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Pseudonym Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 340 Location: Under the metaphorical rock Joined: Nov 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Feb 18^th, 2016 at 8:29pm	Print Post
	Thread on the mobo: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/471975-Has-the-time-come-to-reconsider... My favorite part is this quote from Silverleafeon Quote: I later wrote a letter to Varg, expressing my opinion that I should have supported his original proposal more when it was first introduced. I didn't know that this guy supporting or not supporting stuff made such a big difference, I guess I've been living under a rock or something. Hooray for special snowflakes!


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Grand Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #1 - Feb 18^th, 2016 at 8:40pm	Print Post
	Pseudonym wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 8:29pm: My favorite part is this quote from Silverleafeon ~ Hooray for special snowflakes! Nailed it! That guy is so far up himself he sees double.


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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #2 - Feb 18^th, 2016 at 8:54pm	Print Post
	Would be sweet! I could finally play my 19 monk/1 wizard shiradi spammer. Wings and zoom zoom zoom ;o


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RemRemi Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #3 - Feb 18^th, 2016 at 10:56pm	Print Post
	Pseudonym wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 8:29pm: Hooray for special snowflakes! Well he was on the PC so..... he is a pretty big deal, all of us are, seriously some of us never fucking stopping telling each other we are, Cordoroid needs to set up a entire sub-forum for half of this PC to gloat in so it stops leaking out into the mains!�
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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #4 - Feb 18^th, 2016 at 11:54pm	Print Post
	AtomicMew wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 8:54pm: Would be sweet!� I could finally play my 19 monk/1 wizard shiradi spammer.� Wings and zoom zoom zoom ;o And that would be awesome, because it really would not be game breaking in any way.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Mr Reilly Stormreaver Piker Offline They're all gonna laugh at me. Posts: 673 Joined: Sep 22^nd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #5 - Feb 18^th, 2016 at 11:58pm	Print Post
	Apparently we've been going about this all the wrong way. Here we are all bitching about Turbine on DDOVault when we should have been getting this asshole to send varg letters. Maybe then the past 5 updates wouldn't have been shit. Remi, you ought to tell the PC they should pack up their bags and stop working so closely with the devs. This guy is obviously more important.

	- Zorro
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Sgtgig Waterworks Kobold Offline Posts: 172 Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #6 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:06am	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 11:54pm: And that would be awesome, because it really would not be game breaking in any way. Uurlick seems pretty convinced it would be. How the fuck did he get on PC? And what the fuck is the 19 monk for??


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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #7 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:34am	Print Post
	Sgtgig wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:06am: Uurlick seems pretty convinced it would be. How the fuck did he get on PC? And what the fuck is the 19 monk for?? Ask AtomicMew, it's his build.� But do you disagree that it would not be any more powerful a build than the current top dogs? Already in the main thread I've seen things like "This is very true and it would also be easy to max out chain missle with just 6 levels of wizard if 10 are auto granted." (slarden) Which is factually correct, but seems to imply that somehow this is a bad thing.� It would be easy to max out Chain Missile yes.� But again, who cares?� Shiradi caster is already a thing, and already does not require a pure Wizard build to max out caster level.� Abishai set, Arcane Augmentation, etc. exist right now and still Shiradi casters are not the king of the hill.� A change that makes it easier to build a Shiradi caster does not break the game.
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	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #8 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:41am	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:34am: and already does not require a pure Wizard build to max out caster level.� yep. the best thing that this change would even do for shiradi is allow you to build them without arcane gloves and abishai sets. whoop-dee-fucking-do. oh, noes, few gear slots swapped, cant deal!!111111!

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Sim-Sala-Bim Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Wha...? Posts: 5356 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #9 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 1:40am	Print Post
	Pseudonym wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 8:29pm: My favorite part is this quote from Silverleafeon Quote: I later wrote a letter to Varg, expressing my opinion that I should have supported his original proposal more when it was first introduced. I didn't know that this guy supporting or not supporting stuff made such a big difference, I guess I've been living under a rock or something. Hooray for special snowflakes! LMAO.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #10 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 3:21am	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:34am: (slarden) a retard Frank wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:34am: Ask AtomicMew, it's his build it is actually urlick's quote, atomic was just having some fun at the retards expense. The build would be the worst fucking spammer you could ever build. ever. eva, eva. No spell points, one spell, shit crit chance, no crit multiplier, no tier 5 archmage, no slas. This is who we have on the council, people. someone telling devs 19monk 1 wiz is broken....

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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string table error, tableDID Stormreaver Piker Offline ah......fresh meat Posts: 743 Location: Boredville Joined: Dec 9^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #11 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 3:49am	Print Post
	The caster level part of EDs was stupid from the start. Ranged and melee toons just pick the ED that fits them best, casters got screwed.

	You can't win the Vault, you can only make a fool of yourself and be added to my ignore script. Hi Welcome
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LordPiglet Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 660 Location: H-Town Joined: Jan 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #12 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 3:58am	Print Post
	RemRemi wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 10:56pm: Well he was on the PC so..... he is a pretty big deal, all of us are, seriously some of us never fucking stopping telling each other we are, Cordoroid needs to set up a entire sub-forum for half of this PC to gloat in so it stops leaking out into the mains!� The should name it after shoemaker [quote=Shoemaker]I guess that all that discussion by the PC on this issue contributed to a shift of position, and instead of saying how useless the PC is, you should be thanking them and acknowledging it's not a stunt. [/quote]


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #13 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 4:09am	Print Post
	omg, urfag actually thinks 7/7/6 would be op exploiter build. I cant even can right now.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #14 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 4:21am	Print Post
	oh, oh my. seems that someone has got urfag to post vault sock on mobos. is that even allowed, mockduck? Pretty sure my socks have been perma banned for sharing exploits when talking about the vault.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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fork Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 285 Joined: Jan 16^th, 2014	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #15 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 5:54am	Print Post
	How did you guys miss this gem: "am sure the Dev's are smart enough to do that."


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #16 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 6:05am	Print Post
	fork wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 5:54am: How did you guys miss this gem: "am sure the Dev's are smart enough to do that." whoever Kompera is, that guy just landed a superman overhand knockout punch. even after urfag backpedaled to his 7/7/6 build, does he really think that a caster with access to only 4th level spells would be better at dc casting than a pure 20? Or does he think that 7/7/6 is a better shiradi for some crazy, clueless, retarded reason? damn.. he erased his vault sock post.�
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	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #17 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 6:33am	Print Post


	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Sergod Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1110 Location: Richmond, VA Joined: Aug 18^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #18 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 10:15am	Print Post
	it would be sweet for 12warlock/6wiz/2fvs builds. you could actually max chain missile.
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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #19 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 10:38am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 3:21am: it is actually urlick's quote, atomic was just having some fun at the retards expense. Ah, I see. I missed the subtext.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #20 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 10:44am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 6:33am: http://i.imgur.com/OFYF5Cu.png http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/really-tell-me-more.gif O. M. G. That is hilarious. Tha's so funny i migh almost be worth reading the mobos, though I suspect such breaths of fresh air are few and far between.

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #21 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 10:59am	Print Post
	Sergod wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 10:15am: it would be sweet for 12warlock/6wiz/2fvs builds. you could actually max chain missile. yea, same for any of the 6 builds, but those builds are already getting cl 13, 3 more missiles arent going to break shiradis.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #22 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 11:40am	Print Post
	Everyone on the mobos thinks they are a fucking genius. They all have "suggestions". They all have an "idea!" They all have "suggestion for an idea!"


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Artorias Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1223 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2015	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #23 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:25pm	Print Post
	DoRayEgon wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 11:40am: Everyone on the mobos thinks they are a fucking genius. They all have "suggestions". They all have an "idea!" They all have "suggestion for an idea!" They all post in the suggestions sub forum without realizing none of those ideas ever got taken into consideration by devs�
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RolyPoly Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 56 Joined: Dec 15^th, 2011	Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies Reply #24 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:54pm	Print Post
	Out of lurker mode just long enough to say... Wow... it's amazing that rather than admit a lack of knowledge he doubles down on douche-baggery. I'm impressed. /re-lurk


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