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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Suggest a Bard build/tips for 32 point first life Reply #25 - Oct 12^th, 2015 at 12:09am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 10:31pm: If you had dragonmark feats or something else that became obsolete, then you should have a feat respec token in your feat list. Go see Fred. If that doesn't work,...well that was the reason they gave out those +20 hearts, remember? I did have a respec token, it gave me feats for 6 and 9 (dragonmarks) but 3 was just gone. I used a plain LH, I'm still saving my +20 for something really bad The client hung in the middle of LR, but I just waited and after about 1/2 hour it recovered and I finished.

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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Suggest a Bard build/tips for 32 point first life Reply #26 - Oct 12^th, 2015 at 12:10am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 10:35pm: I'm pretty sure they upped the drop rate at some point. I never farmed for it before, but both time I bothered going out there recently I pulled one (after a reroll or 2.) I'll give it a try and report back when either I get it or give up

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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Suggest a Bard build/tips for 32 point first life Reply #27 - Oct 12^th, 2015 at 4:43am	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 12:09am: I did have a respec token, it gave me feats for 6 and 9 (dragonmarks) but 3 was just gone. Do you have a feat chosen later on for which the lvl three feat is a pre-req? If you do, the pre-req will not show up in the list of feats to change. Took me a while to figure that out last time I visited Fred, was trying to swap out point blank shot and couldn't find it, forgot that I had taken Combat Archery, so I had to swap that out before PBS became available.

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totally DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 457 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: Suggest a Bard build/tips for 32 point first life Reply #28 - Oct 12^th, 2015 at 5:47am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 10:35pm: I'm pretty sure they upped the drop rate at some point. I never farmed for it before, but both time I bothered going out there recently I pulled one (after a reroll or 2.) They have definitely upped the drop rate. I farmed mine for my current ranger life, and it took me precisely 8 runs (I was counting) to get two. You can manage a full cycle on a quickly specced out barb or monk human vet 7 with dragonmark ddoor in about two minutes. If no vet 7 go with a low int (so not too many skill points to set in creation) iconic sorc with haste and ddoor. Not quite as fast run speed and takes longer to create the character, but one shots the rare obv.


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Selee Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 985 Location: Atlanta, GA Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Suggest a Bard build/tips for 32 point first life Reply #29 - Oct 12^th, 2015 at 11:19am	Print Post
	totally wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 5:47am: They have definitely upped the drop rate. I farmed mine for my current ranger life, and it took me precisely 8 runs (I was counting) to get two. Good to know!

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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Suggest a Bard build/tips for 32 point first life Reply #30 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 8:31am	Print Post
	Starkjade wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 4:43am: Do you have a feat chosen later on for which the lvl three feat is a pre-req?� If you do, the pre-req will not show up in the list of feats to change.� Took me a while to figure that out last time I visited Fred, was trying to swap out point blank shot and couldn't find it, forgot that I had taken Combat Archery, so I had to swap that out before PBS became available. I went through my list of feats and looked for that, I was pretty sure I accounted for all, but it's always possible that I missed one. But it's too late to check again, I already used the heart. The fact that I was 14 and respecked 6 and 9 with tokens and 12 with plat and dragonshards means it would have had to be an enhancement prerequisite, and I only had 12 AP spent (I hadn't finished re-allocating AP since the enhancement crash) so that also seems unlikely, but possible. I don't know if my guild mate has used her heart yet, I'll ask about her feats if she hasn't.

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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Suggest a Bard build/tips for 32 point first life Reply #31 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:54pm	Print Post
	OK, I think I found the bugged feat. She gave me her feat list. I think she (and probably me too, though too late to confirm) had Toughness at level 3 and Fred doesn't see it. I don't think anything has it as a prerequisite now, does it? Here's the full list. She still has a lesser +0 heart, so she's going to re-level this week. Arcane Lore Attack Cleave Defensive Fighting Dismiss Charm Elven Keen Senses Enchantment Save bonus Fascinate Heroic Durability Immunity to Sleep Improved Heroic Durability Improved Inspire Courage Inspire Competence Inspire Couraage Inspire Greatness Light Armor Profecience Magical Training Martial Weapon Prof (Longbow, Longsword, Rapier, Shortsword, Shortbow) Power Attack Religeous Lore Shield Proficiency (General) Simple Weapon Proficiency (lots) Sneak Suggestion Sunder Toughness Trip Uncanny Dodge (Swash Core 3) Wilderness Lore === Sources ======= Power Attack (Character 1) Cleave (Character 6) Magical Training (Character 9) =====Fred offers to retrain====== Cleave (Character 6) Magical Training (Character 9)

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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Suggest a Bard build/tips for 32 point first life Reply #32 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 6:24pm	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:54pm: I think she (and probably me too, though too late to confirm) had Toughness at level 3 and Fred doesn't see it. There's always been trouble with Toughness, since it can be taken at any level and multiple times. That could be the problem right there, especially on an old build that hasn't been logged in amidst so many changes.

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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Suggest a Bard build/tips for 32 point first life Reply #33 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 8:33pm	Print Post
	Starkjade wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 6:24pm: There's always been trouble with Toughness, since it can be taken at any level and multiple times.� That could be the problem right there, especially on an old build that hasn't been logged in amidst so many changes. Yeah, we've both got alt-itis and you know how badly Bards used to suck, I don't think either had been played in the year up to the Enhancement Crash, and certainly neither has been played since. Toughness used to be a pre-req for some enhancements, so we probably both had it. Not that I think it likely, but if any Turbine employee reads this, having all feats show up in Fred's list and the unswappable ones show a red "why you can't swap" explanation would be a huge improvement. I think we found the cause if not a solution, and we both have lesser hearts for workaround. Anyway, thanks for having a look!

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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Suggest a Bard build/tips for 32 point first life Reply #34 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:10pm	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 8:33pm: Toughness used to be a pre-req for some enhancements, so we probably both had it. You and everyone else, at that point!

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Shaitaan Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2 Joined: Oct 19^th, 2015	Re: Suggest a Bard build/tips for 32 point first life Reply #35 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 10:53pm	Print Post
	What is the point in using Guardbreaking Bucklers? The Wiki says it dazes monsters, are you using it for crowd control on cleaves?


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Suggest a Bard build/tips for 32 point first life Reply #36 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 10:59pm	Print Post
	Shaitaan wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 10:53pm: are you using it for crowd control on cleaves? yeah. wide crit range on swash with exploit weakness. helps mitigate aggro in crowds

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	I "suggest" you don't ever play a fucking bard; what are you, nuts?


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WeHaveLived Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 945 Joined: Apr 24^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Suggest a Bard build/tips for 32 point first life Reply #38 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 5:56pm	Print Post
	Hi Welcome


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Rabbit Korthos Resident Offline Loves to cuddle Posts: 25 Location: Down the hole Joined: Jul 12^th, 2014	Re: Suggest a Bard build/tips for 32 point first life Reply #39 - Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 11:48am	Print Post
	PDK CHA variant would work fairly well I'd assume for the Iconic life?

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WeHaveLived Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 945 Joined: Apr 24^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Suggest a Bard build/tips for 32 point first life Reply #40 - Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 5:19pm	Print Post
	PDK CHA-based WC/SB works pretty well.


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Doodle Abbot Raider Offline Shoot first ask questions later! Posts: 991 Location: Purgatory Joined: Jun 16^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Suggest a Bard build/tips for 32 point first life Reply #41 - Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 5:58pm	Print Post
	14 bard/4ftr/2 rogue or Fvs. Rogue for sneak dice,traps, evasion. 12 b/4ftr/4fvs for the Prr, hp, and ameliorating strike for heals? Straight 20 pdk bard works too for more cc abilities etc. Tons of bard builds that work just depends on what you wanna do.


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