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Re: Advice for endgame LE build
Reply #25 - Feb 12th, 2016 at 11:41am
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For ranged, I'd do:

18 or 20 Rogue Mechanic (most damage but doesn't take hits as well)
15 Pally /5 rogue X-bow build (really good damage but can take a hit better)
20 Warlock in Fiend pact - Max Charisma, and Light Spellpower (really good damage and can take a hit)

For melee, I'd go with:
Tree build (Great damage, can take a hit)
Wolf Build (Great damage, doesn't take hits all that well)
20 Pally (Really good damage, can take a hit)
20 Ranger (Great Damage, can't take a hit very well)
18/20 Barb (Great damage, should be able to take a hit, but seem to die a lot)

Being a melee is tough in LE Shroud atm.  Even with 200+ PRR and 150+MRR.  You need to get HP in the 2000 range with some strong self healing (and/or a dedicated  healer who is paying attention) to stay upright for very long.  Getting there typically costs you some DPS. 
  
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Re: Advice for endgame LE build
Reply #26 - Feb 12th, 2016 at 12:00pm
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You need to get HP in the 2000 range with some strong self healing (and/or a dedicated  healer who is paying attention) to stay upright for very long.  Getting there typically costs you some DPS. 


For the Cat?
yes

for everything else?
have been seein 1500 tempests rape the trog, kobold, orc, etc

And you should be ranging cat from safe spot

imo
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Re: Advice for endgame LE build
Reply #27 - Feb 12th, 2016 at 12:04pm
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Asheras wrote on Feb 12th, 2016 at 11:41am:
15 Pally /5 rogue

you want the 14/6 split for assassin mark. Better than 14/5/1 or 15/5.
  
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Re: Advice for endgame LE build
Reply #28 - Feb 12th, 2016 at 12:24pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Feb 12th, 2016 at 12:04pm:
you want the 14/6 split for assassin mark. Better than 14/5/1 or 15/5.


Yes.  I can't find a 1 level better anything than what 6 Rogue gives with Assassin's Mark.
  
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Re: Advice for endgame LE build
Reply #29 - Feb 12th, 2016 at 2:23pm
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Asheras wrote on Feb 12th, 2016 at 11:41am:
For ranged, I'd do:

18 or 20 Rogue Mechanic (most damage but doesn't take hits as well)
15 Pally /5 rogue X-bow build (really good damage but can take a hit better)
20 Warlock in Fiend pact - Max Charisma, and Light Spellpower (really good damage and can take a hit)

For melee, I'd go with:
Tree build (Great damage, can take a hit)
Wolf Build (Great damage, doesn't take hits all that well)
20 Pally (Really good damage, can take a hit)
20 Ranger (Great Damage, can't take a hit very well)
18/20 Barb (Great damage, should be able to take a hit, but seem to die a lot)

Being a melee is tough in LE Shroud atm.  Even with 200+ PRR and 150+MRR.  You need to get HP in the 2000 range with some strong self healing (and/or a dedicated  healer who is paying attention) to stay upright for very long.  Getting there typically costs you some DPS. 


For ranged I would add:
Wiz or Warlock based Shiradis
20 or 18/x Ranger

For melee I would add:
Bard/Fighter/Rogue in some combo.  They still die in one hit like most melee in LE so use your crowd control options on Bard available.
  
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Re: Advice for endgame LE build
Reply #30 - Feb 13th, 2016 at 6:28pm
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Feb 12th, 2016 at 12:00pm:
For the Cat?
yes

for everything else?
have been seein 1500 tempests rape the trog, kobold, orc, etc

And you should be ranging cat from safe spot

imo


I have a tempest paladin with little over 1500 hp (buffed) and 70% damage reduction (over 200 prr), strength based khopesh build.

I have not yet ran a LE raid. I wonder if that is enough not to get massacred.
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Re: Advice for endgame LE build
Reply #31 - Feb 13th, 2016 at 7:40pm
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for pt2,

even post-nerf I've seen the cat kill a 3k full retard tank with its knockdown and a maul or 2

just stay away from the fucking cat, and if you get 2 bosses on you its better to kite around than attempt it imo

1500 will let you take a hit from an orthon to the face

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Re: Advice for endgame LE build
Reply #32 - Feb 13th, 2016 at 8:48pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 2:02pm:
60 from mok
10 from lock core
100 from arcane supremacy
25 night horrors item
20 wellspring

force crit chance 90%+. around 900 force before metas


I prefer the MOK mm build to warlock atm...but I'm not getting those kind of force numbers.

Force crit is in the 60s and force is in the 500 range before metas.

Is that a gear difference?  I'm using TF 22% impulse and insightful impulse on gloves.  That includes empyrean too.

Seems like a big gap.
  
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Re: Advice for endgame LE build
Reply #33 - Feb 13th, 2016 at 8:52pm
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Oh I see.

I don't normally include arcane supremacy or a few others in those numbers.

Guess we're pretty close after all.

Carry on.
  
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Re: Advice for endgame LE build
Reply #34 - Feb 13th, 2016 at 9:20pm
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rockz wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 8:52pm:
I don't normally include arcane supremacy or a few others in those numbers.

MoK stacked
Empyrean stacked
Scourge stacked
Arcane Triggered
Wellspring clicked
Spell power boost clicked
Tainted spellcasting clicked
Mabar clicked
Force potion
Commendation potion

60k greater ruin (could be much higher as I havent timed everything close to fully)


rockz wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 8:52pm:
I don't normally include arcane supremacy or a few others in those numbers.

It's what makes the build.

rockz wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 8:48pm:
Force crit is in the 60s and force is in the 500 range before metas

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Re: Advice for endgame LE build
Reply #35 - Feb 16th, 2016 at 9:40am
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Asheras wrote on Feb 12th, 2016 at 11:41am:
For ranged, I'd do:

18 or 20 Rogue Mechanic (most damage but doesn't take hits as well)
15 Pally /5 rogue X-bow build (really good damage but can take a hit better)
20 Warlock in Fiend pact - Max Charisma, and Light Spellpower (really good damage and can take a hit)

For melee, I'd go with:
Tree build (Great damage, can take a hit)
Wolf Build (Great damage, doesn't take hits all that well)
20 Pally (Really good damage, can take a hit)
20 Ranger (Great Damage, can't take a hit very well)
18/20 Barb (Great damage, should be able to take a hit, but seem to die a lot)

Being a melee is tough in LE Shroud atm.  Even with 200+ PRR and 150+MRR.  You need to get HP in the 2000 range with some strong self healing (and/or a dedicated  healer who is paying attention) to stay upright for very long.  Getting there typically costs you some DPS. 



I agree with this statement. From my game playstyle of course and based on my experience so far in the game.
  
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Re: Advice for endgame LE build
Reply #36 - Feb 16th, 2016 at 12:16pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 9:20pm:
MoK stacked
Empyrean stacked
Scourge stacked
Arcane Triggered
Wellspring clicked
Spell power boost clicked
Tainted spellcasting clicked
Mabar clicked
Force potion
Commendation potion

60k greater ruin (could be much higher as I havent timed everything close to fully)


It's what makes the build.

Piking on my ship idle numbers


this guy is right. om nom g ruin om nom timing wellspring with supremacy is teh secks, and ten pop spell power boost tainted spellcasting and g ruin ownage.
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Reply #37 - Feb 17th, 2016 at 9:02pm
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Sergod wrote on Feb 16th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
this guy is right. om nom g ruin om nom timing wellspring with supremacy is teh secks, and ten pop spell power boost tainted spellcasting and g ruin ownage.



English please.
  
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Re: Advice for endgame LE build
Reply #38 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 10:35am
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Re: Advice for endgame LE build
Reply #39 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 3:23am
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A con based human warlock playing with sword and shield with aura isn't it a good option for LE? In exalted angel destiny or shiradi?
  
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Re: Advice for endgame LE build
Reply #40 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 4:20am
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in LE quests a first life con-based human warlock performs fine. can pull weak groups through. can jump into pack of mobs and live.

works fine in many destinies including those two you mentioned, also divine crusader, US, draconic ...

in raids, the lack of CC / instakill option makes life harder
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Reply #41 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 4:26am
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crunch wrote on Feb 19th, 2016 at 4:20am:
in raids, the lack of CC / instakill option makes life harder

I get hit harder in LH shroud by trash than I do in LE curse/creeping
  
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Reply #42 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 8:50am
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Should anyone for sword and board warlock build take SWF feats or it is not necessary?
  
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Re: Advice for endgame LE build
Reply #43 - Feb 20th, 2016 at 6:58am
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Rubbinns wrote on Feb 19th, 2016 at 4:26am:
I get hit harder in LH shroud by trash than I do in LE curse/creeping

yes
Korvel wrote on Feb 19th, 2016 at 8:50am:
Should anyone for sword and board warlock build take SWF feats

no
  
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