For my rogue life I plan on taking it easy and going with a repeater build, I'm still in two minds about the level split. Pure rogue gives me the mechanic capstone (not all that impressive) a 1d6 extra sneak damage and (i believe, don't have access to the wiki at work) another special rogue feat.

Going 18 rogue 2 arti would give me runearm use (damage and a stattstick) and rapid reload which i'd probably have to pick up anyway. Of course I could drop to 12 rogue and get the repeated crit Multi from gnome enhancement but that would make me lose another feat.

Which level/AP split would you all recommend for a good build? (doesn't have to be geared for LE but higher level EE would be preferrable).

For heroic feats i'm thinking i need atleast

-Precision
-Precise shot
-Rapid reload
-Point blank shot
-icrit ranged
-improved precise shot
-Rapid Shot (thanks Mokune)

Am i missing/overvaluing any feats?

Both bulds suck.  Go assassin or kill yourself.

[] wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 8:50am:


Is "ass ass in" something you scream on a regular basis?

5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 12:40pm:


That build looks like exactly what I was looking for. Thanks 5foot.

The benefits of the Mech capstone are too big to throw away for the considerable things 2 levs of Arty give you. The hip flask plus the passive +2 Dexterity and Intelligence, +1 to hit with all crossbows, +1 damage with all repeating crossbows, +2 damage with non-repeating crossbows, +2 Sneak Attack dice and +2 to hit when performing Sneak Attacks and too good. At epic levs when you should have at least 9 charges and the 60 second running time.

Capped Mech never runs out of bolts with fletching, not to mention having proper bolts for the occasion is a lot easier now that bolts are looted in stacks of 100, with fletching that 100 will last several combats. Breaking DR, extra damage from holy etc... the ammo aspect of fletching is one of the biggest strengths of Mechs, beats the pants off arty summoned bolts.

I like the runearm for sure but the cap will make most of that up, it's good to have the extra slots as well but with the sets and slots available now you can make do. 

Digimonk wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 11:46am:


Hmm I do still need 3 shadar kai PL's so the iconic variant is worth considering. What I've read is that the imbues work with repeaters so i'll assume that works. In your opinion, how's the DPS compare to an 18/2 or 20 variant?

Also does anyone know if the rogue special ability that grants doublestrike and 10% fort bypass apply the fort bypass to ranged attacks? Many of the rogue special abilities don't seem too appealing for an int based arti,

Bushin wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 5:37am:

A pure rogue or an 18/2 variant is more DPS than the 8/6/6 version but from personal experience, I know the 8/6/6 version does does fine in EE and LE.  The combination of damage from base, SA and elemental/force imbues is nice and provides a fairly consistent level of DPS output across most situations.  Sniper Shot is strong and always useful.

Also, as you mentioned, the 8 x, 6 ranger, 6 rogue makes for a nice PL farming template.  You give up bolt summoning and runearms but as was mentioned earlier in this thread, it's not that big a deal once you have the Fletching enhancement.  In heroics, elemental imbues are repeaters fairly overpowered, especially if you maintain level-appropriate spellpower.

RemRemi wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 12:39pm:


The damage is about the same. Arti QoL is more than just conjure bolts though.

Damage wise, it's 2d6+3 plus scaling and a 2d6 boost vs 2d10 non scaling and 6 ranged power,...if you actually bother firing the runearm you can add a few hundred damage every few seconds.

(Machination of Madness comes with 30% recharge boost and 4 ranged power, the other 2 RP is from an extra feat)

Bushin wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 3:07am:

I don't recall whether it has been posted or not.  It's fairly straightforward though.

Go Int to Hit/Dmg.  T5 Mech.  T3/T4 elemental imbues.  Enough in DWS for Sniper Shot.  The rest into SA.