Having this strange idea, friend might try out in game,
18 barb 2 rogue harmor staff user.

I kinda think it would be funny and actually not bad.

Any ideas?
Basic idea was, qastrike acrobatics ravager selfheal coupled with dfrenzy.
Since i dont have ap for cap nor pure build the ap needed for qstrike should be there.
Feats meh, basic stuff 2 handed line harmor proficiency etc.

Just need to check if its humanly possible to get kta as well.

Should prove to be a good selfheal builds overall due to staff at speed and more dstrike then regular 2handed barbs.
I know it falls off at 28 due to lack of proper staffs n such.
But i think idea might be worth to try out.

The fact that its a barb with rogue levels without evasion swinging a staff is hillarious

/its just a idea, will say how it works in game after friends says his feedback as im not playing ddo at all

For some reason I'm thinking Q-Staves don't do glancing blow damage. Not sure though.

I also thought there was an issue where q-staves do not get glancing blows.

rest wrote on Jan 4^th, 2015 at 3:26pm:


There was an issue, it was fixed.

5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 4^th, 2015 at 10:54pm:



That opens up more ideas then.
Can skip on 18 barb levels, would still keep 15-16 for good proc, but can go 15 barb 3 fighter 2 rogue, skip on whole berserker stuff, get stance get kta.

There are many options now that i think about for a heavy survival selfheal cleaving speed machine.

Wouldnt try to think of a druid build, for druids im entirely sold on ranger splash due to dod synergy which kills any t5s

Lelouch wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 1:40am:



DUDEEE YOU ARE SO FUCKING DUMB.
DRUID IS ACTUALLY GOOD, jesus when i need to talk with idiots.
Tsk tsk tsk.

/funny when you have to argue with yourself.

Had a bazinga moment today while vacuuming house.
First, yes i forgot that you cant be raged while stanced, so fighter falls off.
Im not sure tho if you can use rage then turn on stance and keep rage.
Never played a stanced barb, so dont know if it works same as primal /stance combo.
Loss of tireless rage hurts tho, but meh that with the other benefits
Druid on the other side has magnificent synergy.
Basicallly 15 barb 3 druid 2 rogue.
Drop most stuff from berserker, go for ravager, fatal harrier, get sp, get rams, possible to get kta.
Selfhealing speed build with pretty good dcs on stuning blow.
Til sireth shilly will work wonders on evening staff, easy to get, from 23-28 use sireth, then etr, also with that att speed and heal on hit with aoe damage, it should be good dps overall.
Look at loss from fatal death frenzy like this.
Dfrenzy vs 15% att speed with staffs and most of the content sustained fatal harrier for 25% base at speed.

I think that might be a good build, so basically 15 barb 3 druid 2 rogue.
Seems heavy ap intensive, but with droping of dfrenzy possible to get mos stuff, keep in mind you only need 2 ranks in fatal for full benefit

No aligment issues, survivable heavy focus on selfhealing as barb with massive aoe and if focus on kta, also possible to get traping for xp bonus
Thoughts?
Of course basic 2 handed feats, st blow, cleaves etc, feats dont matter since close to all builds use same feat setup when it comes to 2 handed

/personal question, why does every single melle build that i make become viable when i splash druid to it.. Sigh


Another thing to keep in mind is that personally im leaning toward speed builds, after playing a druid for months it totally won me over, and i got 3x on over mainly with speed builds or heavy arcane builds, of course i did the ocasinal thrower/2hander palie/whatnot build but they never left a impression on me.
Example i saw zodas ranks run, and i checkd my pscreens on old hard drive and saw a screenie in a wolf build when i tested how it is in breaking and saw i beat his time by half a minute before necro gear came out without tryharding.
So while big numbers are impressive, on the long run speed builds with blitz pull ahead dps wise from my onw personal experience.
Sad thing is that i never managed to make a monk wraps build that i was satisfied with after motu came out.
Qpalm era was fun tho.

5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 4:42am:


Yes i proposed that build also a while ago on multiple stick threads to people who still think rogue monk is defacto.
Rogue is, monk not so much due to power of harmor, tho i do like dance.
Fatal harrier has a hm lets say higher bonus then haste as it stacks and outperforms reguluar haste which is capped at
15% while fatal goes up to 25% at speed.
Most stuff does not reguire to be in animal form whatsover, to be precise you can pick til fatal harier stuff that will only benefit you.
Dstrike cheap aboost, hide of crocy, venge hunter etc.
Its a actually really good tree til t3 which is why only 3 druid levels.
Shilly works perfectly fine, being with the simple issue that it only works on wood typed staffs, which is useless for sireth and thforged.
Not sure what type new staff from new pack is tho.
Also this is a twist on barb to make it better survival and speed proc wise.
For example you will notice mortal fear quite offten on builds like this
I dont either think it would fall behind regular barbs either due to benefits of splash and the share ammount of fun staff builds offer.
I got for example 2 esos-es on main and shards seals for 1-2 more if i manage to pull base sword again, but i never had fun with that playstyle since it feels to slow for me, so even tho i have that super rare piece of garage for brag rights i didnt even use it since i always preferd to spend couple coms and get me a staff from evening

And last 2 ideas that include dfrenzy kta but no qstrike would be 18 barb 1 druid 1 rogue and 18 barb 1 rogue 1 cleric.
Cleric would focus on dmight while druid on kta.

Druid version is definitely better.

What does it have?
Kta, staff 15% att speed with staffs, t5 ravager, dfrenzy, damage boost, shilleagh, more sp then regular barbs and rams.

What does cleric version have?
Dmight, harmor profic so basically a free feat, since char based more umd /not like it is any issue whatsover

This is purely for a staff barb for people who want to mess with it.
Should be highly effective and nice for a shadar kai past life

Selee wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 12:55pm:

tested this on lama with swf 15 pal 3 mnk 2 rge. Attack speed seemed faster than just sireth, but damage was puny. Although would be a great exploit build if levels capped in heroic.

Lelouch wrote on Jan 6^th, 2015 at 4:04am:

You could do it again also.