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Sep 20th, 2016 at 9:58pm
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I have posted a thread about the known issues on the DDO forums about the bugs in the game v.s. blind new content. This is a link to it, but much of it is below here as well.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/478984-fixthebugs1st


So, just read the producer's letter and it was filled some great ideas and plans.

What it didn't address was fixing the existing bugs, and prioritizing the known issues list items; many of which are not only over 3 years old and hurt the play experience for thousands of players but also includes very old bugs that in some cases are being used to ill intent by some players.

Severlin told us all last year and the beginning of this year that they intended to 'bug smash' this year, but still nothing has been done except a attempt the hide the known issues list away from easy review by delinking it from the release notes.

Now before anyone jumps on my back and yells at me and scolds me for daring to question Severlin or the team about something as 'silly' as bug and the known issues allow me to remind you of all the scolding and insults that was thrown at the people concerned about lag last year and the beginning of this year.... will it take a huge bug meltdown similar to the anniversary lag farce to get you to back off?

Hmmm?

So the best way to make our concerns clear and how they relate to so much without insulting the Devs? #fixthebugs1st

I'm posting here on the DDOVault as well as the DDO forums because I'm hoping fed up players will finally spread the word to a level that Turbine will take the issue seriously enough to at least make a effort to get on top of it.

Please spread the word and the hashtag, its a way to covey a postion without insulting or risking a infraction (not sure if you have them here or not).

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Reply #1 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:13pm
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Unfortunately, from Turbine's PoV, bug fixes don't make money, at least not in the short run.

Things like new classes, races, and content do.
  

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Reply #2 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:13pm
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Please spread the word and the hashtag, its a way to covey a postion without insulting or risking a infraction (not sure if you have them here or not).

Of course we have infractions here, we collect them, but we don't give them out  Grin

Looks like a good thread, but make sure you keep your cool, you'll attract the forum palitrolls in no time flat. They'll try to goad you into a misstep so they can infract you.

I'll hop on tomorrow if it hasn't been cubed, I don't want to be too hasty and give away my secret identity   Cool
  

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Reply #3 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:28pm
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Thanks, but just to be clear I'm not here to get people to post on the DDO forums. I was hoping that my message might resonate with some posters here and hopefully they would post the hashtag here and other 3rd party sites and spread the word.

By using the #fixthebugs1st people can clearly and concisely express the concern and end of patience with the known issues in a way that is so succinct that people can use it without getting into large 'walls of texts' back and forths designed to derail and confuse the message but also not be offensive or personally insulting to anyone on either side.

As to the people coming after me, at least I can assume their hearts are in the right place even if they act kind of silly in execution. And I was pretty impressed the Cordovan posted on the thread even if I wasn't thrilled with his response.
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Reply #4 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 11:16pm
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Zebedar is an old grumpy jackass and a troll. 

I agree 100% that bugs and known issues need focus and resolution.  But that guy is a total ass.  I have no idea how he still has an account on the forums.
  
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Reply #5 - Sep 21st, 2016 at 12:54am
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Technomage wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:13pm:
Unfortunately, from [any business]'s PoV, bug fixes don't make money, at least not in the short run.

FTFY.

Also, from a developer's perspective, bugs are fucking boring.  So the only people would could fix them don't want to, and aren't being told to by the only people who could.
  

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Reply #6 - Sep 21st, 2016 at 12:55am
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Reply #8 - Sep 21st, 2016 at 1:11am
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the known issues


I think that your problem here is the above term, and Turbine's way to use it.

For  everybody : a Known Issue is a bug people are aware of
For Turbine : a Known Issue is a bug ( or not ) that ( supposedly ) has received enough report ( and details ) to be ( eventually ) fixed ( one day ).

If you really want a full bug list for DDO you'll have to rumage here in the old pages ( don't use the site search function it sucks. use google ),
eventually in the old threads in the mobo ( there's been a few of us that tried to get an unofficial official list of bugs on the mobo ) but do not use Turbine's list.
  

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Reply #9 - Sep 21st, 2016 at 5:32am
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Asheras wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 11:16pm:
Zebedar is an old grumpy jackass and a troll. 

I agree 100% that bugs and known issues need focus and resolution.  But that guy is a total ass.  I have no idea how he still has an account on the forums.


Agreed:) And now he must be totally desperate to come with this to Vault:p
  
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Reply #10 - Sep 21st, 2016 at 6:24am
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The last few patches have had more bug fixes than in the past. I quite liked it
  
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Reply #11 - Sep 21st, 2016 at 8:41am
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Ooohhh....hashtag activism.  I hear its the hip thing to do with all the kids.  Totally works. 

Maybe it will start trending on tweeter and the NY Times will run the story forcing Warner Bros to make Turbine fix all bugs.  Lemme go check....

Uhm looks like four results solely from your posts.  Oh well, totally sure it will catch on in time.  Hopefully it wont devolve into a campaign to get mosquitoes spayed or neutered to prevent Zika.  That'd be a terrible misunderstanding.
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Reply #12 - Sep 21st, 2016 at 9:32am
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Asheras wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 11:16pm:
Zebedar is an old grumpy jackass and a troll. 


Yuuuuup.  But it could be worse, he could be a cordo-cock gobbling toady shill like yourself.

Asheras wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 11:16pm:
and a troll. 


He certainly handed you and Cordovan your asses in the start of that thread. As for him being a troll?  wishful thinking bitch, he is just thinks differently than you on the subject and tends to wear his heart of his lam-love-the-game loser sleeve. I have little doubt you two would enjoy giving each other handies while cooing to each other how 'good' the game really can be and how nasty people just don't get it, if you could just get your fanboi egos out of the way. Your true love awaits Asshers, you deserved each other. 

Asheras wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 11:16pm:
  I have no idea how he still has an account on the forums.


Simple. For as big of a dramaqueen as he is, Zeb doesn't seem to fall for the troll traps and attacks you and your Pallybois throw at him, and doesn't break the rules. TLDR? he is smarter than you, cause obviously he isn't going to get cover from Jerry on his current crusade while you and your ilk have the "jerry pass!" when posting.

Cry us a river Asshat.


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Reply #13 - Sep 21st, 2016 at 9:38am
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Fuck off back to the mobos you whiny old bitch. FYI the known issues and some of those old 'bugs' are actually handy shit that many of us enjoy 'using' from time to time, so learn your fucking audience before prancing in and posting next time fuckwit.

Move along.
  
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Reply #14 - Sep 21st, 2016 at 11:16am
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lol, u should see his brownnosing in his thrower thread:p

so much for not being cordocock
  
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Reply #16 - Sep 21st, 2016 at 12:38pm
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Bugs are fun though. They allow you to play any class in the game at whatever power level you want.

Why wait years for a class revamp when you can learn bugs in hours and make a build you like instead?
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Mousewheel zoom broke for me yesterday.   Grin
  

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Reply #18 - Sep 21st, 2016 at 7:04pm
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Grand wrote on Sep 21st, 2016 at 9:32am:
Cry us a river of Asshats.

Now that would be something to see. Might even make the list of Wonders of the Internet World.
  

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Reply #20 - Sep 21st, 2016 at 11:04pm
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Gringo wrote on Sep 21st, 2016 at 11:16am:
lol, u should see his brownnosing in his thrower thread:p

so much for not being cordocock


What thrower thread?
  
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Reply #21 - Sep 22nd, 2016 at 2:03pm
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Bug lives matter?
  

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Reply #22 - Sep 22nd, 2016 at 4:00pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Sep 22nd, 2016 at 2:03pm:
Bug lives matter?

Yeah, at Turbine most bugs last longer than producers  Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #23 - Sep 22nd, 2016 at 7:04pm
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New rangen ranged weapons appear to have been fixed.

I just did 4d6 good damage with a repeater that claims to do 4d6 good damage. Additionally, it now states that it breaks good dr.

Was going to go test that, but have to clean up instead. I ... may have pissed myself in surprise.
  

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Reply #24 - Sep 22nd, 2016 at 10:15pm
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Revaulting wrote on Sep 22nd, 2016 at 7:04pm:
New rangen ranged weapons appear to have been fixed.

I just did 4d6 good damage with a repeater that claims to do 4d6 good damage. Additionally, it now states that it breaks good dr.

Was going to go test that, but have to clean up instead. I ... may have pissed myself in surprise.

Holy shit, they got it right? Stop the presses, this is big news!

Was it an existing one or are only new drops working and old ones are indistinguishably bugged?
  

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