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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: u29 named items Reply #25 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 5:22am	Print Post
	apep wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 4:45am: Quality potency should stack with anything other than quality bonuses to individual spellpowers, like the quality magnetism from the cloak. You're misinterpreting.� E.g.: electric spellpower = max(magnetism, potency) + implement bonus + spellcraft, etc. Ignore implement and spellcraft for now.� If you have magnetism of 150 and potency of 100, your electric spellpower is 150.� If you in addition have a quality potency of 36, your potency is 136 and your magnetism is 150 - you still have electric spellpower of 150.�
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Barkabout Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1032 Joined: Aug 15^th, 2013	Re: u29 named items Reply #26 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 5:45am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 2:23am: all of those heroic items are good. ton of new heroic loot out since shadowfell. All good items with ML ranges from 11-18 unless you are new to the game, is there any reason to be excited about the heroic loot since motu? even on a tr, does any of the heroic loot really help you level up any faster in mid heroic to early epic levels?


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Skrilla Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1362 Joined: Dec 12^th, 2013	Re: u29 named items Reply #27 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 6:47am	Print Post
	I just got one of those heroic trinkets. the umd ones.. it only has +2 umd now.. just a lil less than the 16 they were listing.. fucking turdbine


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: u29 named items Reply #28 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 6:53am	Print Post
	Barkabout wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 5:45am: even on a tr, does any of the heroic loot really help you level up any faster in mid heroic to early epic levels? I love heroic gear. threw all mine out because I hate heroics and no room for all that btc shit. But if i tr'd more than I stay capped, then I would get all the shinies.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: u29 named items Reply #29 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 8:09am	Print Post
	AtomicMew wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 5:22am: You're misinterpreting.� E.g.: electric spellpower = max(magnetism, potency) + implement bonus + spellcraft, etc. Ignore implement and spellcraft for now.� If you have magnetism of 150 and potency of 100, your electric spellpower is 150.� If you in addition have a quality potency of 36, your potency is 136 and your magnetism is 150 - you still have electric spellpower of 150.� Really? That's not how I understood it. I thought it was: Max(enchant mag,enchant pot) + max(insight mag,insight pot) + max(quality mag,quail pot). Basically enchant +insight + quality. That's how it works on other stuff. What you are saying would mean they are deviating from "like type bonuses don't stack but bonuses from different types do) because you have a quality bonus not stacking with an enchantment bonus. I didn't test on lama tho.


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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: u29 named items Reply #30 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 8:21am	Print Post
	Skrilla wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 6:47am: I just got one of those heroic trinkets. the umd ones.. it only has +2 umd now.. just a lil less than the 16 they were listing.. fucking turdbine

	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: u29 named items Reply #31 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 9:18am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 2:02am: the ring has insightful dodge. what other items grant that? probably not necessary for melees to slot an item with 6 insightful dodge and a yellow slot. This is the Monk pass.

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Macvann Dirty Sock Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 18 Joined: Nov 1^st, 2015	Re: u29 named items Reply #32 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 9:29am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 2:02am: medium armor with 159 fort, 14 to saves..., 17 doublestrike, 38 sheltering(both prr+mrr). Giving up toee set bonus, and shadow armor has ghostly. Mhm, dunno if it's worth droping toee set if you already have it, unless you really need that extra saves. 17 DS and 38 PRR/MRR is good but you already can have 35 PRR/MRR with sightless and 12 DS with deathwrym belt. 20 MP from set is a lot and I think is better than extra 5% DS, unless new wepons are much better than toee ones (not very hard) I woudn't do it.


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apep Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 244 Joined: Apr 11^th, 2011	Re: u29 named items Reply #33 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 9:33am	Print Post
	AtomicMew wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 5:22am: You're misinterpreting.� E.g.: electric spellpower = max(magnetism, potency) + implement bonus + spellcraft, etc. Ignore implement and spellcraft for now.� If you have magnetism of 150 and potency of 100, your electric spellpower is 150.� If you in addition have a quality potency of 36, your potency is 136 and your magnetism is 150 - you still have electric spellpower of 150.� Potency give an x bonus to individual spellpowers. Each bonus is determined separately. Even before the update, you could see this with the alchemical bonuses from potions. If you have a 150 (equipment) magnetism item and drink a 10 (alchemical) potency pot, the 10 alchemical bonus stacks with the 150 magnetism item.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: u29 named items Reply #34 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 9:58am	Print Post
	Macvann wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 9:29am: unless new wepons are much better than toee ones (not very hard) I woudn't do it. Yeah, 20 MP is a lot. If you don't already have the toee set, this armor is a strong option. It offers max doublestrike, max saves(+7 should be correct), max sheltering, max fort, and 2 slots. Frees up belt for epic rememberance, 1 lower con and 6 less melee power from sightless. Possibly frees up or adds dodge and resistance items. Or in the case of epic reprisals for swashbucklers, and Braided Beards for int based melees.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Macvann Dirty Sock Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 18 Joined: Nov 1^st, 2015	Re: u29 named items Reply #35 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 10:19am	Print Post
	Yep, got your point. The key imo is how much better are new GS weps compared to toee one (no clue at all on new weps), if they are so much better that can make up, combined with the extra DS from armor, for 20 MP then yep, I would drop toee set. I would consider wearing sightless even with new armor since MP from gear is hard to get (only toee set and that helm iirc) and there are not much better or worthy helms except from mythic emerald gaze (and maybe some other I can't remeber).


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: u29 named items Reply #36 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 10:52am	Print Post
	Macvann wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 10:19am: I would consider wearing sightless even with new armor since MP from gear is hard to get (only toee set and that helm iirc) and there are not much better or worthy helms except from mythic emerald gaze (and maybe some other I can't remeber) very true. outside of sightless, dragon masque and mythic gaze ; the head slot is rather weak

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: u29 named items Reply #37 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 11:28am	Print Post
	As far as the new gear goes, I'm not as down on it as some of you are.� I think there are some nice pieces in there.� Although, loot gen seems better.� I'm not sure what gear, besides Epic Litany and and Sightless and Visions (on a monk) will really have a lot of sticking power for named loot.� It looks like the loot gen numbers are just redonk high.� That Warrior's focus necklace looks really nice.� Might get me to pull off Shroud of the Ardent.� Especially if I can get some solid Heal amp items in loot gen now.� I like the skins on the shields and some of the armors.
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Metal-Beast Abbot Raider Offline \m/ Posts: 767 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2014	Re: u29 named items Reply #38 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:07pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 11:28am: I like the skins on the shields and some of the armors. This. Once again, the art department delivers. I'll grab some Mirrors, if they ever unfuck the store. Honestly, I don't hate this gear. Especially since the ToEE sets were a pipe dream for me. The grief to craft a set wasn't worth it, IMHO. Where is the Heroic stuff dropping?

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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: u29 named items Reply #39 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:19pm	Print Post
	apep wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 9:33am: Potency give an x bonus to individual spellpowers. Each bonus is determined separately. Even before the update, you could see this with the alchemical bonuses from potions. If you have a 150 (equipment) magnetism item and drink a 10 (alchemical) potency pot, the 10 alchemical bonus stacks with the 150 magnetism item. the efficacy potions gave bonus to universal spell power, which is different than potency. I guess it shouldn't be hard to find out how it works, once someone pulls one :p


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gibbon Dragon Raider Offline smhma in a cube Posts: 256 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2014	Re: u29 named items Reply #40 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:39pm	Print Post
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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: u29 named items Reply #41 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 4:17pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 8:09am: Really?� That's not how I understood it.� I thought it was: Max(enchant mag,enchant pot) + max(insight mag,insight pot) + max(quality mag,quail pot).� �Basically enchant +insight + quality.� �That's how it works on other stuff.� �What you are saying would mean they are deviating from "like type bonuses don't stack but bonuses from different types do) because you have a quality bonus not stacking with an enchantment bonus.� � I didn't test on lama tho.� According to varg, it should work like you are saying, but it currently doesn't work. Supposedly it is incorrectly typed as equipment bonus. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/469286-Quality-Potency


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: u29 named items Reply #42 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 4:23pm	Print Post
	AtomicMew wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 4:17pm: According to varg, it should work like you are saying, but it currently doesn't work.� Supposedly it is incorrectly typed as equipment bonus.� https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/469286-Quality-Potency Gotcha. Those insight bonuses and quality bonuses are actually decently large at end game. They need to get that shit fixed. It also provides some flexibility for gear.


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