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Best Last Level for 18 Rog Bladeforged XBow Build?
Sep 2nd, 2015 at 8:10pm
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Looking at doing some PL's on a Bladeforged ranged rogue. Not interested in messing with a +1 heart so I'm stuck with 1 paladin level. Really leaning 18 rogue since I want the rogue past lives hear anyway and the only compelling split I can see other than 18/2 or 18/1/1 is 15 paladin/5 rogue or 14/6 which wouldn't get me the rogue past life.

Looking at what I get from that paladin second paladin left though I'm not very impressed. Not much in the way of enhancements since I'd be going KTA anyway, Charisma to saves of course but the charisma would just be good, not great. Trying to decide if I'm better off going that route or going 18 rog/1 pal/1 arti to pick up Rapid Reload, Scrolls boost, Magical Training, the nice little lever puller, and summoned bolts.
  
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Re: Best Last Level for 18 Rog Bladeforged XBow Build?
Reply #1 - Sep 2nd, 2015 at 9:37pm
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Re: Best Last Level for 18 Rog Bladeforged XBow Build?
Reply #2 - Sep 2nd, 2015 at 11:22pm
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Take arty level. Maybe fighter level but ap is tight to grab haste there.
  

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Re: Best Last Level for 18 Rog Bladeforged XBow Build?
Reply #3 - Sep 3rd, 2015 at 2:13pm
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Another Rogue level would get you another Sneak Attack die and a 4th Special Ability feat.

1 Wizard level would get you a metamagic feat and Magical Training if that has any value to you.
  
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Re: Best Last Level for 18 Rog Bladeforged XBow Build?
Reply #4 - Sep 3rd, 2015 at 3:18pm
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CosmicCharlie wrote on Sep 2nd, 2015 at 9:37pm:
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Yep, only one BF life on my main ranged geezer before I TRed back to a shorter graphic.
  
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Re: Best Last Level for 18 Rog Bladeforged XBow Build?
Reply #5 - Sep 3rd, 2015 at 5:00pm
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I'd just go for another paladin level.  cha = 26 (8 base + 11 items + 5 tome + 2 ship) with no investment.  +8 to all saves.
  
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Re: Best Last Level for 18 Rog Bladeforged XBow Build?
Reply #6 - Sep 4th, 2015 at 12:21pm
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Digimonk wrote on Sep 3rd, 2015 at 2:13pm:
1 Wizard level would get you a metamagic feat and Magical Training if that has any value to you.


This is actually vaguely interesting too for the Invis SLA. Not sure if it's enough to trump the saves of paladin, the free bolts from arti, etc, but I really like taking the SLA on those 1 wizard splashes.
  
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Re: Best Last Level for 18 Rog Bladeforged XBow Build?
Reply #7 - Sep 4th, 2015 at 12:30pm
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Thought of something else too...if I go Bladeforged here I could see two different ways to go - I could either spend a feat on Insightful Reflexes and not spend a feat on a body type or I could go Adamantine Body which would invalidate evasion but allow for a lot more PRR/MRR as well as Shadow Guardian on the Shadowforged Docent. I'm thinking that pre-28 I'd be better off with the evasion but once I get into the Shadowforged the massive DR tacked on to the PRR/MRR would be better.

I noticed several people talking about the height difference as well. Is it significant enough to make it worth giving up extra PRR/MRR, fortification, and reconstruct and going Shadar Kai instead? I think this past life playing a Bladeforged Paladin has been one of my favorite in a long time as I can actually get into the thick of things and come out alive - haven't had that experience on many of my characters most of which were built to maximize damage instead of survivability. That said, I can see how the size could play a significant role in lining up IPS's. Are Shadar Kai short enough to get significant benefit there? Not being tied to the capstone that build would open up runearms for me as well which would be a nice bonus.

Last thoughts I had if the height is really enough of an issue to make Bladeforged unattractive...would a Morninglord actually do better than a Shadar Kai? If I'm going int-based I get more int, longer point blank/sneak range, heal as a class skill, a cheap heal, nightshield as a spell, magical training...honestly quite a bit there. Then I could either go 19/1 for more sneak damage and an extra feat or 18/1/1 arti for a feat and summon bolts. I could also go halfling and use a 2 million xp stone which would let me pick up an Epic past life on that pass but burn the stone.
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Re: Best Last Level for 18 Rog Bladeforged XBow Build?
Reply #8 - Sep 5th, 2015 at 8:51am
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You will get different opinions from different people but imo yes even the difference between BF and SK is noticeable. I TRed a BF Monkcher and am very happy I did. It's annoying as piss.
  
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Re: Best Last Level for 18 Rog Bladeforged XBow Build?
Reply #9 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 10:20pm
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I'd go SK. That'll let you go pure or 2 arti. Also the height thing.
  

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