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Artificer Past Life
Oct 23rd, 2015 at 12:05am
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I need an artificer past life.  I have some +5 hearts that I don't mind using.  I'm considering the following splits for an Int based heavy/great crossbow build.

12 Ranger / 5 Rogue / 3 Artificer
12 Rogue / 5 Ranger / 3 Artificer
14 Rogue / 6 Artificer
14 Ranger / 6 Artificer

I suspect that the 12/5/3 ranger/rogue/arti may be my best bet due to the crit range bous from DWS cores while taking Int to Hit and Dmg from Harper and tier 5s in Mechanic.

Thoughts on which would be the best given the mass changes in the patch?
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Re: Artificer Past Life
Reply #1 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 1:53am
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Digimonk wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 12:05am:
I need an artificer past life.  I have some +5 hearts that I don't mind using.  I'm considering the following splits for an Int based heavy/great crossbow build.

12 Ranger / 5 Rogue / 3 Artificer
12 Rogue / 5 Ranger / 3 Artificer
14 Rogue / 6 Artificer
14 Ranger / 6 Artificer

I suspect that the 12/5/3 ranger/rogue/arti may be my best bet due to the crit range bous from DWS cores while taking Int to Hit and Dmg from Harper and tier 5s in Mechanic.

Thoughts on which would be the best given the mass changes in the patch?


How will you get an artificer past live out of those builds?
  
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Reply #2 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 1:54am
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Are you asking to have one of those builds then using the hearts to change classes to make the arti past live?
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Reply #3 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 4:33am
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Just play pure INT WF based Arti. Those only suck in epics, heroic Levels 1-20 are quite easy on a selfhealing ranged build. If you don't have epic primal pastlives for doubleshot the doubleshot nerf to repeaters isn't an issue because you won't have much doubleshot in heroics anyway. Blade barrier and tactic detonation are good in heroics too.
  

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Reply #4 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 4:55am
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arti is actually really good in heroics, they suck past 20 however. no reason to lesser out of something into the arti pastlife.
  
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Reply #5 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 7:09am
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Vendui wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 4:55am:
arti is actually really good in heroics, they suck past 20 however. no reason to lesser out of something into the arti pastlife.


Is there a heroic past live that sucks bad anymore? Besides monk perhaps? Compared to the pain in the ass that barb and paladin lifes were before the passes everything goes quite smooth for me.
  

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Reply #6 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 1:35pm
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Doodle wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 1:54am:
Are you asking to have one of those builds then using the hearts to change classes to make the arti past live?

Yes, that is my plan and why I mentioned that I have +5 hearts available.
  
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Reply #7 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 1:48pm
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string table error, tableDID wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 4:33am:
Just play pure INT WF based Arti. Those only suck in epics, heroic Levels 1-20 are quite easy on a selfhealing ranged build. If you don't have epic primal pastlives for doubleshot the doubleshot nerf to repeaters isn't an issue because you won't have much doubleshot in heroics anyway. Blade barrier and tactic detonation are good in heroics too.

Vendui wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 4:55am:
arti is actually really good in heroics, they suck past 20 however. no reason to lesser out of something into the arti pastlife.

I plan on playing to 28 for the eTR in addition to the hTR which is why I don't plan on going pure Artie.  Going to 28 and spending a little time there doing a round of 20 completions on some of the raids helps break up the monotony of the Completionist grind a bit.  At least for me it does.

I realize builds with an artie splash will not be a min/max'd faceroller in EE.  I am okay with that.  I am just looking for an artie splash build that will be at least somewhat viable in EE and that can get me the past life with a +5 heart.  I have a good selection of named gear at all levels which I hope will somewhat compensate for the shortcomings in epics.

I think that either the 12 ranger or 12 rogue versions would qualify as "somewhat" viable in EE.  I'm more looking for nitpicky details on why one is better than the other.  If anyone can present a solid argument on why a 14/6 build would be better than 12/5/3, even better.


  
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Re: Artificer Past Life
Reply #8 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 3:34pm
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Digimonk wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 1:35pm:
Yes, that is my plan and why I mentioned that I have +5 hearts available.


Just could have made that a bit clearer is all. Just go arti to
20 and save your +5's.   

Just read you other post.  Do what you will then.  There are good suggestions here.
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Reply #9 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 8:21pm
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Digimonk wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 1:48pm:
I plan on playing to 28 for the eTR in addition to the hTR which is why I don't plan on going pure Artie.  Going to 28 and spending a little time there doing a round of 20 completions on some of the raids helps break up the monotony of the Completionist grind a bit.  At least for me it does.

I realize builds with an artie splash will not be a min/max'd faceroller in EE.  I am okay with that.  I am just looking for an artie splash build that will be at least somewhat viable in EE and that can get me the past life with a +5 heart.  I have a good selection of named gear at all levels which I hope will somewhat compensate for the shortcomings in epics.

I think that either the 12 ranger or 12 rogue versions would qualify as "somewhat" viable in EE.  I'm more looking for nitpicky details on why one is better than the other.  If anyone can present a solid argument on why a 14/6 build would be better than 12/5/3, even better.





If you want my honest opinion, its more-wise to just do 20 artie, tr, then do a flavor you like to do etrs from 20-28, just my 2 cents though, being as you have to wait 3 days between the lessers and all to get enough arti to get the pastlife.
  
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Reply #10 - Oct 24th, 2015 at 12:10am
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Vendui wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 8:21pm:
If you want my honest opinion, its more-wise to just do 20 artie, tr, then do a flavor you like to do etrs from 20-28, just my 2 cents though, being as you have to wait 3 days between the lessers and all to get enough arti to get the pastlife.

I am fairly sure lesser reincarnation and true reincarnation are separate 3-day timers.  You only have to wait 3 days to do a lesser and another lesser or a true and another true.

  
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Reply #11 - Oct 24th, 2015 at 2:18am
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Digimonk wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 12:10am:
I am fairly sure lesser reincarnation and true reincarnation are separate 3-day timers.  You only have to wait 3 days to do a lesser and another lesser or a true and another true.


Dint see you were doing 3 artie, carry on.. (12/6/2 would leave you 1 level shy of getting PL artie)

Though really, its a "waste" of a heart XD
  
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Reply #12 - Oct 24th, 2015 at 12:03pm
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Vendui wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 2:18am:
Dint see you were doing 3 artie, carry on.. (12/6/2 would leave you 1 level shy of getting PL artie)

Though really, its a "waste" of a heart XD

Yeah, it is a waste but I've got more than I'll ever need so at the least, it frees up a bank slot.

Thoughts on whether 12 ranger or 12 rogue would be better?  It seems to be a matter of crits vs sneak attack die.
  
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Reply #13 - Oct 24th, 2015 at 1:03pm
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Digimonk wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 12:03pm:
Yeah, it is a waste but I've got more than I'll ever need so at the least, it frees up a bank slot.

Thoughts on whether 12 ranger or 12 rogue would be better?  It seems to be a matter of crits vs sneak attack die.


t5 DWS either way. rogue nets you 3d6 more SA, while ranger nets x1 multiplier, iirc..
  
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Reply #14 - Oct 24th, 2015 at 4:49pm
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Vendui wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 1:03pm:
t5 DWS either way. rogue nets you 3d6 more SA, while ranger nets x1 multiplier, iirc..

T5 DWS is better than T5 Mechanic for a great xbow build?  Is 10% doubleshot better than +1 dmg, 5 ranged power, +2W, +4d6 Sneak Attack die, +5% Vorpal range, and 30% ranged alacrity?

DWS T5:
+5 Dmg
5 Ranged Power
10 Ranged Power
20% Doubleshot
Head Shot

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Mechanic T5:
+6 dmg
10 Ranged Power
10% Doubleshot
+2W
+4d6 SA die
Vorpal on 19-20
30% Ranged Alacrity

  
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Reply #15 - Oct 24th, 2015 at 4:50pm
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"a great xbow build"

no such thing, faggot; also, kill yourself.
  
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Reply #16 - Oct 24th, 2015 at 4:58pm
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Reply #17 - Oct 24th, 2015 at 5:02pm
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[] wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 4:50pm:
"a great xbow build"

no such thing, faggot; also, kill yourself.

Doesn't carry much weight coming from a gibberish spamming noob troll who just joined the forums 8 days ago and doesn't know anything about DDO outside of fury shot.

Try a lower forum difficulty level. 

Come back when you know things like how to get your dex above 80 and how to check the last post date on a thread.

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Reply #18 - Oct 24th, 2015 at 10:20pm
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Digimonk wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 4:49pm:
+4d6 SA die

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Reply #19 - Oct 28th, 2015 at 11:41pm
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[] wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 4:50pm:
"a great xbow build"

no such thing, faggot; also, kill yourself.


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