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Apr 29th, 2016 at 2:04pm
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4x Aether Charge
4x Chartooth Cougar
2x Garruk Wildspeaker
1x Greater Gargadon
4x Krosan Warchief
4x Krosan Tusker
4x Pulse of the Tangle
4x Ravenous Baloth
4x Shivan Wumpus
4x Valley Rannet
4x Wirewood Savage

4x Cinder Glade
1x Contested Cliffs
7x Forest
5x Mountain
4x Wooded Foothills
  

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Reply #1 - Apr 30th, 2016 at 12:56pm
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Couple of interesting things going on with vanguard on lama right now. And tactics dcs.

momentum swing is proccing 3-6 hits on vanguard. mom swing is then proc'ing a shield bash and doublestrike.

lay waste will proc shiled bash.

shattering strike is doublestriking and shield bash procs giving up to 2-4 hits total.

dire charge procs shield bash. -does not doublestrike

stunning shield and stunning blow procs shield bash. - does not doublestrike

insightful combat mastery and stunning are stacking with combat mastery 14 on legendary animated rope(belt). But the belt is only giving +8 and not the listed 14.

Stun shield dc at 128 pictured. With only +12 stunning item(necro boots). 3 fighter lives + 15 stun item raises the dc to 134. Dire Charge is always 10 points lower.

If you wanted to go even higher dc then Knight Training and Charisma based with KtA and Surge easily gets the dcs to over 140 for stun shield 130 for dire charge.

I will test another set up with the AP where I drop some of the Vanguard abilities to pick up kensei tier 5 and kensei cap. Or kensei tier 5 and vanguard cap. Not sure yet what will be better dps. I wanted to keep the vanguard cap due to how frequent the shield bash proc is on almost every click type attack--not true for cleave/grt clv.

The version pictured has dismal red kobold beatdown time of 156 seconds.

I think madstone aegis is the better shield, and here is why. the haunted halls shield reads : on melee hit 20%. Madstone reads : on attack 20% that stacks. Might be that shield bash is coded as off hand doublestrike. Also might be that haunted halls shield is stacking multiplicatively while Aegis is additive.
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Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #2 - Apr 30th, 2016 at 1:28pm
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Why you gotta derail my crappy deck thread?  Tongue
  

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Reply #3 - Apr 30th, 2016 at 1:48pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Apr 30th, 2016 at 1:28pm:
Why you gotta derail my crappy deck thread?  Tongue


Because your crappy MTG posts belong in Other Games or Off Topic.  This is for DDO Builds.
  
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Reply #4 - Apr 30th, 2016 at 1:48pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Apr 30th, 2016 at 12:56pm:
Couple of interesting things going on with vanguard on lama right now. And tactics dcs.

momentum swing is proccing 3-6 hits on vanguard. mom swing is then proc'ing a shield bash and doublestrike.

lay waste will proc shiled bash.

shattering strike is doublestriking and shield bash procs giving up to 2-4 hits total.

dire charge procs shield bash. -does not doublestrike

stunning shield and stunning blow procs shield bash. - does not doublestrike

insightful combat mastery and stunning are stacking with combat mastery 14 on legendary animated rope(belt). But the belt is only giving +8 and not the listed 14.

Stun shield dc at 128 pictured. With only +12 stunning item(necro boots). 3 fighter lives + 15 stun item raises the dc to 134. Dire Charge is always 10 points lower.

If you wanted to go even higher dc then Knight Training and Charisma based with KtA and Surge easily gets the dcs to over 140 for stun shield 130 for dire charge.

I will test another set up with the AP where I drop some of the Vanguard abilities to pick up kensei tier 5 and kensei cap. Or kensei tier 5 and vanguard cap. Not sure yet what will be better dps. I wanted to keep the vanguard cap due to how frequent the shield bash proc is on almost every click type attack--not true for cleave/grt clv.

The version pictured has dismal red kobold beatdown time of 156 seconds.

I think madstone aegis is the better shield, and here is why. the haunted halls shield reads : on melee hit 20%. Madstone reads : on attack 20% that stacks. Might be that shield bash is coded as off hand doublestrike. Also might be that haunted halls shield is stacking multiplicatively while Aegis is additive.
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http://i.imgur.com/i4HbWxL.png


http://i.imgur.com/W5j3KUQ.jpg


Ouch.  That DPS is weak af.  Those DC's are off the charts, though.
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Reply #5 - Apr 30th, 2016 at 3:02pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Apr 30th, 2016 at 1:28pm:
Why you gotta derail my crappy deck thread?  Tongue

hahahaa. my bad bro

Asheras wrote on Apr 30th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
Ouch.  That DPS is weak af.  Those DC's are off the charts, though

Yeah. that is some shit dps right there. I dont think it is a good solo build. clearly it crushes trash, 2 aoe stuns, stun blow, random 5% stun proc on any shield bash, 80% shield bash chance on any attack. Should be no fail in any content they make.

  

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Reply #6 - May 4th, 2016 at 11:19am
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Asheras wrote on Apr 30th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
Because your crappy MTG posts belong in Other Games or Off Topic.  This is for DDO Builds.


Funny, it just says "Builds" on my screen.
  

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Reply #7 - May 4th, 2016 at 3:59pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on May 4th, 2016 at 11:19am:
Funny, it just says "Builds" on my screen.


Exactly.  It doesn't say "MTG Decks"  It says "Builds".

  
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Reply #8 - May 4th, 2016 at 4:50pm
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Asheras wrote on May 4th, 2016 at 3:59pm:
Exactly.  It doesn't say "MTG Decks"  It says "Builds".



All of my MTG posts are obviously deck builds.  Huh
  

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Reply #9 - May 4th, 2016 at 6:59pm
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Reply #10 - May 4th, 2016 at 9:25pm
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