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iGouger Ex Member	Epic Raiyum Optional EXP Ransack Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 1:58pm	Print Post
	I've actually been wondering this for a long time, and I figured I'd post my thoughts here since there's fuckall on the motherboards about it. As many others are wont to do, I often run Chamber of Raiyum EN twice a day for the exp while going through my Epic Reincarnation grinds. Of course, because of the way that ransack works, I tend to wait at least 18 hours before beginning the next day's runs. The quest base exp itself seems to reset, but for whatever strange, stupid, turbine reason, the optionals don't. I always do every optional, but usually, the exp yield works out to something like this by the next day: Base exp is fine Hami is -60% Hafez is -80% Akvan and Mehrdad the genies are at -40% Treasure chamber is at -100% Eternal guardians are at -60% or something It makes absolutely no sense. I also run VoN3 and Spies every day twice, and those optionals always reset by the next day. So what gives with Raiyum? Did the devs somehow fuck up this one quest? Is the optional ransack timer just broken for this one quest? Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can explain to me what's going on because even by Turbine standards, this one's pretty baffling, and I'm genuinely curious about it.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Epic Raiyum Optional EXP Ransack Reply #1 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 2:12pm	Print Post
	If you run a quest twice (or more) in one day and you get a first time bonus on one (or more) of those runs, then some of the optionals that you completed will be permanently degraded until you reincarnate. If that is too hard to parse, just run each quest only once each day.

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mudfud Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1123 Joined: Nov 17^th, 2011	Re: Epic Raiyum Optional EXP Ransack Reply #2 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 2:34pm	Print Post
	ahh the crucuble optional ruined it for everybody routine


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iGouger Ex Member	Re: Epic Raiyum Optional EXP Ransack Reply #3 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 3:04pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 2:12pm: If you run a quest twice (or more) in one day and you get a first time bonus on one (or more) of those runs, then some of the optionals that you completed will be permanently degraded until you reincarnate. If that is too hard to parse, just run each quest only once each day. That's not true though; I run spies AND VoN3 twice a day, and yet those opts ALWAYS refresh to -0% by the next day.


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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Epic Raiyum Optional EXP Ransack Reply #4 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 3:14pm	Print Post
	Quote: That's not true though; I run spies AND VoN3 twice a day, and yet those opts ALWAYS refresh to -0% by the next day. I'm your huckleberry. The problem is its bugged. If you complete the quest and THEN finish one of more of the optionals, you get double ransack on the given optional(s). EDIT: regarding the Rayium quest. Not sure if other quests have that glitch too. I am surprised its not a well known issue.
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	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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iGouger Ex Member	Re: Epic Raiyum Optional EXP Ransack Reply #5 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 3:23pm	Print Post
	Ah, THAT explanation explains a lot. Thanks. It could very well be a well known issue, but I'm admittedly kind of oblivious to some things, and a lot of the time, when I ask people about it in game, all I get are blank stares and no responses.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Epic Raiyum Optional EXP Ransack Reply #6 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 3:33pm	Print Post
	Quote: That's not true though; I run spies AND VoN3 twice a day, and yet those opts ALWAYS refresh to -0% by the next day. It is erratic. I can't explain why they don't always go down, but I assure you that if you only run each quest once per day then the penalty will never show as more than -20%. m4lacka wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 3:14pm: If you complete the quest and THEN finish one of more of the optionals, you get double ransack on the given optional(s). No. See above. You still want to get the opts before completion though, because it is more xp that way. I'm guessing for some reason the modifiers apply differently if you complete first.

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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Epic Raiyum Optional EXP Ransack Reply #7 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 4:08pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 3:33pm: It is erratic. I can't explain why they don't always go down, but I assure you that if you only run each quest once per day then the penalty will never show as more than -20%. No. See above. You still want to get the opts before completion though, because it is more xp that way. I'm guessing for some reason the modifiers apply differently if you complete first. Do not get me wrong, but I have run that shit over 10000 times, so I am pretty sure I know what I am saying. Yes, I have seen von opt xp penatly remain too, that is a different story. But maybe you just misunderstood what I wrote.

	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Epic Raiyum Optional EXP Ransack Reply #8 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 4:16pm	Print Post
	5foot just throws whoever he is arguing with under the bus when he's caught not knowing what the hell he's talking about


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Epic Raiyum Optional EXP Ransack Reply #9 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 4:32pm	Print Post


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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Epic Raiyum Optional EXP Ransack Reply #10 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 9:09pm	Print Post
	Rayium and Von3 optionals are fucked xp for me, too, even with months between runs.

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LurkYouRongTime Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 58 Joined: Jun 4^th, 2016	Re: Epic Raiyum Optional EXP Ransack Reply #11 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 9:47pm	Print Post
	m4lacka wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 3:14pm: I'm your huckleberry. The problem is its bugged. If you complete the quest and THEN finish one of more of the optionals, you get double ransack on the given optional(s). EDIT: regarding the Rayium quest. Not sure if other quests have that glitch too. I am surprised its not a well known issue. Yes, it does have that glitch, I always ask people to not finish before all opts done for that reason... Now only if they listened.


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