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Fighter/palidin stance stacking
Feb 24th, 2015 at 10:19am
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according to the wiki many of the bonuses in the stalwart and sacred defender stack (many not all) but my question is, can i have sacred defender and stalwart defender stance active at the same time? if I can i can see a 16 pallie 4 fighter being really interesting to try out. If they stack you would be getting +12 strength +12 const +40% health. Thats more than a barbar rage at 20 and you get it all the time! Seems highly op so makes me skeptical that they would allow you to have both, but thought i would ask anyway.
Not having the capstone would suck but IF they stack ( and that is a big if) it seems that the insane stats the combination of the two would be providing would make it more than worth while.

on a side note: how does the fighter capstone actually work? there is no listed duration on the wiki. Is it 20sec like the most other action boosts and how many do you get per day?
  
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Re: Fighter/palidin stance stacking
Reply #1 - Feb 24th, 2015 at 10:35am
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Odin212 wrote on Feb 24th, 2015 at 10:19am:
can i have sacred defender and stalwart defender stance active at the same time?


no.
  

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Reply #2 - Feb 24th, 2015 at 10:44am
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All those shield and ac bonuses stack tho for some ridiculous ac numbers. Rather expensive.
  
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Reply #3 - Feb 24th, 2015 at 12:23pm
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Dou you really need more than 140 ac?
  
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Re: Fighter/palidin stance stacking
Reply #4 - Feb 24th, 2015 at 12:30pm
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Viktor Vaughn wrote on Feb 24th, 2015 at 12:23pm:
Dou you really need more than 140 ac?


yes.. yes you do
  
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Reply #5 - Feb 24th, 2015 at 1:13pm
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well there goes that idea.. anyone know what the actual mechanic for the Fighter stallwart capstone is? there is no listed duration or number of uses
  
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Reply #6 - Feb 24th, 2015 at 10:46pm
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Odin212 wrote on Feb 24th, 2015 at 1:13pm:
well there goes that idea.. anyone know what the actual mechanic for the Fighter stallwart capstone is? there is no listed duration or number of uses


20 or 30 seconds, IIRC. 5 per day base.

It's pretty much pointless though...unless you use it at the same time as Undying Vanguard for a screenshot.

It gives you a shitload of Max HP, but no actual HP...so all it does is turn half of your red bar black for a few seconds.
  

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Reply #7 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 8:48pm
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Viktor Vaughn wrote on Feb 24th, 2015 at 12:23pm:
Dou you really need more than 140 ac?


Are you really asking that question?
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 2nd, 2015 at 3:03pm
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Well that's really unfortunate. The more i play this game the more it seems that fighter really has no purpose other than to multiclass. Pally seems better in almost every way. I kind of wanted a fighter life that could use the vanguard tree, and was not the druid, ranger mulit i keep seeing. Pure fighter seems like is not viable at all, especially because it would have no way to sustain.
  
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Reply #9 - Mar 2nd, 2015 at 11:10pm
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Odin212 wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 3:03pm:
Pure fighter seems like is not viable at all, especially because it would have no way to sustain.

You missed the many many years before Turbine addressed the total suck of bards, barbarians, and paladins. They don't know how to improve one class without invalidating one or more others. So clerics and fighters took it in the shorts.

Monks, too, but they're used to it  Wink
  

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Reply #10 - Mar 2nd, 2015 at 11:32pm
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Revaulting wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 11:10pm:
You missed the many many years before Turbine addressed the total suck of bards, barbarians, and paladins. They don't know how to improve one class without invalidating one or more others. So clerics and fighters took it in the shorts.

Monks, too, but they're used to it  Wink


eh, both cleric and fvs are kind of bad these days, the only reason nobody complains about fvs is that its pretty much required to make a shiaradi caster.

I don't think monk is that bad, it didn't get nerfed, other classes just got better, I would say that I maybe needs something more interesting to define itself, as it *was* the survivable melee.

pure fighter. . .I think that's always been trash, it had a brief moment when being centered with ESOS's was cool, but that still was not pure class. so yeah, always just a splash, don't really see that changing.
  
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Reply #11 - Mar 3rd, 2015 at 12:38am
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Lehane wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 11:32pm:
I don't think monk is that bad, it didn't get nerfed


(I'll ignore the rise and fall of QP). Cleric and FVS haven't been nerfed either. 

None of the low base damage classes that relied on procs (or spells) to whittle down enemies have fared particularly well with critical profile increases and mob HP inflation.

Armor up is as bad as proxy nerfs get though.  Survivability is at an all time low in pajamas.  Atleast Clerics & FVS can wear Heavy & Medium.
  

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Re: Fighter/palidin stance stacking
Reply #12 - Mar 3rd, 2015 at 5:54am
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We need to make some monk build in harmor!
I wonder if anything works while uncentered tho.
Not sure if anything...
Does shuri thing from spy work while uncenterd?
Some kind harmor thrower thing
  
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Re: Fighter/palidin stance stacking
Reply #13 - Mar 3rd, 2015 at 7:51am
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Lelouch wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 5:54am:
Does shuri thing from spy work while uncenterd?
Some kind harmor thrower thing


Read the wiki.

Edit. Some fucker has removed my noted on core 2 working whilst uncentered.
« Last Edit: Mar 3rd, 2015 at 7:52am by Munkenmo »  

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