Which weapon has more Dps crit and damge in LD destiny for tempest ranger str build a khopesh or heavy pick or scimtiar

Crit Profiles for weapons:

Khopesh (1d8) - 16-18 x4; 19-20 x6

Heavy Pick (1d6) - 18 x5; 19-20 x7

Scimitar (1d6) - 14-18 x3; 19-20 x5

Assume crit damage before crit multiplier is equal to base damage (essentially ignore seeker effects) {a is base damage}:
(0*(1) + (a)*(14) + (a)*(4)*(3) + (a)*(6)*(2))/20 = ((14)a+(12)a+(12)a)/20 = (38/20)a = 1.9a {khopesh}

(0*(1) + (a)*(16) + (a)*(5)*(1) + (a)*(7)*(2))/20 = ((16)a+(5)a+(14)a)/20 = (35/20)a = 1.75a {heavy pick}

(0*(1) + (a)*(12) + (a)*(3)*(5) + (a)*(5)*(2))/20 = ((12)a+(15)a+(10)a)/20 = (37/20)a = 1.85a {scimitar}

Assume crit damage before crit multiplier is 10/7 of base damage (from seeker effects) {a is base damage}:
(0*(1) + (a)*(14) + (a*10/7)*(4)*(3) + (a*10/7)*(6)*(2))/20 = ((98/7)a+(120/7)a+(120/7)a)/20 = (338/140)a = 2.41a {khopesh}

(0*(1) + (a)*(16) + (a*10/7)*(5)*(1) + (a*10/7)*(7)*(2))/20 = ((112/7)a+(50/7)a+(140/7)a)/20 = (302/140)a = 2.15a {heavy pick}

(0*(1) + (a)*(12) + (a*10/7)*(3)*(5) + (a*10/7)*(5)*(2))/20 = ((84/7)a+(150/7)a+(100/7)a)/20 = (334/140)a = 2.38a {scimitar}

Assume crit damage before crit multiplier is 4x of base damage (from seeker effects) {a is base damage}:
(0*(1) + (a)*(14) + (4a)*(4)*(3) + (4a)*(6)*(2))/20 = ((14)a+(48)a+(48)a)/20 = (110/20)a = 5.5a {khopesh}

(0*(1) + (a)*(16) + (4a)*(5)*(1) + (4a)*(7)*(2))/20 = ((16)a+(20)a+(56)a)/20 = (92/20)a = 4.6a {heavy pick}

(0*(1) + (a)*(12) + (4a)*(3)*(5) + (4a)*(5)*(2))/20 = ((12)a+(60)a+(40)a)/20 = (112/20)a = 5.6a {scimitar}


Ratio of crit profile multipliers:
Scenario A (w/o seeker)
Khopesh/hpick: 1.9/1.75 = 1.0857

Khopesh/Scimitar: 1.9/1.85 = 1.0270

Scenario B (w/ seeker)
Khopesh/hpick: 2.41/2.15 = 1.1209

Khopesh/Scimitar: 2.41/2.38 = 1.0126

Scenario C (w/ insane seeker)
Khopesh/hpick: 5.5/4.6 = 1.1957

Khopesh/Scimitar: 5.5/5.6 = 0.9821

Conclusion:
Khopesh wins in Scenarios A and B - no seeker, and rough estimate for current seeker values. Scimitar wins in scenario C (seeker values roughly 7 times what we are at now). Heavy pick loses in all scenarios; it does better with lower values of seeker. The khopesh is certainly favored in our endgame right now, which sits at roughly scenario B; in fact, it is favored more than these calculations show due to grazing hits (scimitar gets a larger damage contribution from lower die rolls) - as well as the +5 damage on khopesh hits from base damage increase. Still this just goes to show you that scimitar isn't as far behind as many would lead you to believe.

5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 29^th, 2016 at 11:56am:


Your table is based on scenario A in my calculations (no additional damage from seeker). However, that's not exactly true - see difference between A to B to C (scimitar becomes favored if you have enough seeker).

I only included calcs for ranger/pally in blitz.

Sergod wrote on Jun 29^th, 2016 at 1:07pm:


Don't know if that's directed at me or not. However, I did mention that +5 base damage pulls khopesh ahead. I'm not only looking at crit profile. The following is true:

The more [w] die you have the more khopesh is favored. The more seeker you have the more scimitar is favored. Overall khopesh is better than scimitar with the current parameters. However, it isn't THAT far ahead. Dps tests will indicate as much.

elf using scimitar is best.