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Pure Barb Suggestion
Dec 12th, 2014 at 12:02pm
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Looking for thoughts on a barb build for a toon that is currently a dual wielding khopesh pally.  I like dual wielding, but am open to THF too.  Key for me is being able to solo.  If barb is just too weak even after the pass, maybe I stick with pally.  Not unhappy with the toon, just bored and want to try something new.  I quit playing barb years ago because I spent most the time clicking buffs and such, but like the way it played for the most part.
  
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Re: Pure Barb Suggestion
Reply #1 - Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:24pm
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I like the idea of an immune to magic Barb. Prolly will never make one though.

If you do make one, make sure it's a Dwarf.

Axer loved Dwarf Barbs btw.  Tongue
  

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Reply #2 - Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:48pm
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Arkat wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:24pm:
I like the idea of an immune to magic Barb. Prolly will never make one though.

If you do make one, make sure it's a Dwarf.

Axer loved Dwarf Barbs btw.  Tongue


depends on how you want to play and flavor/feel. drow str based with occult slayer cap still hits 90s SR but gets ravager/berserker tier 5. has around 600 less hps, but can max str and crit for 14k on helpless mobs.
  

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Reply #3 - Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:56pm
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I am thinking Occult Slayer Tier 5 with FB Tier 4.  I figure to run dwarf and go dual wielding D-axes.  I will twist in the DC stuff I need but run in LD for the Axe bonus.  Str build.  The toon I am thinking to TR has pretty much everything I need from the necro except Abbot necklace.  If I can get a group that is willing to run a bunch of those one night, maybe I'll pick that up too.

I am more concerned with not dying than dps.  I mean, I need to be able to kill things, but rather not die.  FB can give me some dps but OS is where I am hoping to avoid damage.

Of course, heavy shadow armor and TF D-Axes.

Seem reasonable?
  
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Reply #4 - Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:57pm
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Stick to Pally->Profit

Just finished tweaking my barb with the new healing amp changes and almost capped Divine Crusader because Consecration is the only "viable" method to heal unless you want your low saves even lower,you want to move like a snail,you drop rage every 10 seconds etc.

With the healing clickies i count 14 active skills you need to spam at all times (with ofc pauses of dps to activate them all) to deal half the damage the big boys deal atm (Palladins,Bards,HarpeRogues etc) have half the saves and zero PRR.

Too much effort going to waste.

Yes you can kinda pull your own weight now in EEs with just DPS scenarios but still i would take a bard or palladin even subgeared in a byoh group.

Sad fact drunk my first Major Mnem on my barb because i was OOM after 3 consecrations...Slotted Sp the next run and Devotion on my TF..
  

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Reply #5 - Dec 12th, 2014 at 3:30pm
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Kluege wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:56pm:
Str build.

cant get sr to 90s on dwarf unless con based.
  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #6 - Dec 12th, 2014 at 3:34pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 3:30pm:
cant get sr to 90s on dwarf unless con based.


Yeah... not liking the AP investment on that though... but it is what it is....
  
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Reply #7 - Dec 12th, 2014 at 8:04pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 2:48pm:
depends on how you want to play and flavor/feel. drow str based with occult slayer cap still hits 90s SR but gets ravager/berserker tier 5. has around 600 less hps, but can max str and crit for 14k on helpless mobs.


Sounds interesting.  What would this drow look like on paper?
  

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Reply #8 - Dec 12th, 2014 at 9:37pm
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QuantumFX wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 8:04pm:
Sounds interesting.  What would this drow look like on paper?

I so want to play something really stupid, like twf drow chick barb.
I am good enough to overcome twitch skills challenges, or gearing, or even SF chugging now, but interested to hear how would you get SR without con level ups.
Shitty saves have always been a deal breaker for me, dunno.

What's the heal amp on non human non pally lives barbie now anyway ?
  
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Reply #9 - Dec 13th, 2014 at 1:24am
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QuantumFX wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 8:04pm:
Sounds interesting.  What would this drow look like on paper?

straight forward. max str, max con. dump other stats. you could put the rest of the stats into int for kta.

33 in berserker tree for frenzy, death frenzy and focused wrath. 41 in slayer for core capstone. 6 in harper for kta.

gthf, both cleaves, PA, oc, heavy armor.


Wipe wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 9:37pm:
but interested to hear how would you get SR without con level ups.
Shitty saves have always been a deal breaker for me, dunno.

combine mind over magic with racial SR. twist in 9 from fury and voila. con will hit 50s when raged. str 70s. can max str to boost it up to 100 for short bursts..
  

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Reply #10 - Dec 13th, 2014 at 1:27am
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Wipe wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 9:37pm:
What's the heal amp on non human non pally lives barbie now anyway ?

120 in cores. 60 item, 40 item.
  

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Reply #11 - Dec 13th, 2014 at 2:11am
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Thanks, didn't know that drow sr would stack.
That amp is really solid.

Rolled an iconic to play with some specials, looks like there is no advantage for twf, I really hoped weapon bond "rate" would be faster with twf and special attacks would have off hand proc.
Fuck that.
  
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Reply #12 - Dec 13th, 2014 at 2:13am
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Rubbinns wrote on Dec 13th, 2014 at 1:24am:
straight forward. max str, max con. dump other stats. you could put the rest of the stats into int for kta.

33 in berserker tree for frenzy, death frenzy and focused wrath. 41 in slayer for core capstone. 6 in harper for kta.

gthf, both cleaves, PA, oc, heavy armor.


Ah!  THF.  I thought it was going to be a TWF.   Cry

(Edit:  Note, I haven’t even logged into DDO in over a year.  I was hoping that Turbine did something to make TWF not suck on a non-rogue.)
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Reply #13 - Dec 13th, 2014 at 2:23am
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QuantumFX wrote on Dec 13th, 2014 at 2:13am:
Ah!  THF.  I thought it was going to be a TWF.   Cry

Same, even had a quick look with an iconic.
Hope someone more experienced with barbies atm can answer if there is any advantage for twf.
  
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QuantumFX wrote on Dec 13th, 2014 at 2:13am:
(Edit:  Note, I haven’t even logged into DDO in over a year.  I was hoping that Turbine did something to make TWF not suck on a non-rogue.)

Wolves. With a single weapon and ranger levels. Get both. It is good.
  

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Reply #15 - Dec 13th, 2014 at 3:23am
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Rubbinns wrote on Dec 13th, 2014 at 2:56am:
Wolves. With a single weapon and ranger levels. Get both. It is good.


Good is an understatement.
  

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Reply #16 - Dec 13th, 2014 at 3:49am
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Rubbinns wrote on Dec 13th, 2014 at 2:56am:
Wolves. With a single weapon and ranger levels. Get both. It is good.


I was looking at this for a specific character with a bunch of awesome rapiers.  I guess SWF Swashbuckling is where it’s at.  Grin
  

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Reply #17 - Dec 13th, 2014 at 8:03am
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Munkenmo wrote on Dec 13th, 2014 at 3:23am:
Good is an understatement.


Funny fact.

They said they will "fix it" after fsoul 3rd free and artie 3rd tree.

So my guess i that swf wolfies will be around for at least half a year or more.
  
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Reply #18 - Dec 13th, 2014 at 1:16pm
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if you want to see it in game... my wife has a capped pure barb, dwarf con build. The ap to get throw your weight around is hefty, but if you are serious abbout soloing EE, she does, you need the HP, you need cocoon, and you need to fucking forget about rage. unraged standing with the updates she hits 1800hp with buffs over 2000 unraged. the damage is not the best of the best, but it is fucking solid at 400-500 with the 2000-3000 crits.

the occult slayer, i think that is the one with the SR as the 5th tier, yeah look at that shit and ask yourself to I fucking want Spell Resistance 60-80?

You know those OMG crowned caster, yeah she just fucking ignores those they will cast on her, get knocked down because of the ability in the tree that is you cast on me you trip, and yeah it says on damage bug when she gets the SR shield and they fall over sure looks like on hit with any spell to me. anyay

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Occult slayer: yes
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Reply #19 - Dec 13th, 2014 at 1:22pm
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