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Reply #75 - Jul 21st, 2016 at 5:19pm
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Reply #76 - Jul 21st, 2016 at 6:33pm
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You are describing every episode of Jersey Shore.  That's not living everyone's dream vacation.  That's a real life lower middle class unemployed loser.

One does have to wonder what it says about those who know what it's like to watch every episode of Jersey Shore....


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Reply #77 - Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:39am
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karavek wrote on Jul 21st, 2016 at 1:11pm:
I've not bothered actually playing g D3 so not sure how they do seasons but over on path of exile its a rather brilliant mechanic that fosters an active pve competition and player economy. The hardcore seasons especially appeal to those who love to play xp per minute while pushing their ability to tackle content as quickly as possible to gain recognition and win cool in game prizes. Usually unique skinned versions of standard named items.

Personally I recommend POE to any arpg fan as worth trying out. I dropped about 40$ on it over six months of active play a year or so back and while I've not had the itch again yet I keep tabs on it like I do DDO. Its grown in content classes personal bases a NPC mentor system complete with quests for them all as part of its ftp modelmodel
Nothing g at all essential to playing or enjoying g the game is locked behind the pay in option s which are almost all cosmetic related.

I agree, they really do make a well thought out and high quality game there, and the P2W is negligible.

As a consequence, I've dropped a couple of hundred over the last 2 years (Except for in-app mobile purchases, I buy for my whole family) and practically nothing in DDO. If Grinding Gear Games put out a FRPMMO with the same approach, I'd never log into DDO again.

My only problem with PoE is it's too dark for family play. I'd like to see some mechanics changes (like camera angle and movement keys) but overall it's a fantastic game and shows that you don't have to be a money grubbing soulless megastudio to succeed in the industry.
  

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Reply #78 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 3:40am
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Reply #79 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:56am
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Meursault wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:39am:
I agree, they really do make a well thought out and high quality game there, and the P2W is negligible.

As a consequence, I've dropped a couple of hundred over the last 2 years (Except for in-app mobile purchases, I buy for my whole family) and practically nothing in DDO. If Grinding Gear Games put out a FRPMMO with the same approach, I'd never log into DDO again.

My only problem with PoE is it's too dark for family play. I'd like to see some mechanics changes (like camera angle and movement keys) but overall it's a fantastic game and shows that you don't have to be a money grubbing soulless megastudio to succeed in the industry.


Not to be a bother but what about PoE do you find too dark for family play?  I can't think of a thing in that game that seems to mature really. Any child six plus should be familiar with stories like treasure island and the count of Monte cristo. And films like the last unicorn or a flight of dragons

Ten plus they should be watching the original RoboCop so they don't grow up thinking that new one is what people refer to. As long as the child understands what acting and make believe are which they bloody well should by ten. Otherwise the world is going to eat them up and not even have gristle to spit out.
  
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Reply #80 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 11:18am
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karavek wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:56am:
Not to be a bother but what about PoE do you find too dark for family play?  I can't think of a thing in that game that seems to mature really. Any child six plus should be familiar with stories like treasure island and the count of Monte cristo. And films like the last unicorn or a flight of dragons

Ten plus they should be watching the original RoboCop so they don't grow up thinking that new one is what people refer to. As long as the child understands what acting and make believe are which they bloody well should by ten. Otherwise the world is going to eat them up and not even have gristle to spit out.


Sounds like someone who doesn't have kids, honestly.  Robocop is R Rated.  I don't agree with kids watching R rated movies at age 10.  That's 4th grade. 

I'm also not sure toughness comes from desensitizing them to violence at age 10, but whatever. 

Count of Monte Cristo is rated as a 16+ age book by most school book rating systems.  It is high school content.  6 year olds being familiar with it is a joke.  There's not even much film history for it.  Nothing a 6 year old would be interested in watching.  Maybe the Three Musketeers, if you are going by Dumas work, but even that carries a 12+ book rating.  At least there are a few recent movie adaptations that have humor and action, with little real violence/gore.
  
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Reply #81 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 2:26pm
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Asheras wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 11:18am:
Sounds like someone who doesn't have kids, honestly.  Robocop is R Rated.  I don't agree with kids watching R rated movies at age 10.  That's 4th grade. 

I'm also not sure toughness comes from desensitizing them to violence at age 10, but whatever. 

Count of Monte Cristo is rated as a 16+ age book by most school book rating systems.  It is high school content.  6 year olds being familiar with it is a joke.  There's not even much film history for it.  Nothing a 6 year old would be interested in watching.  Maybe the Three Musketeers, if you are going by Dumas work, but even that carries a 12+ book rating.  At least there are a few recent movie adaptations that have humor and action, with little real violence/gore.


So I should be telling those 7 year old kids working in slave labor camps making your clothes to go home and be a kid. They will probably tell me to leave them be because they are making a "living" providing for there families.
And yes, this same thing happens in "civilized" countries also, where sometimes kids have to be the grown-ups because of whatever situation was forced upon them.
  
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Reply #82 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 3:49pm
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mudfud wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 2:26pm:
So I should be telling those 7 year old kids working in slave labor camps making your clothes to go home and be a kid. They will probably tell me to leave them be because they are making a "living" providing for there families.
And yes, this same thing happens in "civilized" countries also, where sometimes kids have to be the grown-ups because of whatever situation was forced upon them.


You're talking like that's a good thing.
  
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Reply #83 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:21pm
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Asheras wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 11:18am:
Sounds like someone who doesn't have kids, honestly.  Robocop is R Rated.  I don't agree with kids watching R rated movies at age 10.  That's 4th grade. 

I'm also not sure toughness comes from desensitizing them to violence at age 10, but whatever. 

Count of Monte Cristo is rated as a 16+ age book by most school book rating systems.  It is high school content.  6 year olds being familiar with it is a joke.  There's not even much film history for it.  Nothing a 6 year old would be interested in watching.  Maybe the Three Musketeers, if you are going by Dumas work, but even that carries a 12+ book rating.  At least there are a few recent movie adaptations that have humor and action, with little real violence/gore.


Wow!

So I shouldnt have been reading those Don Pendleton and VC Andrews books when I was 10 years old?
  

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Reply #84 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:59pm
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karavek wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:56am:
Not to be a bother but what about PoE do you find too dark for family play?  I can't think of a thing in that game that seems to mature really. Any child six plus should be familiar with stories like treasure island and the count of Monte cristo. And films like the last unicorn or a flight of dragons

Ten plus they should be watching the original RoboCop so they don't grow up thinking that new one is what people refer to. As long as the child understands what acting and make believe are which they bloody well should by ten. Otherwise the world is going to eat them up and not even have gristle to spit out.

It was mostly OK until the second half of book 3, where you started encountering heaps of starved and experimented on bodies. The women with tentacle arms with the bloody sutures where they attached were particularly disturbing.

There is a big difference between reading about stacks of starved bodies and experimenting on people, and seeing a well rendered graphical display of them. We've had family discussions about some pretty tough subjects - Charlie Hebdo, the Holocaust, even the Newtown shootings. They're tough on kids. Kids want to know about them, because they can't escape hearing about them, and the unknown but hinted at horror is even worse than hearing about them in the calm voice of a trusted adult. But seeing them in full Technicolor leads to nightmares.

I haven't ruled out PoE, I have family accounts for everyone and I've purchased storage and cosmetics for everyone,  and we all have multiple characters. But when I say "Hey, we're done with homework and supper, what do you want to do for the next hour?" PoE isn't chosen. It's picked sometimes on a Saturday morning with a full day of sunshine ahead, but mostly PoE is when I'm gaming with a guildmate at night or staying home when the rest of the family is at my sister in-law's house (my wife learned long ago that it's just easier if I stay home).

Personally, I love PoE, but I like gaming with my family more, so games like Neverwinter and DDO win out. Or Pokemon Go. These days, we've been on so many family walks in the last week that my feet have blisters. I hope my family grows into PoE, but for now it's too dark.
  

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Reply #85 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 7:16pm
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mudfud wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 2:26pm:
So I should be telling those 7 year old kids working in slave labor camps making your clothes to go home and be a kid. They will probably tell me to leave them be because they are making a "living" providing for there families.
And yes, this same thing happens in "civilized" countries also, where sometimes kids have to be the grown-ups because of whatever situation was forced upon them.


I'm pretty sure 7 year olds in 3rd world countries aren't watching RoboCop on Pay per view or NetFlix. 

I think the 1st world issues I'm describing are an entirely different set of circumstances.  And, sure, there are kids that are victims of tragedy, abuse, etc at young ages.  None of those straw man arguments are relevant to the situation we are discussing here.
  
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Barkabout wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:21pm:
Wow!

So I shouldnt have been reading those Don Pendleton and VC Andrews books when I was 10 years old?


Don't know who Don Pendleton is, but did your sister give you Flowers in the Attic to read?

  
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Frank wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 3:40am:
And about as useful as a bracelet of friendship.

But that bracelet of friendship is magic!
  

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Asheras wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 7:18pm:
Don't know who Don Pendleton is, but did your sister give you Flowers in the Attic to read?



Don Pendleton's mack bolan the executioner is pretty much the original punisher.
I started reading him around ten myself.
His back story is while he is over in veitnam his family falls on hard times. His father gets layed off ends up indebted to the local gangsters his sister ends up forced into prostitution and when the father finds out he mentally breaks down and kills himself and his whole family. Mack little brother barely survived to tell mack the story.

Mack comes home on emergency leave and hearing decides the real enemy is organized crime. He becomes known as the executioner. The books are brutally accurate about things like human trafficking and torture tactics.

And considering g gang rapes involving tween boys raping girls as young as five occur in the u.s.a I don't think kids should be left ignorant and thus helpless to such potential things.
  
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Asheras wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 7:18pm:
did your sister give you Flowers in the Attic to read?



  

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Asheras wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 7:16pm:
I'm pretty sure 7 year olds in 3rd world countries aren't watching RoboCop on Pay per view or NetFlix. 

I think the 1st world issues I'm describing are an entirely different set of circumstances.  And, sure, there are kids that are victims of tragedy, abuse, etc at young ages.  None of those straw man arguments are relevant to the situation we are discussing here.


Sure it is.
You can only speak for what you yourself would do with your kids. Because you only know the situation you put your kids into. You don't know others situations so shouldn't judge them as you did.
  
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Wreck-It Ralph gave my kid nightmares.
  

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mudfud wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 12:55am:
Sure it is.
You can only speak for what you yourself would do with your kids. Because you only know the situation you put your kids into. You don't know others situations so shouldn't judge them as you did.


Show me where I judged anyone.  I said "I don't agree with kids watching R rated movies at age 10".  That's not me judging.  That's me stating my opinion.  Judging would be "It is wrong to raise kids like that" or "You should be ashamed of yourself". 

I also said "I don't know that toughness comes from desensitizing kids to violence at age 10, but whatever".  Hardly a judgy comment.  Nor am I speaking for anyone but myself.

Lighten up, Francis.  I'll raise my kids the way I want and you can raise yours the way you want.  I'm totally fine with that. 

  
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Reply #94 - Jul 24th, 2016 at 8:05pm
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Judge me.

I believe that late 2017 is around 18 months away.

Severlin is working on DDO, and LoTRO.  He used to work on Asheron's Call until that went into maintenance mode, then he was switched over to DDO.  Now, he is switched over to LoTRO.  History repeating?

Which game makes the most money for Turbine?  Asheron's Call?  DDO?  Infinite Crisis?  LoTRO?  ( I threw a softball one in there)

The talented programmers went to the Mobile game for Warner Bros.  That means the shit was left behind.

I doubt there will be an expansion by December 2017.  Maintenance mode by January 1, 2018, I can see.

Warner Bros will do something before then about the lack of return on investment they are getting out of Turbine.

Turbine has over-promised and under-delivered once with IC.

Current openings
Animator for Mobile Gaming
Senior Android Engineer
Senior Mobile Engineer
Senior Mobile Game Platform Engineer

Interesting that there are three SENIOR openings.  Either the current staff quit or was laid off.  Or else, there is zero confidence in the talent level at Turbine.  I would think I would want a current employee as senior.
  
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notajedi wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 8:05pm:
Severlin is working on DDO

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notajedi wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 8:05pm:
Interesting that there are three SENIOR openings.  Either the current staff quit or was laid off.  Or else, there is zero confidence in the talent level at Turbine.  I would think I would want a current employee as senior.

I'd want to promote from within too, but then, I value my employees and take the time to mentor them, get them training, and try hard to keep them. This is yet more proof that Turdbin has a high turnover and low morale. When your team is demoralized and unstable, promoting from within can cause hard feelings because there is no clear candidate.

Too bad WB won't just bite the bullet and clear out the incompetent management at Turdbin, it would sting a bit short term, but in the long run it would pay handsome returns.
  

Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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Reply #97 - Jul 24th, 2016 at 8:31pm
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notajedi wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 8:05pm:
The talented programmers went to the Mobile game for Warner Bros.  That means the shit was left behind.



I agree with the general points in your post, but my view on the above statement is that you might be wrong.

Coding/developing for a ten year old MMO is going to be a different skill set than mobile gaming, unless they have done some training to update their skills.

The guys left behind might not be "shit", they just might not be suited.

Ofc, this doesn't preclude them being shit though as something at Turbine certainly is working very well.
  
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Reply #98 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 12:41am
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Meursault wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:59pm:
[...] or staying home when the rest of the family is at my sister in-law's house (my wife learned long ago that it's just easier if I stay home).


Ok, sorry in advance...

This reads as though you're either arguing with (probably) or fucking (thus the apology) the sister in-law.   Cheesy Grin Wink Tongue
  

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I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive.


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I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect.


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