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Swash Van Warlock (Past Life Build)
Jun 7th, 2015 at 1:35am
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Barring a massive redesign overhaul, I'm assuming at this point that a endgame viable or even interesting Warlock build is a dead end, so my objective is to dash through these lives as quickly and painlessly as possible and TR back to a real class.

5FS's Swash Van Warlock (v1.1)

Race: Drow
Alignment: Neutral
Class: 8 Warlock/6 Bard/6 Fighter
(BF BF BF BF BF BF WW WW WW WW)


Stats:..........(36 pt build)

Strength............8 
Dexterity...........10 (+3 tome or better required)
Constitution.......12
Intelligence........18
Wisdom..............8
Charisma............20 (+ level ups)


Feat Progression

Level 1   : Single Weapon Fighting
Level 2   : Weapon Focus-Piercing
Level 3   : Empower Healing
Level 4   : Improved Shield Bash
Level 6   : Shield Mastery
Level 8   : Improved Single Weapon Fighting
Level 9   : Improved Critical-Piercing
Level 12 : Greater Shield Mastery, Precision
Level 15 : Greater Single Weapon Fighting
Level 18 : Quicken Spell




Enhancements

Swashbuckler: 35 AP

Stalwart:  14 AP

Vanguard: 11+ AP

Racial: 7+ AP

Harper: 6 AP

Enlightened Spirit: 1 AP?




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Re: Swash Van Warlock (Past Life Build)
Reply #1 - Jun 7th, 2015 at 2:30am
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7warlock/7 bard is a bard past life.
  

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Re: Swash Van Warlock (Past Life Build)
Reply #2 - Jun 7th, 2015 at 3:43am
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Munkenmo wrote on Jun 7th, 2015 at 2:30am:
7warlock/7 bard is a bard past life.


Whoops. Fixing.
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Reply #3 - Jun 7th, 2015 at 4:40am
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why cha-based? I don't see any reason to pump cha.
how you gonna heal it? empowered CL6 CMW?
mitigation? gains access to displacement from Warlock at lvl 19. kinda late for a heroic build
no cleaves?
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Re: Swash Van Warlock (Past Life Build)
Reply #4 - Jun 7th, 2015 at 4:58am
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crunch wrote on Jun 7th, 2015 at 4:40am:
why cha-based? I don't see any reason to pump cha.


Cha to damage in swash, Cha boosts DCs for shield stun and low blow, and governs spellcasting for bard and warlock. (Also boosts Frozen Fury if I find a way to fit it in.)

crunch wrote on Jun 7th, 2015 at 4:40am:
how you gonna heal it? empowered CL6 CMW?


Yes. And pots, heal scrolls, spider web cookiees, soveriegn elixirs, etc.

crunch wrote on Jun 7th, 2015 at 4:40am:
mitigation? gains access to displacement from Warlock at lvl 19. kinda late for a heroic build


It has decent PRR/MRR from defender. My original plan had haste and displacement from Bard level 7, but failed to get a Warlock past life. Now I'm thinking about dropping the stalwart/vanguard shield goodies so that I can take Bard 7 again.

crunch wrote on Jun 7th, 2015 at 4:40am:
no cleaves?


Meh. I'm not gonna do the quests that spawn a thousand mobs at once on the way to 20.
  

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Re: Swash Van Warlock (Past Life Build)
Reply #5 - Jun 7th, 2015 at 6:34am
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5FS's Swash Van Warlock (v2.0)

Race: Drow
Alignment: Neutral
Class: 9 Warlock/8 Bard/3 Fighter
(BB BB BB BB FF FW WW WW WW WW)


Stats:..........(36 pt build)

Strength............8 
Dexterity...........10 (+3 tome or better required)
Constitution.......12
Intelligence........18
Wisdom..............8
Charisma............20 (+ level ups)


Feat Progression

Level 1   : Single Weapon Fighting
Level 3   : Shield Mastery
Level 6   : Improved Shield Bash
Level 9   : Improved Single Weapon Fighting, Maximize Spell
Level 10 : Improved Critical-Piercing
Level 12 : Improved Shield Mastery
Level 15 : Greater Single Weapon Fighting
Level 18 : Precision




Enhancements

Swashbuckler: 35 AP

Warchanter: 13 AP

Stalwart:  9 AP

Vanguard: 9 AP

Racial: 7 AP

Harper: 6 AP

Enlightened Spirit: 1 AP?




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Re: Swash Van Warlock (Past Life Build)
Reply #6 - Jun 7th, 2015 at 6:36am
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I'm not sure if I'm going to get enough out of the shield tradeoff here. I could always go empty offhand and trade those feats for metas though. Maybe rogue instead of fighter for evasion.
  

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Re: Swash Van Warlock (Past Life Build)
Reply #7 - Jun 7th, 2015 at 11:55am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 7th, 2015 at 6:36am:
I'm not sure if I'm going to get enough out of the shield tradeoff here. I could always go empty offhand and trade those feats for metas though. Maybe rogue instead of fighter for evasion.

I agree, you could get more from cleaves than shield bash and mastery lines. And shield feats dont really matter in heroic for swashbucklers. Cleave with guardbreaking would add more over those feats. Otherwise get frozen fury, since youre charisma based and you wont need cleaves then.

Evasion still beats light armor and no evasion in heroic quests. MRR from shield feats and stalwart stance would be decent however. Dropping fighter levels gets you much less hp and you need 4 levels of rogue to make up the saves hit from stalwart's +3. If you get reflex to 45-50, you can go evade at 95% in etk end fight(with a full party). Only things that still hit would be monastery traps which can go as high as 60~ dc.
  

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Re: Swash Van Warlock (Past Life Build)
Reply #8 - Jun 7th, 2015 at 1:32pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 7th, 2015 at 6:36am:
I'm not sure if I'm going to get enough out of the shield tradeoff here. I could always go empty offhand and trade those feats for metas though. Maybe rogue instead of fighter for evasion.


one of the unnice things about shields and swash is that shields don't benefit from Different Tack. So you're stuck with 8 str to shield damage :/ Harper Int-to-damage on the other hand applies to shields.

I am not sure if I'm buying Warlock immediately.. But if I do, I was thinking about a stalwart swashbuckler with minimum investment in bard/fighter, going instead heavy into warlock / enlightened spirit. T5 swashbuckler is probably more DPS, but I will want to try out the warlocky stuff as well.

3d6 light damage per hit is similar to swash's 6d6 sonic on crit. CMW SLA, Displace SLA, Positive Energy Burst. Permanent shield and fear immunity (if they fix it..) MRR, PRR. Some weak aura ticking every 3 seconds, which may or may not be useful. Maybe picking up those eldritch burst cleaves.

3/3/12 as basic split, with 2 levels TBD (perhaps fighter for feat and warlock of lvl5 spell)
  
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Reply #9 - Jun 7th, 2015 at 3:46pm
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I think casterlocks will do just fine. Check out the build slarden posted on the forums.  With 71 mass hold DC, 71 evocation and 441 light spellpower, it looks pretty solid IMO.
  
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Reply #10 - Jun 7th, 2015 at 9:52pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Jun 7th, 2015 at 11:55am:
I agree, you could get more from cleaves than shield bash and mastery lines. And shield feats dont really matter in heroic for swashbucklers. Cleave with guardbreaking would add more over those feats. Otherwise get frozen fury, since youre charisma based and you wont need cleaves then.

Evasion still beats light armor and no evasion in heroic quests. MRR from shield feats and stalwart stance would be decent however. Dropping fighter levels gets you much less hp and you need 4 levels of rogue to make up the saves hit from stalwart's +3. If you get reflex to 45-50, you can go evade at 95% in etk end fight(with a full party). Only things that still hit would be monastery traps which can go as high as 60~ dc.


Killer is a shitload of DPS...I'll probably end up going 4 rogue.
  

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Reply #11 - Jun 8th, 2015 at 2:04am
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5FS's Swash Ass Warlock (v3.0)

Race: Drow
Alignment: Neutral
Class: 9 Warlock/7 Bard/4 Rogue
(RB BR BB RB BR BW WW WW WW WW)


Stats:..........(36 pt build)

Strength............8 
Dexterity...........12 (+1 tome or better required)
Constitution.......12
Intelligence........17
Wisdom..............8
Charisma............20 (+ level ups)


Feat Progression

Level 1   : Single Weapon Fighting
Level 3   : Precision
Level 6   : Maximize Spell
Level 9   : Improved Single Weapon Fighting
Level 12 : Improved Critical-Piercing
Level 15 : Greater Single Weapon Fighting
Level 18 : Open



Enhancements


Swashbuckler: 35 AP

Core 3/6
On Your Toes 3/3
Tavern Shanties 1/3
En Pointe 3/3
Double Strike AB 3/3 (6 pts)
Resonant Arms 3/3 (6 pts)
Dashing Scoundrel
Smooth Flourishes (2 pts)
Slap in the Face
+1 Cha
+1 Cha
Coup De Grace
Exploit Weaknesses (2 pts)
Thread the Needle (2 pts)


Assassin: 25 AP

Core 1/6
Sneak Attack Training 4/4 (8 pts)
Shiv 2/3
Venomed Blades 3/3
Damage AB 3/3
Critical Mastery 3/3
+1 Int
Killer 3/3


Warchanter: 13 AP

Core 2/6
Enchant Weapon (2 pts)
Rough & Ready 2/3
Iced Edges 3/3
Sprint AB 1/3
Frozen Fury 3/3


Harper: 6 AP

Core 1/6
Strategic Combat (2 pts)
Harper Enchantment (2 pts)
Know the Angles (1/3)


Enlightened Spirit: 1 AP?



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Reply #12 - Jun 8th, 2015 at 7:44am
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Warlock will be quite strong.Esp shira warlocks, what is there to hate from 30% critical damage from a 12 warlock base for shiradi?

If they put the proposed changes on live from the magic damage it will be a very  strong build, aka 12 warl 6 wiz 2 soul.

Sigh, turbine and their ideas clearly show me they have no fucking clue how casters in epic work.

By some random testing on lama, il guarantee you guys that crit damage is slighlty op as it is now


Or put simple, i plan to do all 3 warlock lifes as casters, since you can reach higher dc in all schools anyways with current proposal, or have best shiradi synergy.
Whatever you do, you cant really fuck up and it will be quite ee viable and a nice changer compared to braindead palie/bard/xbow/barb recently, and its fun to play a new class.
Sick and tired of palie and barb lately
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Reply #13 - Jun 8th, 2015 at 9:30pm
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Lelouch wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 7:44am:
Warlock will be quite strong.Esp shira warlocks, what is there to hate from 30% critical damage from a 12 warlock base for shiradi?

If they put the proposed changes on live from the magic damage it will be a very  strong build, aka 12 warl 6 wiz 2 soul.

Sigh, turbine and their ideas clearly show me they have no fucking clue how casters in epic work.

By some random testing on lama, il guarantee you guys that crit damage is slighlty op as it is now


Or put simple, i plan to do all 3 warlock lifes as casters, since you can reach higher dc in all schools anyways with current proposal, or have best shiradi synergy.
Whatever you do, you cant really fuck up and it will be quite ee viable and a nice changer compared to braindead palie/bard/xbow/barb recently, and its fun to play a new class.
Sick and tired of palie and barb lately

15 warlock/3 wiz/2 soul would be even better, if they change epic levels to add up to caster levels.
  
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Reply #14 - Jun 11th, 2015 at 9:43am
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There is really no need for all these weird ass multiclasses. Warlocks are OP with their chain strike as it. You can solo just about anything on EE. With PDK and epic divine past lives the PRR is not bad at all. And we have only had the chance to try 2/3 of the enhancement so its still a little to early to completely judge the warlock.
  
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Reply #15 - Jun 11th, 2015 at 11:38pm
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Tested it, it was shitty and unfun. More like borelock.
  

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Reply #16 - Jun 12th, 2015 at 12:20am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 11th, 2015 at 11:38pm:
Tested it, it was shitty and unfun. More like borelock.


I am sorry you wasted your efforts to arrive at the same conclusion that many of us have had without.
  

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Reply #17 - Jun 12th, 2015 at 10:58am
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Jun 12th, 2015 at 12:20am:
I am sorry you wasted your efforts to arrive at the same conclusion that many of us have had without.


You old bums need to lighten up and just try to enjoy running the quests with a brand new class.
  
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Reply #18 - Jun 18th, 2015 at 8:53am
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I prefer the +20 heart for my warlock life. Saved that freebee up for a rainy day!
  

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Reply #19 - Jun 24th, 2015 at 9:57am
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Have you run that version 3 yet? I have about 25 days left on VIP from last year's 15 month deal and limited playtime. Looking to zip to 20 for the completionist PL before that runs out and don't have the +20 to spare.

Also don't have a lot of twinkage gear on this toon for heroics as I've mainly run him as a 6/6/8 arti/rog/INSERT CLASS build prior to this upcoming life.
  

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Reply #20 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 10:49pm
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Rabbit wrote on Jun 24th, 2015 at 9:57am:
Have you run that version 3 yet? I have about 25 days left on VIP from last year's 15 month deal and limited playtime. Looking to zip to 20 for the completionist PL before that runs out and don't have the +20 to spare.

Also don't have a lot of twinkage gear on this toon for heroics as I've mainly run him as a 6/6/8 arti/rog/INSERT CLASS build prior to this upcoming life.


No, I just got around to it the other day, so I'm still in the harbor. It's pretty straightforward if you've played a swash before though.
  

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