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Been hearing rumors of new 1k cut usage
Jan 31st, 2016 at 2:22pm
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Without giving it away too much saw a dwarf with a shield and throwing axe doing some god awful things to a portal in LE shroud last night. Was a Bard/ranger. 

Anyone know what I'm talking about?
  
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Reply #1 - Jan 31st, 2016 at 9:51pm
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Not I. Am interested in hearing about it though.
  
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Reply #2 - Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:17pm
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You already posted it in a public forum. Just fucking say it.
  
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Reply #3 - Feb 1st, 2016 at 9:21am
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con based tywa build probably.
  
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Reply #4 - Feb 1st, 2016 at 12:36pm
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I tried having a conversation on this in the forums, and it wasn't well received. Swashbuckle with the throwing ax mixed with deepwood sniper and throw your weight around. All level ups into con, twist over the throwing speed from Shiradi, and go dreadnaught, spending so you can get headsman's chop and masters blitz. Your final crit multiplier on 19 - 20 is x6. Sinking everything into con allows for the high hit points, etc. and gives you the option to switch to dual wielding dwarven axes for melee if you want to spend some into tempest.

edit: My bad I think it's x7 with a totaly range of 16-20.

Drawbacks noted in the discussion is mainly the lack of speed that star chucker's enjoy
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Reply #5 - Feb 1st, 2016 at 12:44pm
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i guess 1k cuts is giving 30 dshot and 30 ranged power?
  

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Reply #6 - Feb 1st, 2016 at 7:07pm
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There was a feature that used a involved combination of Dwarven fortress, 1k Cuts and some other moves to jack up to 200+ extra Melee and Ranged power on a toon for 12 seconds at a time going around but I'm pretty sure that was fixed with the patch.
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Reply #7 - Feb 2nd, 2016 at 3:49pm
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FoTW as well. Sub 20 second portal beat down, still running as of last night.
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Reply #8 - Feb 3rd, 2016 at 11:23am
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FoTW as well. Sub 20 second portal beat down, still running as of last night.


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Reply #10 - Feb 3rd, 2016 at 6:26pm
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Reply #11 - Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:06pm
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Reply #12 - Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:14pm
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Reply #13 - Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:35pm
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Reply #14 - Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:42pm
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Reply #16 - Feb 4th, 2016 at 1:28pm
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Reply #17 - Feb 4th, 2016 at 5:40pm
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Nubicus wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 12:36pm:
I tried having a conversation on this in the forums, and it wasn't well received. Swashbuckle with the throwing ax mixed with deepwood sniper and throw your weight around. All level ups into con, twist over the throwing speed from Shiradi, and go dreadnaught, spending so you can get headsman's chop and masters blitz. Your final crit multiplier on 19 - 20 is x6. Sinking everything into con allows for the high hit points, etc. and gives you the option to switch to dual wielding dwarven axes for melee if you want to spend some into tempest.

edit: My bad I think it's x7 with a totaly range of 16-20.

Drawbacks noted in the discussion is mainly the lack of speed that star chucker's enjoy


Speed and very terrible number of extra missile procs

At best you would be getting 1 + 70'ish Doubleshot = 1.7.

A well made chucker gets 1 + .74 + .74 + 60 (Assume Killer, though giving small net discount for not full stacks, with fullstacks now I get 69% before 10k). + 2.5%-60% from 10k (1-20 levels of Monk, half time). You realistically so thats 1.7 v ~3.5 missiles per throw.

SWB gives 17-20x3 (with IC), headmans gives 17-18x3, 19-20x4.

This compares to a crit profile on a Thrower of 19-20x2 with IC, with no option for Headmans Chop.

Devastating Critical and Overwhelming Critical, along with Sniper Shot are all available to both builds, so we can cancel them out for a basic calculation.

So then, lets say your Shuriken does 100 Base Damage:

Throwing Axe
.05*0+.1*300+.1*400+.75*100 = 145 (I know I know, seeker, proc damage, etc. It doesnt make THAT big of a diff). 145*1.7 = 246.5 Damage a throw.annimation

Shuriken
.05*0 +.1*200+.85*100 = 105 * 3.5 =  367.5 Damage a throw.animation

This doesn't even take into account that 50% of the time a Monk will have ~50 More Ranged Power than a bard due 10k adding Wisdom to RP. As you can see, crits are great, but more missiles is still better.

If I screwed the math or crit range calcs please correct, I haven't rolled a Bard to test in a while.

And finally, many throwing axes don't even work with IPS, you do the animation but the game does not actually calculate a missile. This includes TF axes, I don't know about LGS.
  
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Reply #18 - Feb 4th, 2016 at 6:00pm
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It has nothing to do with ranged damage. Your math isn't wrong, it is irrelevant. Smiley
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Reply #19 - Feb 4th, 2016 at 6:32pm
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It has nothing to do with ranged damage. Your math isn't wrong, it is irrelevant. Smiley


was just talking about why you should not make a dwarven thrower bersus a chucker, since that's what that guy was talking about, not about whatever exploit of the week is possible with 1k Cuts. It sounds like 1k cuts is giving it's bonuses to throwing weapons, which is fun, but it's bonuses aren't that much (30 Ranged Power isn't all that much).

I imagine theres more to this exploit than just that. if someone wants to PM me it that would be awesome, I'd like to try testing it with different builds, assuming it's a thrower thing
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Reply #20 - Feb 4th, 2016 at 6:38pm
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harharharhar wrote on Feb 4th, 2016 at 6:32pm:
was just talking about why you should not make a dwarven thrower bersus a chucker, since that's what that guy was talking about, not about whatever exploit of the week is possible with 1k Cuts. It sounds like 1k cuts is giving it's bonuses to throwing weapons, which is fun, but it's bonuses aren't that much (30 Ranged Power isn't all that much).

I imagine theres more to this exploit than just that. if someone wants to PM me it that would be awesome, I'd like to try testing it with different builds, assuming it's a thrower thing


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Reply #21 - Feb 5th, 2016 at 12:00am
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harharharhar wrote on Feb 4th, 2016 at 6:32pm:
I imagine theres more to this exploit than just that. if someone wants to PM me it that would be awesome,


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Reply #22 - Feb 5th, 2016 at 12:17am
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am curious shoot me a pm if ya don't mind
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Reply #23 - Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:09am
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Do not PM me.  Thank you.  I am too scared of the all powerful TURBINE to exploit.  I will stay in the corner and stroke my small penis.  Thank you again.
  
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