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Re: Best DPS right now
Reply #100 - Jan 6th, 2015 at 11:44am
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ElGuapo wrote on Jan 6th, 2015 at 10:48am:
Past few?

monks were gods of DDO when they first came out.

every update SINCE has been a small step back for monk kind.   lol


Honestly i remember them in old epics when they kinda came out.
They were freaking terible, even fully geared with claw and ravens set they were freaking horrible due to no wraps, then with tod sets n such they were freaking terrible since it took years to get rings you need.
They became ok with alchemical wraps and they had their shiney moments when qpalm worked.
But now, a wraps monk, purely monk wraps intended to play as stunlocker is horribteribad compared to almost everything else you can build.

I mean its not bad, its ok with mortal fear n such.
But issue is there are so many builds out there that are so much better.
ANd the recent buff to harmor totally made evasion dodge more or less worthless.
But as said, tree builds are super amazing and got monk icon lol, if you can call that a monk (i dont consider trees and monkchers monks, but pure fisters or staff users which are all quite bad currently)
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Reply #101 - Jan 6th, 2015 at 12:09pm
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Viktor Vaughn wrote on Jan 6th, 2015 at 10:37am:
people who havent logged in game for 2 years, but know who is doing more dps.

Lol at you if you think I am serious.
  
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Reply #102 - Jan 6th, 2015 at 12:14pm
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Hey, thats my job !
  
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Reply #103 - Jan 6th, 2015 at 12:14pm
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Reply #104 - Jan 6th, 2015 at 12:17pm
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ElGuapo wrote on Jan 6th, 2015 at 10:48am:
monks were gods of DDO when they first came out.


Monks (other than the 2 level splash) were ridiculously gimped when they first came out.  They didn’t even become viable until Turbine made TWF work with unarmed combat.
  

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Reply #105 - Jan 6th, 2015 at 1:16pm
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Viktor Vaughn wrote on Jan 6th, 2015 at 10:37am:
Im saying monkcher has better dps than paladin and bards.
I played all 3 on same char with all the gear, people arguing me are people who havent logged in game for 2 years, but know who is doing more dps.
Its one of the best.


I'm assuming you are referring to a monkcher in Fury destiny?
  
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Reply #106 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 6:11am
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DoRayEgon wrote on Jan 6th, 2015 at 1:16pm:
I'm assuming you are referring to a monkcher in Fury destiny?

Fury, and ld.

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Reply #107 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 7:27am
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Viktor Vaughn wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 6:11am:
Fury, and ld.


That is why I know you have no clue, you cant be taken serious.

I am serious only in bed.
  
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Reply #108 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 7:34am
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Viktor Vaughn wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 6:07am:
And it has diminishing returns when you hit 42 wis, right?
YOu can hit that with wis being your second stat, but some people put everything in wis, nothing in str.


Don't get Axer on me but here goes:
38 wis yields 1.8784 arrows per shot
42 wis yields 2.0005 arrows per shot
46 wis yields 2.1341 arrows per shot
70 wis yields 2.805 arrows per shot
Delta between 38 and 42 is 0.1221
Delta between 42 and 46 is 0.1336
Delta between 46 and 70 is 0.6464

So as you can see your returns actually increase around 42 wis.
At much much higher values your returns are diminished (not possible to get there as a secondary stat and very buff intensive as a main stat).

Regardless of the cutoff point where returns are diminished (not near 42) that is not the point rather as that the returns from wis still out weigh returns from your damage stat.
Keep in mind that more arrows shot are more adrenaline generated as well.

Monkchers are solid and are great at certain quests/raids - Yes.
Monkchers are top dps - No.
  
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Reply #109 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 7:39am
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SayWhatAgain wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 7:34am:
Don't get Axer on me but here goes:
38 wis yields 1.8784 arrows per shot
42 wis yields 2.0005 arrows per shot
46 wis yields 2.1341 arrows per shot
70 wis yields 2.805 arrows per shot
Delta between 38 and 42 is 0.1221
Delta between 42 and 46 is 0.1336
Delta between 46 and 70 is 0.6464

So as you can see your returns actually increase around 42 wis.
At much much higher values your returns are diminished (not possible to get there as a secondary stat and very buff intensive as a main stat).

Regardless of the cutoff point where returns are diminished (not near 42) that is not the point rather as that the returns from wis still out weigh returns from your damage stat.
Keep in mind that more arrows shot are more adrenaline generated as well.

Monkchers are solid and are great at certain quests/raids - Yes.
Monkchers are top dps - No.


LOGIC AND NUMBERS BEGONE, WE DONT NEED YOU!!!!
I banish you offspring of pure evil, i banish you to the pits of darkness to never come back again.
Never again bring logic and numbers to dps calculation threads again!!!

O wait a moment  Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #110 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 8:00am
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Lelouch wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 7:39am:
LOGIC AND NUMBERS BEGONE, WE DONT NEED YOU!!!!
I banish you offspring of pure evil, i banish you to the pits of darkness to never come back again.
Never again bring logic and numbers to dps calculation threads again!!!

O wait a moment  Cheesy Cheesy

You are gay and retarded.
  
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Reply #111 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 8:02am
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SayWhatAgain wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 7:34am:
Don't get Axer on me but here goes:
38 wis yields 1.8784 arrows per shot
42 wis yields 2.0005 arrows per shot
46 wis yields 2.1341 arrows per shot
70 wis yields 2.805 arrows per shot
Delta between 38 and 42 is 0.1221
Delta between 42 and 46 is 0.1336
Delta between 46 and 70 is 0.6464

So as you can see your returns actually increase around 42 wis.
At much much higher values your returns are diminished (not possible to get there as a secondary stat and very buff intensive as a main stat).

Regardless of the cutoff point where returns are diminished (not near 42) that is not the point rather as that the returns from wis still out weigh returns from your damage stat.
Keep in mind that more arrows shot are more adrenaline generated as well.

Monkchers are solid and are great at certain quests/raids - Yes.
Monkchers are top dps - No.

Do not worry son, i will show you some axer math beforehand.
  
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Reply #112 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 8:05am
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SayWhatAgain wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 7:34am:
Don't get Axer on me but here goes:
38 wis yields 1.8784 arrows per shot
42 wis yields 2.0005 arrows per shot
46 wis yields 2.1341 arrows per shot
70 wis yields 2.805 arrows per shot
Delta between 38 and 42 is 0.1221
Delta between 42 and 46 is 0.1336
Delta between 46 and 70 is 0.6464

So as you can see your returns actually increase around 42 wis.
At much much higher values your returns are diminished (not possible to get there as a secondary stat and very buff intensive as a main stat).

Regardless of the cutoff point where returns are diminished (not near 42) that is not the point rather as that the returns from wis still out weigh returns from your damage stat.
Keep in mind that more arrows shot are more adrenaline generated as well.

Monkchers are solid and are great at certain quests/raids - Yes.
Monkchers are top dps - No.

Monkchers are solid.  Grin
  
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Reply #113 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 8:07am
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Viktor Vaughn wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 8:05am:
Monkchers are solid.  Grin

Not so much.
  
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Reply #114 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 9:00am
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Ty for the compliment dear sire


You forgot the important part tho.
To call me a sadist twincest anime addict who has a small hitler shrine in a corner of his room and likes to smell and tell in guild chat the intensity of his farts
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Reply #115 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 9:47am
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When did dps become "sustained damage output per second" over a whole quest? Over a 20 second period nothing matches furyshot, not even trees.

All of the top builds do so much fucking damage now, whilst having great survivability, who gives a flying fuck which is best overall. They all have their own niche.
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Reply #116 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 10:06am
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I've always been curious what the difference is between a ranged build and a melee build, when the ranged build is pounding away on a target before the melee gets there but the melee does more damage once he does get to the target. 

Could never come up with a way to test or quantify it though.
  
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Reply #117 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 10:19am
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Munkenmo wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 9:47am:
When did dps become "sustained damage output per second" over a whole quest? Over a 20 second period nothing matches furyshot, not even trees.

All of the top builds do so much fucking damage now, whilst having great survivability, who gives a flying fuck which is best overall. They all have their own niche.


Shade would disagree. We are all support roles - he is the only dps.
  

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Reply #118 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 1:49pm
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DoRayEgon wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 10:06am:
I've always been curious what the difference is between a ranged build and a melee build, when the ranged build is pounding away on a target before the melee gets there but the melee does more damage once he catches up to the target the ranger is kiting


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Reply #119 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 1:55pm
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eighnuss wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 1:49pm:
yep


unless you're in manyshot
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Reply #120 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 2:11am
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Munkenmo wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 9:47am:
When did dps become "sustained damage output per second" over a whole quest? Over a 20 second period nothing matches furyshot, not even trees.

All of the top builds do so much fucking damage now, whilst having great survivability, who gives a flying fuck which is best overall. They all have their own niche.


This.
There is no absolute best only situationally best although, some builds shine in more situations than others.
This shows as the ideal group for the large majority of quests/raids consists of several different builds.
FoT with 12 monkchers is an exception of the rule .
  
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Reply #121 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 3:46am
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NOTSunnyshadow wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 10:19am:
Shade would disagree. We are all support roles - he is the only dps.


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Reply #122 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 5:08am
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Viktor Vaughn wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 6:11am:
That is why I know you have no clue, you cant be taken serious.

Show me 8 minutes completion of EE Breaking the ranks on a monkcher. You cant? You are just a trash talker, pretending you know something that others dont. You cant even roll 'average' paladin/barb/wolf. That is how much you suck.

Is anyone playing with this tard on the same server? I would love to hear your experiences with his uber monkcher.
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Reply #123 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 5:29am
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Show me 8 minutes completion of EE Breaking the ranks on a monkcher. You cant? You are just a trash talker, pretending you know something that others dont. You cant even roll 'average' paladin/barb/wolf. That is how much you suck.

Is anyone playing with this tard on the same server? I would love to hear your experiences with his uber monkcher.

Show me EE Fall of truth solo completion on a melee, i dare ya.
  
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Reply #124 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 5:41am
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Show me EE Fall of truth solo completion on a melee, i dare ya.

That is not about the dps, sweetheart.

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Monkcher definitely fell behind. Good for raiding, not so much for questing.

Also, Hi Welcome
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