Monster autoscaling for level 30 quests has been removed, and monster stats for level 30 quests have been manually adjusted. This applies to any CR 30 quest (Level 28 quests on Elite, for example.)

Short version: We are very interested in your feedback when playing level 30 quests in Update 28 onwards, in regards to monster balance. In particular, please pay attention to monster saving throws.

To give some clarification:

Any changes are going to be primarily noticeable on Epic Elite, and barely noticeable on Epic Normal.
For years there's been a sort of behind the scenes in-code "autobalancer" that's automatically adjusted many monster statistics "on the fly", based on quest level and difficulty.
We want to get away from using this, as with higher and higher levels the automatic scaling does things we don't really want it to, and it means the literal data files are not representing the actual strength of the monsters. This makes it harder for us to get a good read on exact monster strengths, etc. So in the future, at least, we're not going to use this tool, which will make things simpler and faster for us to create and balance monsters (and not surprise new team members with monsters that are stronger than they actually statted them).

These were all done using very precise math, so we know what the autoscaler was doing. We just want to eliminate that extra step going on. So we've turned off the autoscaler for Level 30 quests (on Normal), and we fixed the non-scaled, static monster values to what we wanted them to be (we basically did the math the autoscaler was doing already).

We did take this opportunity to intentionally lower some numbers. In particular, saving throws for many monsters are going to be quite a bit lower. Some hitpoints have gone down as well.
Yes, there is a chance that the large amount of changes could include errors. Your attention to monsters and feedback is considered very helpful here!


Going forward into the future, this is definitely a clear win for us - we expect to be able to create and balance monsters more quickly and more accurately across the entire team, with less chance for unexpected behavior.

All monster saving throws were subject to change for all level 30 quests, amongst other monster statistics (but mostly saving throws).

This includes:
Defiler of the Just • Demon Assault • Fire on Thunder Peak • Grim and Barett • Multitude of Menace • Subversion • Tavern Brawl (quest) • Temple of Elemental Evil Part One • Temple of Elemental Evil Part Two• Temple of the Deathwyrm • The Archons' Trial • The Devil's Details • The Mark of Death • The Mask of Deception

(of course the newest, U28 quests weren't really "changed" per se)

Archers in the new stuff hit pretty fucking hard on EE. More so than the melee

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/465793-Did-they-steathy-increased-EE-d...
i think for melees only tree can solo EE TOEE nao..i was like WDF

It's really fun now.
Just did couple part 1 runs on my 59 prr/780 hp assassin with my warlock friend.
Mob pulling, line of sight use, respect for groups of mobs.
Awesome change. Should be every EE from 20 - 28.

probably doesnt have barb and primal lives and also divine/pdk either. not much else in pure rogue from AP.

guessing 35 sheltering item
21 in light with rogue bab at lv 28?
5 circle of malevolence

Never tried gearing an assassin. or playing one either. What rings would one wear? New Doj ring and cicrcle came to mind. epic assassins kiss for assassinate dc and imp deception on weapon. backstabber gloves for imp dec item?

are you going to make me roll one just to show you how incite doesnt even matter

Hey look everyone Devilyouknow is here trying to post.

How'd you like that ass-raping you got in your Ranger thread on the MOBO?

Jesus Christ, you're a whiny little bitch.

Actually it does look that way Yardarm_, to an outside reader your positional points keep changing on that thread and many posters do seem to be crucifying you. 

I would think that it would be much more worrying for you that it all seems to have the tacit approval of Turbine, almost every poster that really embarrassed you on Thursday and Friday are still posting, even the ones that posted the Memes making fun of you publicly. Heck even the Memes are still posted and un-pulled. Looks like your unfounded complaints and alarm have birthed an unholy marriage between Fanboi and Turbycritics.

Which while impressive, should probably worry you.

Oh here is one last thing, you may not be aware of it, but when you log on here and on the forums it shows you logging on and logging off both at the same time Devilyouknow.

You should consider turning off the "stay logged on" option for at least one, or both unless you don't mind people being able to see it's you.

I just thought I would offer the suggestion, to be honest I can never tell if you are trying to hide who you are day to day, because you are pretty inconsistent and random.

Food for thought.

so what am I missing that makes him a idiot?

Hmmm.....