Looking for thoughts on a barb build for a toon that is currently a dual wielding khopesh pally.  I like dual wielding, but am open to THF too.  Key for me is being able to solo.  If barb is just too weak even after the pass, maybe I stick with pally.  Not unhappy with the toon, just bored and want to try something new.  I quit playing barb years ago because I spent most the time clicking buffs and such, but like the way it played for the most part.

Arkat wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 2:24pm:


depends on how you want to play and flavor/feel. drow str based with occult slayer cap still hits 90s SR but gets ravager/berserker tier 5. has around 600 less hps, but can max str and crit for 14k on helpless mobs.

Stick to Pally->Profit

Just finished tweaking my barb with the new healing amp changes and almost capped Divine Crusader because Consecration is the only "viable" method to heal unless you want your low saves even lower,you want to move like a snail,you drop rage every 10 seconds etc.

With the healing clickies i count 14 active skills you need to spam at all times (with ofc pauses of dps to activate them all) to deal half the damage the big boys deal atm (Palladins,Bards,HarpeRogues etc) have half the saves and zero PRR.

Too much effort going to waste.

Yes you can kinda pull your own weight now in EEs with just DPS scenarios but still i would take a bard or palladin even subgeared in a byoh group.

Sad fact drunk my first Major Mnem on my barb because i was OOM after 3 consecrations...Slotted Sp the next run and Devotion on my TF..

Rubbinns wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 3:30pm:


Yeah... not liking the AP investment on that though... but it is what it is....

QuantumFX wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 8:04pm:

I so want to play something really stupid, like twf drow chick barb.
I am good enough to overcome twitch skills challenges, or gearing, or even SF chugging now, but interested to hear how would you get SR without con level ups.
Shitty saves have always been a deal breaker for me, dunno.

What's the heal amp on non human non pally lives barbie now anyway ?

Wipe wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 9:37pm:

120 in cores. 60 item, 40 item.

Rubbinns wrote on Dec 13^th, 2014 at 1:24am:


Ah!  THF.  I thought it was going to be a TWF.   

(Edit:  Note, I haven’t even logged into DDO in over a year.  I was hoping that Turbine did something to make TWF not suck on a non-rogue.)

QuantumFX wrote on Dec 13^th, 2014 at 2:13am:

Wolves. With a single weapon and ranger levels. Get both. It is good.

Rubbinns wrote on Dec 13^th, 2014 at 2:56am:


I was looking at this for a specific character with a bunch of awesome rapiers.  I guess SWF Swashbuckling is where it’s at. 

if you want to see it in game... my wife has a capped pure barb, dwarf con build. The ap to get throw your weight around is hefty, but if you are serious abbout soloing EE, she does, you need the HP, you need cocoon, and you need to fucking forget about rage. unraged standing with the updates she hits 1800hp with buffs over 2000 unraged. the damage is not the best of the best, but it is fucking solid at 400-500 with the 2000-3000 crits.

the occult slayer, i think that is the one with the SR as the 5th tier, yeah look at that shit and ask yourself to I fucking want Spell Resistance 60-80?

You know those OMG crowned caster, yeah she just fucking ignores those they will cast on her, get knocked down because of the ability in the tree that is you cast on me you trip, and yeah it says on damage bug when she gets the SR shield and they fall over sure looks like on hit with any spell to me. anyay

TL/DR

Dwarf: yes
Con build: Yes
Occult slayer: yes
LD: Yes
Go where you want when you want in any dungeon: Yes