no its not worthless.
  
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Reply #7 - Oct 4th, 2014 at 2:48pm
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There used to be a time in which I thought Hellball was just horrible considering it's spell point cost, but since the cards were released and spellpoints conservation is nothing but a joke, just go ahead and take it.
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Reply #8 - Oct 4th, 2014 at 10:24pm
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I just had to look at a thread that Sasha commented on and had balls in the title.

I was disappointed  Undecided
  
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Re: Hell Ball
Reply #9 - Oct 4th, 2014 at 11:49pm
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3000 Year Old Necromancer wrote on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 9:19am:
Does everyon else think this spell is a huge waste? I was expecting it to blow up or something. Not go pew pew.

/rant off.

I think it is better to take a +10 to elec/fire instead.

No, hellball is great. very low cooldown and imba damage and multiple procs if you are shiradi. Its a must have.
  
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Reply #10 - Oct 6th, 2014 at 3:22am
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doubleBs wrote on Oct 4th, 2014 at 1:10am:
Hell ball is the best aoe shiradi spell, so no its not worthless.


No it isn't.
This is a misconception that spreads easily since it's intuitive.

Hellball offers only a single proc chance or two if it double procs.
This has been tested and confirmed by more than one reliable source.
  
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Reply #11 - Oct 6th, 2014 at 3:23am
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Jon Van Caneghem wrote on Oct 4th, 2014 at 11:49pm:
No, hellball is great. very low cooldown and imba damage and multiple procs if you are shiradi. Its a must have.


Wrong about multiple procs, see post above.
  
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Reply #12 - Oct 6th, 2014 at 3:30am
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The spell varies between good to amazing depending on how high your casting stat is (whic determines if mobs take full or at least half damage - no evasion for this spell), how high you can get your fire, electric, sonic and acid spell power and crit chance.

My dc wiz, nuker fvs, cha based sorc, shiradi sorc and even my bard all use it. It's awesome.

  
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Reply #13 - Oct 6th, 2014 at 8:28am
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I tested hellball some more and you are right. It only gives one shradi proc but the thing is, and its also mentioned in the wiki, that the DC of that spell is much higher than it should be. Personaly i only have 40 charisma and am pretty sure i've never seen a mob save.. anyways, shradi or not this spell is the best aoe in the game and works much better than, lets say, meteor swarm..
  
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Re: Hell Ball
Reply #14 - Oct 6th, 2014 at 10:26pm
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Sasha wrote on Oct 4th, 2014 at 2:48pm:
There used to be a time in which I thought Hellball was just horrible considering it's spell point cost, but since the cards were released and spellpoints conservation is nothing but a joke, just go ahead and take it.


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Re: Hell Ball
Reply #15 - Oct 6th, 2014 at 11:32pm
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They should have called this spell Hellfugde

  
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