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Re: U33 Maul Pally
Reply #75 - Oct 28th, 2017 at 3:09am
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i will do TR tomorrow. my goal is farm somes life of pdk(2life)


are bluids feasible? or ... Is it very squishy?
or something better with plate?

i did two bluids: 8F/6P/6M and 8F/6C/6M(6C > 6 Fav! Hail Domain Cheesy)

I loved 8F / 6C / 6M! I believe it is better than 8F / 6P / 6M but I want your opinions before performing the TR.
Because I would get more use for my reflex saves and less squishy... but still squishy?

note:
-Cleave is optional. if need release Lay and MS III
-12 DEX for feat lvl 6 of monk
-I can exchange 2xWF for Mobility and SA but +4MA>4%Dodge
-i have full divine life and 1pdk (27 prr +3prr)


8F/6P/6M

ºI do not know if Jade is a good option because i will lose dps try get it.
ºSlayer of Evil II help alot for kill reapers xD
ºExalted Cleave I(not need Quick Draw when u have it) synergy with Momentum Swing II(Exalted Cleave reset CD of MS III like cleave feat?).


New Build
8/6/6 Fighter/Paladin/Monk
Lawful Good Purple Dragon Knight


Level Order

1. Fighter         6. Paladin        11. Monk           16. Fighter
2. Monk            7. Paladin        12. Monk           17. Fighter
3. Monk            8. Paladin        13. Monk           18. Fighter
4. Paladin         9. Fighter        14. Monk           19. Fighter
5. Paladin        10. Fighter        15. Fighter        20. Paladin



Stats
               36pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     --------
Strength        18       +4       4: STR
Dexterity       12       +4       8: STR
Constitution    16       +4      12: STR
Intelligence     8       +4      16: STR
Wisdom           8       +4      20: STR
Charisma        14       +4      24: STR
                                 28: STR


Skills
UMD-Heal


Feats

1        : Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning
1 PDK    : Weapon Focus: Piercing
1 Fighter: Weapon Focus: Slashing
2 Monk   : Two Handed Fighting
3        : Completionist OR Force of Personality
3 Monk   : Power Attack
4 Deity  : Follower of: Silvanus
6        : Cleave OR Stunning Blow OR Child of: Silvanus
9        : Improved Critical: Bludgeoning
9 Fighter: Improved Two Handed Fighting
11 Monk   : Path of Harmonious Balance
12        : Greater Two Handed Fighting
14 Monk   : Dodge OR Deflect Arrows
15        : Master of Forms
15 Fighter: Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning
17 Fighter: Weapon Specialization: Slashing
18        : Grandmaster of Forms
19 Fighter: Greater Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning
20 Deity  : Blessing of Silvanus
21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic   : Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
27 Epic   : Weapon Specialization: Piercing
28 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
29 Destiny: Dire Charge OR Harbinger of Chaos
30 Epic   : Greater Weapon Focus: Piercing
30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea


Spells

Paladin
  • Divine Favor, Protection from Evil


  • Enhancements (80 AP)

    Kensei (32 AP)
    • Kensei Focus: Picks and Hammers, Spiritual Bond, Strike with No Thought
    • Weapon Group Specialization, Haste Boost III
    • Weapon Group Specialization, Improved Dodge I, Ascetic Training: Agility III
    • Critical Mastery III, Weapon Group Specialization, Shattering Strike I, Strength
    • Opportunity Attack, Weapon Group Specialization, Strike at the Heart, Strength
    • One with the Blade, Keen Edge

    Knight of the Chalice (16 AP)
    • Slayer of Evil, Courage of Heaven, Slayer of Evil II
    • Extra Turning III, Extra Smite I
    • Divine Might III, Exalted Cleave I
    • Strength

    Henshin Mystic (13 AP)
    • Riddle of Fire, Ki Bolt, Sounding Staff
    • Static Charge, Negotiator I, Way of the: Patient Tortoise
    • Fists of Iron, Contemplation II
    • Strength

    Ninja Spy (11 AP)
    • Basic Ninja Training, Advanced Ninja Training, Shadow Veil
    • Sneak Attack Training, Acrobatic II
    • Agility II, Sneak Attack Training

    Sacred Defender (6 AP)
    • Holy Bastion, Sacred Defense
    • Extra Lay On Hands I, Durable Defense III

    Purple Dragon Knight (1 AP)
    • Damage Boost

    Shintao (1 AP)
    • Bastion of Purity


    Destiny (24 AP)

    Legendary Dreadnought
  • Legendary Tactics III, Extra Action Boost I, Strength
  • Momentum Swing III, Imp. Power Attack
  • Lay Waste, Critical Damage III
  • (none)
  • Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
  • Master's Blitz, Pulverizer

  • Twists of Fate (35 fate points)
  • Sense Weakness (Tier 4 Fury)
  • Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)
  • Hail of Blows (Tier 2 Flowers)
  • Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
  • Dance of Flowers (Tier 1 Flowers)



  • 8F/6C/6M


    ºwhy STR DOMAIN? +2 STR and "Level 5: Your Reflex saving throws are now based on Strength instead of Dexterity, if it is higher."
    Or
    Luck Domain: +4 all saves and Luck Domain Domain to be good because "Level 5: You gain Displacement as an SLA. 10 SP, 6 second cooldown."
    º 4AP for divine miths ~ cheap
    º Jade + Iron Skin III
    º Jade or Wall of Steel+core2 (if need more Prr)
    º Maybe need swap a WF for Quickdraw because dont have  Exalted Cleave I like 6 paladin.

    New Build
    8/6/6 Fighter/Cleric/Monk
    Lawful Good Purple Dragon Knight


    Level Order

    1. Fighter         6. Monk           11. Fighter        16. Fighter
    2. Cleric          7. Monk           12. Fighter        17. Fighter
    3. Cleric          8. Monk           13. Fighter        18. Cleric
    4. Cleric          9. Monk           14. Fighter        19. Cleric
    5. Monk           10. Monk           15. Fighter        20. Cleric



    Stats
                   36pt     Tome     Level Up
                   ----     ----     --------
    Strength        18       +4       4: STR
    Dexterity       12       +4       8: STR
    Constitution    16       +4      12: STR
    Intelligence     8       +4      16: STR
    Wisdom           8       +4      20: STR
    Charisma        14       +4      24: STR
                                     28: STR


    Skills
    HEAL-UMD-CONC[/font]


    Feats

    1        : Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning
    1 PDK    : Weapon Focus: Piercing
    1 Fighter: Weapon Focus: Slashing
    2 Deity  : Follower of: Silvanus
    3        : Completionist OR Force of Personality
    3 Cleric : Strength Domain
    5 Monk   : Two Handed Fighting
    6        : Cleave OR Stunning Blow OR Child of: Silvanus
    6 Monk   : Power Attack
    7 Monk   : Path of Harmonious Balance
    9        : Improved Two Handed Fighting
    10 Monk   : Dodge OR Deflect Arrows
    11 Fighter: Improved Critical: Bludgeoning
    12        : Master of Forms
    13 Fighter: Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning
    15        : Greater Two Handed Fighting
    15 Fighter: Weapon Specialization: Piercing
    17 Fighter: Greater Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning
    18        : Grandmaster of Forms
    20 Deity  : Blessing of Silvanus
    21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
    24 Epic   : Weapon Specialization: Slashing
    26 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
    27 Epic   : Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing
    28 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    29 Destiny: Dire Charge OR Harbinger of Chaos
    30 Epic   : Greater Weapon Focus: Piercing
    30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea


    Spells

    Cleric
  • Cure Light Wounds, Nightshield, Protection from Evil, Remove Fear, Divine Favor
  • Cure Moderate Wounds, Lesser Restoration, Remove Paralysis, Aid, Resist Energy
  • Cure Serious Wounds, Remove Disease, Remove Curse, Remove Blindness


  • Enhancements (80 AP)

    Kensei (32 AP)
    • Kensei Focus: Picks and Hammers, Spiritual Bond, Strike with No Thought
    • Weapon Group Specialization, Haste Boost III
    • Weapon Group Specialization, Improved Dodge I, Ascetic Training: Agility III
    • Critical Mastery III, Weapon Group Specialization, Shattering Strike I, Strength
    • Opportunity Attack, Weapon Group Specialization, Strike at the Heart, Strength
    • One with the Blade, Keen Edge

    Henshin Mystic (13 AP)
    • Riddle of Fire, Ki Bolt, Sounding Staff
    • Static Charge, Negotiator I, Way of the: Patient Tortoise
    • Fists of Iron, Contemplation II
    • Strength

    Shintao (13 AP)
    • Bastion of Purity, Protection from Tainted Creatures
    • Restoring the Balance, Ki Shout, Exemplar I
    • Smite Tainted Creature, Iron Skin III
    • Jade Strike

    Ninja Spy (11 AP)
    • Basic Ninja Training, Advanced Ninja Training, Shadow Veil
    • Sneak Attack Training, Acrobatic II
    • Agility II, Sneak Attack Training

    Stalwart Defender (6 AP)
    • Toughness, Stalwart Defense
    • Item Defense I, Durable Defense III

    Warpriest (4 AP)
    • Smite Foe
    • Divine Might III

    Purple Dragon Knight (1 AP)
    • Damage Boost


    Destiny (24 AP)

    Legendary Dreadnought
  • Legendary Tactics III, Extra Action Boost I, Strength
  • Momentum Swing III, Imp. Power Attack
  • Lay Waste, Critical Damage III
  • (none)
  • Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
  • Master's Blitz, Pulverizer

  • Twists of Fate (35 fate points)
  • Sense Weakness (Tier 4 Fury)
  • Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)
  • Hail of Blows (Tier 2 Flowers)
  • Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
  • Dance of Flowers (Tier 1 Flowers)

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    Re: U33 Maul Pally
    Reply #76 - Oct 28th, 2017 at 9:59am
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    I'm thinking 14 Cleric/6 Fighter PDK Animal Domain will be my next maul build. Unfortunately, I have no need for PDK lives.

    Hang on, is Aasimar Scourge in FR or Eberron?
      

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    Re: U33 Maul Pally
    Reply #77 - Oct 28th, 2017 at 4:21pm
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    Re: U33 Maul Pally
    Reply #78 - Oct 29th, 2017 at 2:37pm
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    That could work then. Scourge instead of PDK. The ranger level is almost worthless and prevents you from getting the lvl 14 domain ability though, so I'll have to LR+1.
      

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    Re: U33 Maul Pally
    Reply #79 - Nov 6th, 2017 at 9:48pm
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    So, building on FFS's comment about 14 cleric/6 Ftr gave me a thought. 

    Check me on this build.  I'm sure I'm missing something.  But if I'm not, it should gain the same dmg as the pure pally build (minus 5d6 light dmg from KotC cores) with holy sword from taking War domain as cleric, but pick up MUCH better self & group healing with Heal. 

    Gear would be pretty much from the original post.

    I played with the feats just a bit, too, dropping weapon focus & child of Silvanus to pick up empower healing & quicken.  And you could swap out elusive target for perfect THF, if you want DPS over survivability, I guess.  Not sure on that one.  Thoughts?

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    Lawful Good Purple Dragon Knight


    Level Order

    1. Fighter         6. Cleric         11. Cleric         16. Paladin
    2. Cleric          7. Cleric         12. Cleric         17. Paladin
    3. Cleric          8. Cleric         13. Cleric         18. Paladin
    4. Cleric          9. Cleric         14. Cleric         19. Paladin
    5. Cleric         10. Cleric         15. Cleric         20. Paladin



    Stats
                   36pt     Tome     Level Up
                   ----     ----     --------
    Strength        18       +6       4: STR
    Dexterity        8       +6       8: STR
    Constitution    16       +6      12: STR
    Intelligence    10       +6      16: STR
    Wisdom          10       +6      20: STR
    Charisma        14       +6      24: STR
                                     28: STR


    Skills
    Max Heal, Spellcraft

    Feats

    1        : Power Attack
    1 PDK    : Two Handed Fighting
    1 Fighter: Cleave
    3        : Quicken Spell
    6        : Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning
    9        : Improved Two Handed Fighting
    12        : Improved Critical: Bludgeoning
    15        : Greater Two Handed Fighting
    18        : Weapon Focus: Slashing
    21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
    24 Epic   : Precision
    26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    27 Epic   : Weapon Focus: Piercing
    28 Destiny: Elusive Target OR Perfect THF
    29 Destiny: Dire Charge
    30 Epic   : Empower Healing Spell
    30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea

    3 Cleric : War Domain

    2 Deity  : Follower of: Silvanus
    7 Deity  : Blessing of Silvanus


    Spells

    Cleric
    • Mass Cure Moderate Wounds, Heal, Blade Barrier, Cometfall, Heroes' Feast
    • Mass Cure Serious Wounds, Greater Restoration, Resurrection, Mass Spell Resistance


    Enhancements (80 AP)

    Knight of the Chalice (39 AP)
    • Slayer of Evil, Courage of Heaven
      • Extra Smite II, Attack Boost II
      • Exalted Cleave III, Melee Power Boost II
      • Vigor of Life, Exalted Smite III, Strength
      • Censure Demons, Vigor of Life, Empowered Smite, Strength
      • Censure Outsiders, Holy Retribution III, Vigor of Life, Avenging Cleave III

    Sacred Defender (27 AP)
    • Holy Bastion, Sacred Defense
      • Item Defense III, Extra Lay On Hands I, Durable Defense III, Sacred Armor Mastery III
      • Bulwark Aura III
      • Tenacious Defense III, Constitution
      • Reinforced Armor III, Swift Defense, Strong Defense III

    Warpriest (11 AP)
    • Smite Foe, Resilience of Battle
      • Divine Might III, Toughness III
      • Wall of Steel III

    Purple Dragon Knight (3 AP)
    • Damage Boost
      • Improved Recovery


    Destiny (24 AP)

    Legendary Dreadnought
    • Extra Action Boost III, Strength
    • Momentum Swing III, Imp. Power Attack, Strength
    • Lay Waste, Strength
    • (none)
    • Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
    • Master's Blitz, Pulverizer

    Twists of Fate (35 fate points)
    • Sense Weakness (Tier 4 Fury)
    • Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)
    • Hail of Blows (Tier 2 Flowers)
    • Primal Scream (Tier 1 Fury)
    • Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)

      
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    Re: U33 Maul Pally
    Reply #80 - Nov 7th, 2017 at 11:32am
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    It's not bad. I think Kensei tree > KotC tree, but whatever.

    I wouldn't bother with precision if you're doing PA + LD though.

    Also you probably want to consider twisting Endless Smiting and/or Endless Turning since your smite pool is going to be low.
      

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